What does Jesus' dual nature mean ?

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GuessWho

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I find that no analogy works well when trying to explain the Trinity. We can't full understand how God works in this capacity, but we have some idea. I think the best thing is to explain who the persons of God are, how they're three persons but one God and then their own identities and roles and their perfect relationship with each other. This can be done with a simple triangle-style diagram. But analogies, they can easily lead to false understandings and you don't want that.
I believe the analogy trinity-fire/sun is the closest one: you have the fire/sun that is: 1.)shape, 2.)light and 3.)heat. God is the cause of the Son and of the Holy Spirit yet they are all co-eternal, just like when you light a fire, the fire is the cause for light and heat, but light and heat occur at the same time with the fire. You have fire, you have light and heat.
 
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I believe the analogy trinity-fire/sun is the closest one: you have the fire/sun that is: 1.)shape, 2.)light and 3.)heat. God is the cause of the Son and of the Holy Spirit yet they are all co-eternal, just like when you light a fire, the fire is the cause for light and heat, but light and heat occur at the same time with the fire. You have fire, you have light and heat.
That's not a terrible analogy but it can still lead to false beliefs about the nature of the Trinity.
 
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I believe the analogy trinity-fire/sun is the closest one: you have the fire/sun that is: 1.)shape, 2.)light and 3.)heat. God is the cause of the Son and of the Holy Spirit yet they are all co-eternal, just like when you light a fire, the fire is the cause for light and heat, but light and heat occur at the same time with the fire. You have fire, you have light and heat.
How can Christians believe in a Trinity God?

Although the word "Trinity" is not found within the Scriptures, the word "Godhead" is used instead (Acts 17:29) (Romans 1:20) (Colossians 2:9).

The Trinity essentially means "Three in One".

A. "The Trinity in Science"
There are many examples of the Trinity within nature.

Atoms = Nucleus, Protons, Electrons.
Water Molecules = Hydrogen Atom, Hydrogen Atom, Oxygen Atom.
Colors of White Light = Red, Blue, Green.
Man's Formation = Dust, Mist (i.e. Water), Breadth of Life.
Man (Made in God's Image) = Physical Body, Spirit Body, Soul.
Time = Past, Present, Future.
Earth = Crust, Mantle, Core
3 Major Types of Light in the Sky = Sun, Moon, Stars
3 Major Winged Fowl = Birds, Mammals (Bats), Reptiles (Pterodactyl)
3 Major Values = Black, Grey, White

The Trinity, Godhead, or Triune Nature of God is simply this...

God = Father, the Son, Holy Spirit.

Oh, and despite the fact that "siamese twins" are the result of the fall of man (or sin), they do tell us that a life can be one body and yet still have two or more minds to it.

However, unlike siamese twins, just to be clear, the Lord Our God is...

One God with three distinct but connected persons acting in perfect harmony or of one mind.

B. "The Trinity and the Majority of the World's Views"
Also, the majority of your Biblical Cults and the Atheistic World do not believe Jesus was God Almighty in the flesh. In other words, if you believe Jesus is God Almighty, you believe in God's Triune Nature. That is why God made such a big deal out of being resurrected "three days" later after being crucified on the cross thru the flesh of a man. The Lord was declaring that He was not a mere man but that He was God Almighty!

C. "The Trinity in Scripture"
All you have to do is research the internet for verses that support the Trinity (or the Godhead) and you will have a long list by the time you are done.

However, personally I think the following verse below pretty much sums up the fact about God's triune nature, though:

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." ~ (1 John 5:7)

Well, I hope my answer helps you.

With loving kindness to you in Christ:

Sincerely,

~Jason.

Side Note:
In fact, if you were to study Bible Numbers, the number "Three" essentially is a reference to the Resurrection and the Trinity. If your interested, please check out this book (available to read for free) here...

http://www.hiddenhillssgbaptistchur...rvel or The Significance of Bible Numbers.pdf

Oh, and if you want to see my Complete List of the Trinity Found in Nature, please check out this link here...

Theology Online | Christian Forums & More - View Single Post - Is Trinity and Satan God’s word or pagan theology?

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Zmouth

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Colors of White Light = Red, Blue, Green.
3 Major Types of Light in the Sky = Sun, Moon, Stars
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In John it says that God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit:

In Revelation it is written in

Rev 1:4 "and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
"Rev 5:6 which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.


I believe you will find that the visible white light is formed by seven colors, not three.


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If not mistaken, I believe science has established by principle that the moon does not produce light, only reflects the invisible waves of the visible light. The two great lights of Genesis is the principle of earth's rotation whereby the which is necessary for life to exist on earth. God made visible Light of the sun on day 1. The other great light is Invisible which is why some people can look up at the stars and still not see the light.

After all is it not written in John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Since the principle holds that the light emitted from the sun illuminates half of the globe, the other half would have aboded in darkness until the the gravitation force of the sun had caused the earth to fully rotate represented by the principle of the 4 day, the made the two great lights. Night and Day .

And if the vacuum of space is produced by the rotation of the sun, which at one time was the theory for the celestial orbit but now that the Catholic science doctrines have been instituted, even if you don't agree with my interpretation they will say that we are still both wrong because God has nothing to with anything and the Bible is just a bunch of ancient myths.

It the like with the principle of eternal. It has no beginning, nor end to it existence, neither can it can it change it nature by changing form. To change nature would be like the God of truth telling a lie, but to those who believe all things are possible with God, then don't be surprised if they don't have any principles..

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In John it says that God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit:

In Revelation it is written in

Rev 1:4 "and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
"Rev 5:6 which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.


I believe you will find that the visible white light is formed by seven colors, not three.
In reference to three colors that make up white light, please check out this article here:

Museum of Science and Industry | Educator Info

As for the passage in Revelation: If you were to write this about a week ago, I would have given you an explanation that was sound on this topic. But I am not going to do that. Not because I can't do it but because I know that it wouldn't mean anything to you. For I can tell you what it actually says, but you would neither respect it, nor would you understand it (Because you reject God's Word as being true). Yet, if you want to be informed and see that God's Word is indeed true on this point in Scripture (In what it really says), then you can do your own homework and find a Biblical explanation for it (By researching various Christian Commentaries or Articles on the topic). But are you going to do that? No. I can show you Biblical evidences proving the Bible. But again. Are you truly interested in any evidences that back up the Scriptures? Again, I don't believe you are. For you are interested in tearing down God and His Holy Word. See, you are biased to your beliefs and you are not being objective and willing to at least give God the chance (By taking that step of faith like Indiana Jones did with the invisible bridge in the Last Crusade). You are trying to justify your way of life before God; But I a sorry, my friend. It's not going to work. You will one day have to face Him.

If not mistaken, I believe science has established by principle that the moon does not produce light, only reflects the invisible waves of the visible light. The two great lights of Genesis is the principle of earth's rotation whereby the which is necessary for life to exist on earth.
You are seeing problems where non exist. Nowhere did I actually say that the moon actually creates light of it's own. As a matter of fact, you would have to be a 3rd grader or have no education whatsoever to believe that the moon produces it's own light. Everyone knows the moon reflects the sun. That was not the point I made. The point I made was that there are 3 major visible light sources we can see with the naked eye in the sky. The Sun, the Moon, and the stars. How these sources give off it's light is inconsequential. The fact remains is that there are still 3 major things in the sky that put forth light.

God made visible Light of the sun on day 1.
Yeah, but you really don't believe that, though. I mean, I don't attack flat earthers for their belief. I don't waste my time trying to convince them that the Earth is not flat. The reason you are here is because you are trying to justify your life in not having God in it. However, you can accept Him any time, though.


The other great light is Invisible which is why some people can look up at the stars and still not see the light.

After all is it not written in John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Since the principle holds that the light emitted from the sun illuminates half of the globe, the other half would have aboded in darkness until the the gravitation force of the sun had caused the earth to fully rotate represented by the principle of the 4 day, the made the two great lights. Night and Day .

And if the vacuum of space is produced by the rotation of the sun, which at one time was the theory for the celestial orbit but now that the Catholic science doctrines have been instituted, even if you don't agree with my interpretation they will say that we are still both wrong because God has nothing to with anything and the Bible is just a bunch of ancient myths.

It the like with the principle of eternal. It has no beginning, nor end to it existence, neither can it can it change it nature by changing form. To change nature would be like the God of truth telling a lie, but to those who believe all things are possible with God, then don't be surprised if they don't have any principles..
This is all just presupposition. You are not an expert in the Scriptures and you have never confirmed these things in Science by direct observation. You are just guessing. Look, you either believe God and want to have Him involved in your life or you don't. It is that simple. God (Christ) loves you. He is patient. So please be patient with Him and look at the Bible as the divinely Word of God. Give the Lord a chance. For He died for you so as to save you. Don't you want to know His love, peace, and joy?
 
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Jesus is both God and human .... just that simple .... and at the same just as complex
 
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The best way that it was explained to me in my studies growing up was to look at it like this;

Water, ice, steam: All of these are made up of the same elements, but in different forms or personalities/traits.

The Godhead is different forms with their different traits and/or personalities. Just like we are all different in our personalities, looks, and traits but make up one church body.

I am sorry, but that analogy is a known heretical analogy describing modalism.
 
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Also, my understanding is that God didn't "become" anything, but was joined to a human in some way that I'm trying to figure out here.
True Attos: Phil 2:5-11 is all about the addition of a human nature to the eternal son. :)