What is a good resource to use for debating the Catholics

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Besides the Scriptures, are there any good books or online resources for bringing the Truth to the Catholics?
 

notuptome

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Why? The bible is the most complete work ever given for men to know God.

If they will not ear the word of God they will not be moved by Dr. Thumb Bumper.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Vdp

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You are wasting you time. The Catholics want nothing to do with any Truth outside of the Catholic Church.
 

Blain

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Besides the Scriptures, are there any good books or online resources for bringing the Truth to the Catholics?
Perhaps books and online sources aren't what is going to reach them, The love from your heart and the spirit within you just might though.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Stubbornness.
 

Magenta

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http://www.bible.ca/catholic-doctrine.htm






 
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For the truth.....Catholic answers.com



Pax Christi
 
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Catholic's are told to don't even touch the "Protestant Bible" (the KJ Bible, literally).
 

epostle

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There is no such thing as a "good resource for debating Catholics", but you have billions of misrepresenting sites to choose from. Some have been exposed and refuted but basically they all say the same thing as the Ku Klux Klan and other cults. None of them tell the truth about Catholicism, which makes dismantling their ridiculous assertions easy. James White is probably the best Protestant apologist going. You can find him debating Catholics on you tube or google.
 
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In all fairness Mec99, I would strongly suggest not using the web-site Magneta provided. (Massive list of Roman Catholic False doctrines) For if you were to use it in a debate with Catholics, their resources would be easily refuted.

I went to their site for a look-see and found out they condem celebrating Christmas or Easter. (see #10)
I also got a chuckle for #15. You know first hand that is a lie! :)
 

Pax Christi
 

Joidevivre

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I have led a women's group for 5 or so years, and last year two Catholics began to attend. I never debated anything with them. But in teaching the message of grace, one of them totally got it, and it changed her life. She even went to her mother with the scriptures concerning grace, and her mother was overwhelmed with this knowledge.

The truth has its own power when presented with love. We don't have to argue on points where we might differ.
 

Magenta

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In all fairness Mec99, I would strongly suggest not using the web-site Magneta provided. (Massive list of Roman Catholic False doctrines) For if you were to use it in a debate with Catholics, their resources would be easily refuted.
They use Catholic sources, and history. Thanks for acknowledging your RCC is so easily refuted.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]Pre-Roman Catholic False teachings[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]200 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Immersion of infants who are dying, but considered sinless. (Tertullian V.12)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]250 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]North Africa region is first to practice infant baptism and reduced the age of baptism from minors to all newborns. This is opposed by other regions.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]257 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Baptism by sprinkling for adults instead of immersion first used as an exception for those on sick beds, but it caused great dispute.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]300 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Prayers for the dead[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]320 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Special dress code of the clergy in worship[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]325 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]At the general council of Nice, 325, it was proposed indeed, probably by the Western bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]325 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The date for Easter was set.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]379 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Praying to Mary & Saints. (prayers of Ephraim Syrus)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]385 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]389 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Mariolatry begins with Gregory Nazianzen, who mentions in a eulogy, how Justina had besought the virgin Mary to protect her virginity.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]400 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Impossibility of apostasy or once saved always saved, (Augustine XII.9)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]416 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Infant baptism by immersion commanded of all infants (Council Of Mela, Austin was the principal director)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]430 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Exhalation of Virgin Mary: "Mother of God" first applied by the Council of Ephesus[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]502 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Special dress code of the Clergy all the time.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]500 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The "Habit" of Nuns (Black gowns with white tunics)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]519 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Lent[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]526 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Extreme Unction[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]593 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The Doctrine of Purgatory popularized from the Apocrypha by Gregory the Great[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]600 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]First use of Latin in worship (Gregory I)[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 2"]Beginning of the Orthodox/Roman Catholic church as we know it today in its present organization.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]607 AD[/TD]
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First Pope: Boniface III is the first person to take the title of "universal Bishop" by decree of Emperor Phocas.
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[TD="width: 18%"]608 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Pope Boniface IV. turns the Pantheon in Rome into a temple of Mary ad martyres: the pagan Olympus into a Christian heaven of gods.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]670 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Instrumental music: first organ by Pope Vitalian[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]709 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Kissing of Pope Constantine's feet[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]753 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Baptism by sprinkling for those on sick beds officially accepted.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]787 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Worship of icons and statue approved (2nd council of Nicea)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]787 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Rome (Latin) and Constantinople (Greek) part ways and begin the drift towards complete split, resulting in two denominations emerging in 1054 AD.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]965 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Baptism of bells instituted by Pope John XIII[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]850 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Burning of Holy Candles[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]995 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]998 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Good Friday: fish only and the eating-red meat forbidden[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1009 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Holy water[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1022 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Penance[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1054 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Roman Catholic church breaks away from the Orthodox church[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1054 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Roman Catholics officially embrace instrumental music, Orthodox reject instrumental music down to the present time.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1079 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Celibacy enforced for priests, bishops, presbyters (Pope Gregory VII)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1090 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Rosary beads: invented by Peter the Hermit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1095 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Instrumental music[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1190 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Sale of Indulgences or "tickets to sin" (punishment of sin removed)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1215 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Transubstantiation by Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1215 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Auricular Confession of sins to priests instituted by Pope Innocent III, (Lateran Council)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1215 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Mass a Sacrifice of Christ[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1217 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Adoration and Elevation of Host: ie. communion bread (Pope Honrius III)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1230 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Ringing bells at Mass[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1251 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The Scapular, the brown cloak worn by monks invented by Simon Stock[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1268 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Priestly power of absolution[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1311 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Baptism by sprinkling accepted as the universal standard instead of immersion for all, not just the sick. (Council of Ravenna)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1414 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Laity no longer offered Lord's cup at communion (Council of Constance)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1439 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Purgatory a dogma by the Council of Florence (see 593 AD)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1439 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Doctrine of Seven Sacraments affirmed[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1480 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The Inquisition (of Spain)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1495 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Papal control of marriage rights[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1534 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Order of Jesuits founded by Loyola[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1545 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Man-made tradition of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1545 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Apocryphal books added to Bible (Council of Trent)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1546 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Justification by human works of merit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1546 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Mass universally said in Latin (see 600 AD)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1547 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Confirmation[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1560 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Personal opinions of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1864 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Syllabus Errorum [Syllabus of Errors] proclaimed that "Catholic countries" could not tolerate other religions, (no freedom of religion), conscience, separation of church and State condemned, asserted the Pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers (Ratified by Pope Pius IX and Vatican Council) condemned[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1870 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1908 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]All Catholics should be christened into the church[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1930 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Public Schools condemned by Pope Pius XII (see 1864 AD)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1950 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Sinners prayer, invented by Billy Sunday and made popular by Billy Graham. (Some Catholics now use this)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1950 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly after her death. (Pope Pius XII)[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1954 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Immaculate conception of Mary proclaimed by Pope Pius XII[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1995 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]The use of girls in the traditional alter boy duties[/TD]
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[TD="width: 18%"]1996 AD[/TD]
[TD="width: 82%"]Catholics can believe in Evolution (Pope John Paul II)[/TD]
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Utah

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I have led a women's group for 5 or so years, and last year two Catholics began to attend. I never debated anything with them. But in teaching the message of grace, one of them totally got it, and it changed her life. She even went to her mother with the scriptures concerning grace, and her mother was overwhelmed with this knowledge.

The truth has its own power when presented with love. We don't have to argue on points where we might differ.
So awesome! Thank you for sharing this. :cool:
 

Utah

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Besides the Scriptures, are there any good books or online resources for bringing the Truth to the Catholics?
Common sense? No, wait, that will never work. Never mind.
 
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Honestly, if you are going to debate us. Reading the Baltimore Catechism, the Summa Theologiae, and the Canon Law and testing it against the whole of Scripture is the best way to debate us or even to use our texts against us. The issue most often is misinterpretation or ignorance in debate, from both sides.
 
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Besides the Scriptures, are there any good books or online resources for bringing the Truth to the Catholics?

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