What is demon possession???

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Demi777

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Theres a clear difference between posession and demonisation. Posession has something to do with ownership and theres 2 cases of that.
1. a person looses control of himself like the man with legion who wasnt himself anymore but completely are taken over
2. Unsaved people are owned which also oppression in ways

Demonisation is when people are saved but are influenced still by demons/evil spirits/unclean spirits in some area of life which can sometimes seem like posession depending on how much power they have over that specific area.

there ya got a short version of it :)
 
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a concordance is not or should not be anyone's go to study tool

I have done an exhaustive study on this and used far better materials and consulted with those who have done deliverance as I have actually myelf

I am by no means any sort of minister...but when these things pop up in your face, you better know how to deal

I would never consult with someone who is stuck on a meaning and says something HAS to be done a certain way

the Holy Spirit is not contained and best to develop the tools to listen to HIM

How about a lexicon?

KJV Lexicon
και conjunction
kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words
[HR][/HR]ερχονται verb - present middle or passive deponent indicative - third person
erchomai er'-khom-ahee: accompany, appear, bring, come, enter, fall out, go, grow, light, next, pass, resort, be set.
[HR][/HR]προς preposition
pros pros: a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward
[HR][/HR]τον definite article - accusative singular masculine
ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
[HR][/HR]ιησουν noun - accusative singular masculine
Iesous ee-ay-sooce': Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites -- Jesus.
[HR][/HR]και conjunction
kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words
[HR][/HR]θεωρουσιν verb - present active indicative - third person
theoreo theh-o-reh'-o: to be a spectator of, i.e. discern, (literally, figuratively (experience) or intensively (acknowledge) -- behold, consider, look on, perceive, see.
[HR][/HR]τον definite article - accusative singular masculine
ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
[HR][/HR]δαιμονιζομενον verb - present middle or passive deponent participle - accusative singular masculine
daimonizomai dahee-mon-id'-zom-ahee: to be exercised by a d?mon -- have a (be vexed with, be possessed with) devil(-s).
[HR][/HR]καθημενον verb - present middle or passive deponent participle - accusative singular masculine
kathemai kath'-ay-mahee: figuratively, to remain, reside -- dwell, sit (by, down).
[HR][/HR]και conjunction
kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words
[HR][/HR]ιματισμενον verb - perfect passive participle - accusative singular masculine
himatizo him-at-id'-zo: to dress -- clothe.
[HR][/HR]και conjunction
kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words
[HR][/HR]σωφρονουντα verb - present active participle - accusative singular masculine
sophroneo so-fron-eh'-o: to be of sound mind, i.e. sane, (figuratively) moderate -- be in right mind, be sober (minded), soberly.
[HR][/HR]τον definite article - accusative singular masculine
ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
[HR][/HR]εσχηκοτα verb - perfect active participle - accusative singular masculine
echo ekh'-o: (used in certain tenses only) a primary verb; to hold
[HR][/HR]τον definite article - accusative singular masculine
ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
[HR][/HR]λεγεωνα noun - accusative singular masculine
legeon leg-eh-ohn': a legion, i.e. Roman regiment (figuratively) -- legion.
[HR][/HR]και conjunction
kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words
[HR][/HR]εφοβηθησαν verb - aorist passive deponent indicative - third person
phobeo fob-eh'-o: to frighten, i.e. (passively) to be alarmed; by analogy, to be in awe of, i.e. revere -- be (+ sore) afraid, fear (exceedingly), reverence.

What about parallel Bibles?

Parallel Verses
New American Standard Bible
They came to Jesus and observed the man who had been demon-possessed sitting down, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the "legion"; and they became frightened.

King James Bible
And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
They came to Jesus and saw the man who had been demon-possessed by the legion, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid.

International Standard Version
When they came to Jesus and saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there dressed and in his right mind, they were frightened.

NET Bible
They came to Jesus and saw the demon-possessed man sitting there, clothed and in his right mind--the one who had the "Legion"--and they were afraid.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they came to Yeshua and they saw him who had been possessed by the evil spirits with him, clothed and reverent, and he who before had the Legion in him was sitting, and they were afraid.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
They came to Jesus and saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons. The man was sitting there dressed and in his right mind. The people were frightened.
 

CS1

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#64
How can you tell if someone is demon possessed or not?
there are a lot of ideals of what it is in the bible it appears to be someone under full control by an evil spirit. were the persons will is not able to over come the will of the evil spirit and need to be delivered this can happen long term of short term there is a reason why they call a person under the influence of a drug I would
suggest if you want to see what is a graphic form of it. this is not for the weak of heart search "spice " and " flakk" . this is a very very telling example. those on this drug smash cars MOVING ones with their body . extreme strength. Again if you are not of age please see your parents before watching this.
 

HEIsRiSen

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Anybody ever drank spirits until they blacked-out? That is a true form of possession I believe in my heart.
 
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a concordance is not or should not be anyone's go to study tool

I have done an exhaustive study on this and used far better materials and consulted with those who have done deliverance as I have actually myelf

I am by no means any sort of minister...but when these things pop up in your face, you better know how to deal

I would never consult with someone who is stuck on a meaning and says something HAS to be done a certain way

the Holy Spirit is not contained and best to develop the tools to listen to HIM
I've been waiting on your reply with your "better materials".
 
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Ariel82

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2011....still wondering why this thread got pulled back up.
 

Blain

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Interesting thing is that there are rules in the spiritual realm unbreakable ones and one of them is that a spirit cannot simply take residence in someone it has to be invited. Now some don't consider demons to be spirits so they say a demon can take you without permission however this isn't true either a demon only needs a door opened it doesn't exactly need permission.

Some people do ouja boards and I tried it once myself luckily I was protected but back then before I was a Christian I was fascinated bu Ghosts and the supernatural and I don't know how I didn't open a door for a spirit to take over me but speaking to the dead is forbidden in the bible for a reason it opens a door that you don't want open and you may never be able to close it.

It's not normally lt isn't the devil himself that possesses people but challenging the devil may tempt him or at least make him oppress you. I actually had a dream a few days ago of being oppressed by demon it was so real that I didn't know if I was dreaming or not but in that I yet again was a witness to the power of the name Jesus Christ. Demons oppress people but for some reason they seem to do this more so to people who are should we say spiritually sensitive, I know that I never encountered demons before I became a Christian but I am not basing this theory on my own experiences the only time I ever even hear of demons oppressing people are ones who are sensitive to the spiritual
 

umzza

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What the heck! LOL who pulled up my old thread. I was like 14 then lol.
 
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Interesting thing is that there are rules in the spiritual realm unbreakable ones and one of them is that a spirit cannot simply take residence in someone it has to be invited.
There's no such rule. There have been all kinds of people possessed that had no clue nor invited a spirit to possess them.
For instance, the Jewish boy that kept throwing himself into the fire & water..... Jesus said "How long has he been like this?" the dad said, "Since a child." Do you think a Jewish child "asked" or "invited" a demon to possess him?