What is the "unpardonable" sin?

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To avoid confusion. Look at this way. Jesus says there is only ONE unpardonable sin. So if the ONE was saying Jesus has a demon, then if you didnt say or believe Jesus had a demon but rejected the Gospel, and receive Him, and live a complete sinful life, you would be forgiven because you didn't commit the ONE sin!

How could someone reject Jesus and still be saved?

This is why all unsaved will have committed the unpardonable sin.

Any sin is unpardonable if one rejects the LORD Jesus Christ and His Atonement for ones sins.... stealing a cookie from your moms cookie jar is enough..


But Jesus was talking about a sin that Never will be forgiven and this is why Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is different from all other sins..

As has been said before a sinner who for a time even disbelieved in Jesus can later in their lives finally come to repentance and Trust in the LORD Jesus and end up being saved...

Those that die holding onto their rejection of Gods salvation will be condemned not because they committed the unpardonable sin but because they have rejected the Love of The truth of Gods Atonement that would have seen them forgiven all their sins..

 

[PennEd]

Then by definition there is more than ONE unpardonable sin!

Further, Scripture says they were in DANGER of eternal damnation. If it was a done deal, they wouldn't be in danger it would be automatic. If they repented of saying Jesus had a demon, they would have been forgiven.

 

[MichaelOwen]

Then by definition there is more than ONE unpardonable sin!

Further, Scripture says they were in DANGER of eternal damnation. If it was a done deal, they wouldn't be in danger it would be automatic. If they repented of saying Jesus had a demon, they would have been forgiven.

Agreed, remember, Jesus was speaking in terms of the physical realm, not on the spiritual level, though this ties in to the spiritual level. If they had kept that criticism of Him their entire lives WITHOUT repenting for it in their fleshly form, the physical form, and did not ACCEPT Him, then that danger would be real, and everlasting, with no hope. That's where Jesus means blaspheming the Holy Spirit. If a person goes their entire lives with the knocking of the Holy Spirit at their heart after hearing the word being preached to them and their eyes opened, and they reject it in not only their mind but their heart and die, that is the unpardonable sin. That's Jesus' warning to all of those living.

 

[EarsToHear]

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Jesus is telling you that all manner of sin is forgivable, except the sin committed by elect of God when he refuses to allow the Holy Spirit of God to speak through him when he is delivered up in the time of the end. This sin is spoken of in Mark 13:11; "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought before hand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye, for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost."

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost [Spirit] it shall not be forgiven.

Jesus is saying that even though you deny Him, in time, through the Millennium age, there can be forgiveness. So get it straight from the beginning: "But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven." The Son of man is Jesus Christ our Lord. This is talking about God in the flesh (anthropos), before men in their flesh bodies. While God was in the flesh, you could talk against Him, and upon repentance, you would be forgiven. When Jesus ascended into heaven on the fiftieth day after His resurrection, God the Father sent the Comforter, the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was sent for a special reason, and that was to open your eyes to the truth and guide you in your path through life.

So after your spiritual eyes have been open to the truth, and you have tasted of the truth of God Word with understanding, and then you blaspheme the Holy Spirit then that is unforgivable. So what this is saying, is that not everyone can commit this unforgivable sin.

Why?

Because only God's elect can commit this sin.

 

[MarcR]

In context, Jesus said that blasphemy against Himself could be pardoned but Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit could not.

Blasphemy is inherently a matter of one's speech not one's belief! Attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan or demons; or attributing the work of demons or Satan to the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin.

Persistent unbelief is not good for anyone; but up until a person dies, he or she is still able to turn from unbelief and accept Salvation.

 

[star]

No, I think you did a pretty good job actually. God has given each of us a measure of faith. If we hear the Gospel, and reject it, there is no other sacrifice that will clear us of our sin debt we owe, which is eternal death.

Everyone who rejects Christ has blasphemed the Holy Spirit. He has worked in their life, through various means, to bring them to Jesus. At some point, their hearts are hardened to the Gospel message through continuous rejection. That's why REJECTING Him is the only unforgivable sin.

Well you explained better than I did. But to me if all of our sins are forgiven when we accept Jesus Christ, repent and are saved, this explanation is the only one which makes sense to me.

 

[PennEd]

In context, Jesus said that blasphemy against Himself could be pardoned but Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit could not.

Blasphemy is inherently a matter of one's speech not one's belief! Attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan or demons; or attributing the work of demons or Satan to the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin.

Persistent unbelief is not good for anyone; but up until a person dies, he or she is still able to turn from unbelief and accept Salvation.

Well first off if it was just about what they said, then they DID blaspheme Jesus not the Holy Spirit. It was Him whom they spoke to. Are you suggesting that if one of the Pharisees there went to Jesus and asked forgiveness for saying that, Jesus would have rejected him?

Or are you saying at that point where the declaration was made God hardened their hearts so that they would never believe?

We have to be careful with this issue. I have seen too many to count instances just HERE, where a member has called another member's work and doctrine satanic. Are we saying those people committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

And why do we have to avoid the point that EVERY sin will be forgiven, which under your understanding has to include unbelief?

1. unpardonable sin of saying Jesus has a demon. LOST forever.

2. unpardonable sin of unbelief in who Jesus is and what He has done. LOST forever

That is 2 unpardonable sins, yet Jesus says there is only one.

 

[trofimus]

Well first off if it was just about what they said, then they DID blaspheme Jesus not the Holy Spirit. It was Him whom they spoke to. Are you suggesting that if one of the Pharisees there went to Jesus and asked forgiveness for saying that, Jesus would have rejected him?

Or are you saying at that point where the declaration was made God hardened their hearts so that they would never believe?

We have to be careful with this issue. I have seen too many to count instances just HERE, where a member has called another member's work and doctrine satanic. Are we saying those people committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

And why do we have to avoid the point that EVERY sin will be forgiven, which under your understanding has to include unbelief?

1. unpardonable sin of saying Jesus has a demon. LOST forever.

2. unpardonable sin of unbelief in who Jesus is and what He has done. LOST forever

That is 2 unpardonable sins, yet Jesus says there is only one.

Or the ones saying that Jesus had an impure spirit had never come to faith and therefore had never been forgiven. (God was hardening them).

There are various possibilities.

 

[Nessuno]

It makes sense, to me at least, that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is about denying the working of the Holy Spirit as it convicts us and rejecting its conviction of our sin and need of God. Once more I struggle with adequate words to explain my belief but here it is anyway.

I will offer my opinion as it differs from the standard "religionist" one.

It is not about a specific sin. It is about motive. There is a difference between sinning in ignorance and willful disregard or violation.

Example: When God established man in the Garden and determined his purpose and set standards and boundaries for what He created, not only did he have the sole right to do so, it was perfect. In other words- no other being had any right to alter or change what God set in motion. Since there was no misunderstanding of God's purpose here, by Satan/Adam/Eve, their sin would be unforgivable due to that fact. They purposely acted against God's spirit. They insisted on establishing THEIR own will in place of God without reservation. What excuse or sacrifice could rightly be offered for such ones?

If anyone stands in wilful opposition to God's purposes with full understanding of their actions, and actively works against his spirit in doing so, what more can be done for them?

 

[star]

I will offer my opinion as it differs from the standard "religionist" one.

It is not about a specific sin. It is about motive. There is a difference between sinning in ignorance and willful disregard or violation.

Example: When God established man in the Garden and determined his purpose and set standards and boundaries for what He created, not only did he have the sole right to do so, it was perfect. In other words- no other being had any right to alter or change what God set in motion. Since there was no misunderstanding of God's purpose here, by Satan/Adam/Eve, their sin would be unforgivable due to that fact. They purposely acted against God's spirit. They insisted on establishing THEIR own will in place of God without reservation. What excuse or sacrifice could rightly be offered for such ones?

If anyone stands in wilful opposition to God's purposes with full understanding of their actions, and actively works against his spirit in doing so, what more can be done for them?

An interesting observation.

However, whenever we humans stand in opposition to God's plan/purpose, we reap the consequences for sure. But, to me, if we turn and repent - we are forgiven. At least that is how I see it.

 

[Enow]

If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?

I believe that since that is the only sin that the Holy Spirit need to convict any sinner by.

John 16:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.[SUP] 8 [/SUP]And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:[SUP] 9 [/SUP]Of sin, because they believe not on me;[SUP]10 [/SUP]Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;[SUP]11 [/SUP]Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Those who do not believe are already condemned and so that is the sin the Holy Spirit will convict of is the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ for they could have been saved by believing in Him.

John 3:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If any one thinks a believer can commit that kind of sin against the Holy Spirit, and be condemned as they will not be forgiven for it, then Jesus words would have been broken in John 3:18 as well as the one below.

John 6:[SUP]39 [/SUP]And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.[SUP] 40 [/SUP]And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

However, there is a sin unto death; as in physical death absent of the consequence of eternal separation from God. There is a risk of eternal condemnation by being rejected to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House and instead be received as a vessel unto dishonor in His House. No one received as a vessel unto dishonor can ever change from that eternal state into becoming that vessel unto honor for after death, comes judgment.

But any sin can be forgiven except the sin of unbelief.

Former believers are still saved because He still abides ( 2 Timothy 2:10-13 ), but they are still called to depart from iniquity so they can be received as a vessel unto honor in His House too ( 2 Timothy 2:18-21 )

I digress. I agree with you.

 

[Grandpa]

This is confusing because we try to separate the work of the Holy Spirit from the work of Christ.

The Holy Spirit causes us to see the work of Christ and the work of Christ causes us to see the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

If you take either one out of our lives then Salvation is impossible.

 

[star]

This is confusing because we try to separate the work of the Holy Spirit from the work of Christ.

The Holy Spirit causes us to see the work of Christ and the work of Christ causes us to see the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.



If you take either one out of our lives then Salvation is impossible.

I see no separation between Christ's work and the Holy Spirit. Of course, I believe in the Trinity. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. But no matter, I do not see the confusion nor do I see where either the work of Christ nor the Holy Spirit has been cancelled out.

 

[Grandpa]

I see no separation between Christ's work and the Holy Spirit. Of course, I believe in the Trinity. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. But no matter, I do not see the confusion nor do I see where either the work of Christ nor the Holy Spirit has been cancelled out.

The Holy Spirit did not get crucified, the Lord Jesus Christ did.

The Holy Spirit did not rise the 3rd day, the Lord Jesus Christ did.

The Holy Spirit causes us to see that it is by Christs Work that we are saved.

 

[polychoroprene]

hmm, okay, all these discussion sparks one question in me, how do we know if we've done this unpardonable sin? can we examine our selves for this?
I've seen believers in time of tribulation becomes frustrated from waiting GOD's intervention that never comes, and in frustration, they curse God..."GOD, you (put body parts or animal names here)...." you get the idea. is that unpardonable sin? remember, this is done by believers, that already accepted Jesus as Son of GOD and savior

 

[Enow]

hmm, okay, all these discussion sparks one question in me, how do we know if we've done this unpardonable sin? can we examine our selves for this?
I've seen believers in time of tribulation becomes frustrated from waiting GOD's intervention that never comes, and in frustration, they curse God..."GOD, you (put body parts or animal names here)...." you get the idea. is that unpardonable sin? remember, this is done by believers, that already accepted Jesus as Son of GOD and savior

A believer can take comfort in the assurance below that they have not committed the unpardonable sin.

John 3:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

[Mercy4u]

If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?

I do not believe that there is a unpardonable sin today. Salvation is open for all till their last breath. No one is excluded from salvation "at some point" in their life. The chance to believe and be saved is open for all as long as we are alive.

The blasphemy of the Spirit cannot be duplicated today. The blasphemy of the Spirit was being face to face with the Lord Jesus Christ and personally attributing His works to satan.

Matt 12
23 All the crowds were amazed, and were saying, “This man cannot be the aSon of David, can he?”
24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “This man acasts out demons only by 1Beelzebul the ruler of the demons.”

The gospel is equal privilege, equal opportunity to all in todays Church.

John 7:37

New American Standard Bible
Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.


Notice Christ does not say, " if anyone, other than those who have committed the unpardonable sin, is thirsty, let Him come to me and drink."

And "thirsty" is analogous to equal privilege, equal opportunity to all. Everyone gets thirsty, and everyone must drink to stay alive. It is not the drinking that has the merit,anyone can drink. It is the object(water/Christ) that has the merit.

 

[gdyloves]

If I understand scripture correctly, there is only one unpardonable sin. The sin of unbelief. I can be wrong of course. What say you?

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the sin that will not be forgiven.

 

[gdyloves]

And why do we have to avoid the point that EVERY sin will be forgiven, which under your understanding has to include unbelief?

1. unpardonable sin of saying Jesus has a demon. LOST forever.

2. unpardonable sin of unbelief in who Jesus is and what He has done. LOST forever

That is 2 unpardonable sins, yet Jesus says there is only one.

Where in scripture does it state this?

 

[star]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the sin that will not be forgiven.

I agree. Now to carry it further, what would be blasphemy against the HS?