What keeps us from experiencing the full fruits of the spirit?
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There are a few, but the end result is sin...
1. Self
2. Sin
3. Lack of study
4. Lack of faith
5. Inability to endure testing, trials and mature in the process
6. Lack of Salvation
7. Incorrect Theology
8. Fulfilling the desires of the flesh
9. Being an enemy in the mind by wicked works
10. Loving the world and the things of the world
etc............
1. Self
2. Sin
3. Lack of study
4. Lack of faith
5. Inability to endure testing, trials and mature in the process
6. Lack of Salvation
7. Incorrect Theology
8. Fulfilling the desires of the flesh
9. Being an enemy in the mind by wicked works
10. Loving the world and the things of the world
etc............
QUOTE FROM REDTENT:
Galatians 5:22-23 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
This is what God gives us freely, yet none of us experience the fullness of all of these fruits. What do you think is the barrier between us using all the fruits of the spirit to manage our everyday problems and life?
END QUOTE:
Not having the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit............focus on Sanctification.............
Galatians 5:22-23 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
This is what God gives us freely, yet none of us experience the fullness of all of these fruits. What do you think is the barrier between us using all the fruits of the spirit to manage our everyday problems and life?
END QUOTE:
Not having the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit............focus on Sanctification.............
I hadn't thought of sanctification! I think we are given the Holy Spirit as soon as we accept Christ in our life and understand what that means.
Accepting our sanctification is something else. Both the OT and NT show the same God with the same principles, but the OT tells more of how we obey with our physical doing, and the NT tells more of how we obey with out spirit and faith. Both testaments point out that both are necessary.
So OT sanctification points to not mingling with those not of the Lord so we aren't tempted to join in that kind of life. It tells of how to keep ourselves separate. The NT tells us to act through the Holy Spirit, and to put on Christ so our actions are from our heart. Both say not to join the world, but to join Christ in all our thoughts, mind, and soul.
It is quite a thought!!
Accepting our sanctification is something else. Both the OT and NT show the same God with the same principles, but the OT tells more of how we obey with our physical doing, and the NT tells more of how we obey with out spirit and faith. Both testaments point out that both are necessary.
So OT sanctification points to not mingling with those not of the Lord so we aren't tempted to join in that kind of life. It tells of how to keep ourselves separate. The NT tells us to act through the Holy Spirit, and to put on Christ so our actions are from our heart. Both say not to join the world, but to join Christ in all our thoughts, mind, and soul.
It is quite a thought!!
O foolish Galatians, who did bewitch you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was openly set forth crucified? This only would I learn from you. Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now perfected in the flesh?
(Gal 3:1-3)
(Gal 3:1-3)
There is a difference of opinion about what "in the flesh" means in scripture. Some say that it means anything we do physically. Scripture seems to point to that it means what our worldly sinful self does, for we are told that if we have faith we will follow through with works. Those works would have to be done with our deeds. Also, that when Christ comes again he will judge us by our deeds.
We are told that if we obey law without also obeying in the spirit, it is as if we don't obey law. Law can only be obeyed with spirit, truth, and love to be effective. But the way I understand it, it also requires our actually doing the physical obedience, too. If we see someone starving, we are to feed them, not only through love of the Lord and because we have the Holy Ghost within us, but the starving person also has to be actually physically fed.
We are told that if we obey law without also obeying in the spirit, it is as if we don't obey law. Law can only be obeyed with spirit, truth, and love to be effective. But the way I understand it, it also requires our actually doing the physical obedience, too. If we see someone starving, we are to feed them, not only through love of the Lord and because we have the Holy Ghost within us, but the starving person also has to be actually physically fed.
I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me: and that life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith which is in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me.
(Gal 2:20)
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies through his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
What do you think?
(Gal 2:20)
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelleth in you, he that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall give life also to your mortal bodies through his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
What do you think?
Why do we even think we have STARTED with these spiritual fruit? Who of here has ANY of these fruit? RedTent you ask why can we not experience th FULNESS of the fruit? Well there is only ONE reason. God is NOT in us! If God is in a person there is ONLY these fruit, and 30 60 or even 100 fold.
I ask this..... Can a man that has God in him even lack ONE LITTLE BIT OF THESE FRUIT? No! The answer is NO! And if you lack ANY of these God is not in you! Not at all! These fruit is what makes a TREE bear GOOD FRUIT. If the tree bears no fruit it is CHOPPED OUT!!!! And if it does bear fruit it is either GOOD or BAD!
These halfway Christians is NO CHRISTIANS. These half-way BORN of God is NO BORN OF GOD. There is no HALF measures with God. NONE! You cannot have some bad fruit (sin) and some GOOD fruit what we are discussing here. A fountain has EITHER good or bad water.
People that bear these fruits of the Spirit bear ONLY these fruit. NO OTHER. So I believe as the WORD teaches.... IF God did not REMOVE your stony heart (bad tree, bad spring, sinning heart) and replaced it with the GOOD FLESHLY heart (His holy heart and non sinning heart) then there is none of these fruit in you. A Stony heart CANNOT produce these fruit. NEVER. And God's fleshy heart CANNOT NOT produce these fruit in FULL....
Look here wht God does with the saints... He brings them to the measure of Christ Jesus HIMSELF for them to bear this fruit....And he does it by giving them a NEW heart and a NEW Spirit to be PERFECT! Only perfect people can produce these fruit. NO OTHER....
Ezek 36:26 and 27.... A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
This DO THEM is the fruit of the Spirit! WOW!!!!!
Eph 4....Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Not ONE imperfect man is in the fulness of Christ. And all to the fulness of Christ is PERFET MEN... And ONLY they can have the NEW HEART AND THE NEW SPIRIT....
I ask this..... Can a man that has God in him even lack ONE LITTLE BIT OF THESE FRUIT? No! The answer is NO! And if you lack ANY of these God is not in you! Not at all! These fruit is what makes a TREE bear GOOD FRUIT. If the tree bears no fruit it is CHOPPED OUT!!!! And if it does bear fruit it is either GOOD or BAD!
These halfway Christians is NO CHRISTIANS. These half-way BORN of God is NO BORN OF GOD. There is no HALF measures with God. NONE! You cannot have some bad fruit (sin) and some GOOD fruit what we are discussing here. A fountain has EITHER good or bad water.
People that bear these fruits of the Spirit bear ONLY these fruit. NO OTHER. So I believe as the WORD teaches.... IF God did not REMOVE your stony heart (bad tree, bad spring, sinning heart) and replaced it with the GOOD FLESHLY heart (His holy heart and non sinning heart) then there is none of these fruit in you. A Stony heart CANNOT produce these fruit. NEVER. And God's fleshy heart CANNOT NOT produce these fruit in FULL....
Look here wht God does with the saints... He brings them to the measure of Christ Jesus HIMSELF for them to bear this fruit....And he does it by giving them a NEW heart and a NEW Spirit to be PERFECT! Only perfect people can produce these fruit. NO OTHER....
Ezek 36:26 and 27.... A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
This DO THEM is the fruit of the Spirit! WOW!!!!!
Eph 4....Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Not ONE imperfect man is in the fulness of Christ. And all to the fulness of Christ is PERFET MEN... And ONLY they can have the NEW HEART AND THE NEW SPIRIT....
Cobus
For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit: to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healings, in the one Spirit; and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will.
(1Co 12:8-11)
It's piecemeal as He wills.
For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit: to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healings, in the one Spirit; and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will.
(1Co 12:8-11)
It's piecemeal as He wills.
A
Hey there 
I have actually been wondering about this too... I have been asking Jesus to help me bear the fruit of the Spirit. One thing I realised recently is that sometimes we have to take God at His Word, and act on it before it becomes real to us. That means that we act out the fruit of the Spirit first and then it will become real to us. In each moment we can choose how to act. When I am tired I am more irritated when my kids asks me something. In that moment I choose to be patient. Patience is a fruit of the Spirit. Also, there is this saying in our church "Keep the main thing the main thing". The main thing is having a relationship with God. As we grow in our relationship with Him, we become more like Him. I think when we combine these two things we will bear the fruit of the Spirit. Does it help?
I have actually been wondering about this too... I have been asking Jesus to help me bear the fruit of the Spirit. One thing I realised recently is that sometimes we have to take God at His Word, and act on it before it becomes real to us. That means that we act out the fruit of the Spirit first and then it will become real to us. In each moment we can choose how to act. When I am tired I am more irritated when my kids asks me something. In that moment I choose to be patient. Patience is a fruit of the Spirit. Also, there is this saying in our church "Keep the main thing the main thing". The main thing is having a relationship with God. As we grow in our relationship with Him, we become more like Him. I think when we combine these two things we will bear the fruit of the Spirit. Does it help?
'Selfish feelings and desires' that comes from carnality/flesh consciousness and practices, their fruits are mentioned in Galatians 5;19-21. An enmity, hindrance and division against the Holy SPIRIT, according to verse 17. And believers get choke, those who hear the word/message of GOD (CHRIST) mixed with the world's word/message, mentioned as according to Luke 8;14 and verse 15 are the once who have been obedient and willful of GOD's word/message and the definition on which the solution and one can stand on firm foundation and be fruitful, is mentioned clearly in Luke 9;23-26.
And in verse 26, JESUS speaks about those who are ashamed of HIS word/message that which HE calls them first, to give up in order to receive riches in Heaven.
These are the born again sins, violating the New Covenant Words of spirit and life, dishonoring the SON who gave them and through HIS blood GOD made them and established them.
We are all witnesses to all of them in sound doctrine knowledge by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, without denial in order to, "Workout your Salvation in 'fear' and 'trembling'."
If believers, when majority of them do juggle and truggle, in-between both flesh and SPIRIT (New Covenant), when it is also written that they are in enmity with each other and hinders one's righteousness,
Then how can the full fruit of the Holy Spirit manifest in a believer, when GOD through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT and as the inspired written kingdom spiritual knowledge, that reveals a division in the believer's human body itself. And the Kingdom spiritual New Covenant knowledge words of spirit and life of GOD through CHRIST, inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT in the Holy Scripture of the Holy Bible, teaches us to whom we are called to obey and to whom we must despise.
Are we to blame GOD or 'self' that we are not willing to give up and closely are friends with day to day?
JESUS called us in the same New Covenant, to sell/renounce everything we have owned and follow HIM, also forget 'self' and carry our own cross and follow HIM daily. This is In order that upon denying 'self', the fruit of the SPIRIT may abound and flow richly through them, even onto their worse enemy.
But many of us sadly in ignorance to the New Covenant knowledge of a believer's call of sacrifices, have been neglected in practice and have further on the other hand wrongfully re-accumulated or accumulated material wealth which we are easily tempted to in the flesh and available in any way possible, even through loans. We even argue and fight and even murder to get what we want because of being full of 'selfish feelings and desires'.
Apostle Paul's reminder and to stir up memories, as it is written;
"'Do not' make provision for the flesh to gratify it's desires." (even when the opportunities and providence is rained down in our lives, by the will of GOD through CHRIST's name, we have come to pray.)
Further reminder and stir up of memory to those who want to continue in ignorance;
"Either hot or cold, not lukewarm for I will spit you out."
And in verse 26, JESUS speaks about those who are ashamed of HIS word/message that which HE calls them first, to give up in order to receive riches in Heaven.
These are the born again sins, violating the New Covenant Words of spirit and life, dishonoring the SON who gave them and through HIS blood GOD made them and established them.
We are all witnesses to all of them in sound doctrine knowledge by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, without denial in order to, "Workout your Salvation in 'fear' and 'trembling'."
If believers, when majority of them do juggle and truggle, in-between both flesh and SPIRIT (New Covenant), when it is also written that they are in enmity with each other and hinders one's righteousness,
Then how can the full fruit of the Holy Spirit manifest in a believer, when GOD through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT and as the inspired written kingdom spiritual knowledge, that reveals a division in the believer's human body itself. And the Kingdom spiritual New Covenant knowledge words of spirit and life of GOD through CHRIST, inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT in the Holy Scripture of the Holy Bible, teaches us to whom we are called to obey and to whom we must despise.
Are we to blame GOD or 'self' that we are not willing to give up and closely are friends with day to day?
JESUS called us in the same New Covenant, to sell/renounce everything we have owned and follow HIM, also forget 'self' and carry our own cross and follow HIM daily. This is In order that upon denying 'self', the fruit of the SPIRIT may abound and flow richly through them, even onto their worse enemy.
But many of us sadly in ignorance to the New Covenant knowledge of a believer's call of sacrifices, have been neglected in practice and have further on the other hand wrongfully re-accumulated or accumulated material wealth which we are easily tempted to in the flesh and available in any way possible, even through loans. We even argue and fight and even murder to get what we want because of being full of 'selfish feelings and desires'.
Apostle Paul's reminder and to stir up memories, as it is written;
"'Do not' make provision for the flesh to gratify it's desires." (even when the opportunities and providence is rained down in our lives, by the will of GOD through CHRIST's name, we have come to pray.)
Further reminder and stir up of memory to those who want to continue in ignorance;
"Either hot or cold, not lukewarm for I will spit you out."
Crossnote, what is happening? Are we going to agree on one point? I agree 100%. He dish out the gifts as HE PLEASES...
But He dish out the GIFTS of the HOLY SPIRIT. Not sin and lameness.... And here is the thing..... Can He give a gift WITHOUT the Spirit Himself? No... it is GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT... Not gifts of Cobus and Crossnote.
If a person does not have the gift/s of the Holy Spirit, it simply means he does not havet he Holy Spirit. And if a person has the Holy Spirit he/she will have a gift of the Holy Spirit. As simple as that.
But He dish out the GIFTS of the HOLY SPIRIT. Not sin and lameness.... And here is the thing..... Can He give a gift WITHOUT the Spirit Himself? No... it is GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT... Not gifts of Cobus and Crossnote.
If a person does not have the gift/s of the Holy Spirit, it simply means he does not havet he Holy Spirit. And if a person has the Holy Spirit he/she will have a gift of the Holy Spirit. As simple as that.
Acts 19:3) And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 .) Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 .) When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 .) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 8:9) But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: 10 .) To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. 11 .) And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries. 12 .) But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 .) Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14 .) Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 .) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 .) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) SALVATION
17 .) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. SANCTIFIICATION
18 .) And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 .) Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. 20 .) But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. 21 .) Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 .) Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
6 .) And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 8:9) But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: 10 .) To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. 11 .) And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries. 12 .) But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 .) Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14 .) Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 .) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 .) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) SALVATION
17 .) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. SANCTIFIICATION
18 .) And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 19 .) Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. 20 .) But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. 21 .) Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 .) Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
Let us all look also at the fruits of 'self' that is in enmity and contrary to the fruits of the SPIRIT.
Introduction
Galatians 5; 19-21:
vs.19 - "Now the works of the flesh are evident (and they work in contrary and apart from GOD's standards): sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, vs.20 - sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, vs.21 - envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, 'that those who do such things will not inherit the Kingdom of GOD".
Questions
1. Are we all here sure that we have forgotten our 'self' carnal nature as mentioned above, buried them at baptism?
2. Is there any of that mentioned bad fruits are still manifesting in our daily lives as Christian?
3. Why do we boast about the Old 'Law of the Letter' and teach others of their compulsory, when LORD clarified in the New 'Law of the SPIRIT that the 'wages of sin is death'?
4. When we have not even established in the LORD's words of spirit and life, in our new redeemed lives as lambs and sheep and called to excel in righteousness in order that which sets us free, why do we carry on in deceiving others?
Conclusion
Example, in the city of Kuala Lumpur itself, there are many denomination, and hardly they are able to 'unite' because of the Kingdom knowledge of GOD's Love lacking divisions. i say this sadly to see many lambs and sheep astray confused and spiteful or drunk because in witnessing partly, the division that one say, i go to a methodist church and another catholic and another goes on and on, also about other things, in distinguishing between them.
i am sure it is the same elsewhere, because as it is written, 'everything that is hidden will be exposed'.
In the HOLY BIBLE, the book of Revelation documents that in one city Christian had one signification church that CHRIST addressed to in writing to them and i believe all the others which were formed in that same city were established by them and came under them as 'one'.
"What are we witnessing today, as we have been taught the HOLY BIBLE, even in our own Christian homes today?"
'Sadly even in most of our homes, in secret, there are divisions and denomination trained practitioners. Spouse against spouse, children against children, parents against children and children against parents, and we are the Body of CHRIST?'
Do we still want to ignore the grieving of the HOLY SPIRIT, whom our flesh wrestles with day by day and further on continue in our ignorance childishness?
Introduction
Galatians 5; 19-21:
vs.19 - "Now the works of the flesh are evident (and they work in contrary and apart from GOD's standards): sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, vs.20 - sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, vs.21 - envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, 'that those who do such things will not inherit the Kingdom of GOD".
Questions
1. Are we all here sure that we have forgotten our 'self' carnal nature as mentioned above, buried them at baptism?
2. Is there any of that mentioned bad fruits are still manifesting in our daily lives as Christian?
3. Why do we boast about the Old 'Law of the Letter' and teach others of their compulsory, when LORD clarified in the New 'Law of the SPIRIT that the 'wages of sin is death'?
4. When we have not even established in the LORD's words of spirit and life, in our new redeemed lives as lambs and sheep and called to excel in righteousness in order that which sets us free, why do we carry on in deceiving others?
Conclusion
Example, in the city of Kuala Lumpur itself, there are many denomination, and hardly they are able to 'unite' because of the Kingdom knowledge of GOD's Love lacking divisions. i say this sadly to see many lambs and sheep astray confused and spiteful or drunk because in witnessing partly, the division that one say, i go to a methodist church and another catholic and another goes on and on, also about other things, in distinguishing between them.
i am sure it is the same elsewhere, because as it is written, 'everything that is hidden will be exposed'.
In the HOLY BIBLE, the book of Revelation documents that in one city Christian had one signification church that CHRIST addressed to in writing to them and i believe all the others which were formed in that same city were established by them and came under them as 'one'.
"What are we witnessing today, as we have been taught the HOLY BIBLE, even in our own Christian homes today?"
'Sadly even in most of our homes, in secret, there are divisions and denomination trained practitioners. Spouse against spouse, children against children, parents against children and children against parents, and we are the Body of CHRIST?'
Do we still want to ignore the grieving of the HOLY SPIRIT, whom our flesh wrestles with day by day and further on continue in our ignorance childishness?
T
This is one amazing thread you started here.
Have you ever heard that saying "Whatever you're doing in this season Jesus; don't do it without me."
For me I think Jesus's response is "Whatever you plan to do in this season you can't do it without me."
I say that to say this... The gospel doesn't have to be complicated.
I believe we make(myself included) goals like " I'm going to do my best to forsake this sin or that sin"
but when we try to justify ourselves by human means we hit a spiritual wall every time.
I think the reason we don't sometimes experience certain spiritual gifts is because we're relying own ourselves to much.
I believe we should examine every decision by biblical principle.
We should be able to come to Jesus and say.. "Lord, this is what you want, I know you're way is just and true and leads to peace and life, but this other think is really alluring to me and that's what I want to do. Please help my unbelief, I agree with your way of doing things."
I think until we learn to include Christ in all our affairs we can't operate at full efficiency.
I hope that was helpful.
God bless
Have you ever heard that saying "Whatever you're doing in this season Jesus; don't do it without me."
For me I think Jesus's response is "Whatever you plan to do in this season you can't do it without me."
I say that to say this... The gospel doesn't have to be complicated.
I believe we make(myself included) goals like " I'm going to do my best to forsake this sin or that sin"
but when we try to justify ourselves by human means we hit a spiritual wall every time.
I think the reason we don't sometimes experience certain spiritual gifts is because we're relying own ourselves to much.
I believe we should examine every decision by biblical principle.
We should be able to come to Jesus and say.. "Lord, this is what you want, I know you're way is just and true and leads to peace and life, but this other think is really alluring to me and that's what I want to do. Please help my unbelief, I agree with your way of doing things."
I think until we learn to include Christ in all our affairs we can't operate at full efficiency.
I hope that was helpful.
God bless