What Really happened in the Garden of God, repost with corrections

[posthuman]

I never called you (personally) my brethren from the start, you just assumed I did when I was speaking to angelsonthemove4u when I mentioned agreeing with brethren (whether male or female) in a general

Making a joke like that meant I felt more comfortable being inclusive of both male and female as it related to my agreement verses with just you (individually).

Instead of embarrass you about understanding my agreement to be just with you (as in one brethren alone) I just thought to make a joke of the same because I did not want to call the greater part "sistern" when I was being inclusive.

Next time I will not add humor to someone missing me on something, and just tell them they missed the fact I wasnt saying something kind to just them. Either one works for me, I just felt that was kinder.

i took the smaller context of what a nice verse Psalm 133:1 is and looked at your post about agreement to at the least include me. but we agree with the other 'brethren' about the central issue of this thread; that Adam is Cain's father -- and more importantly than agreeing with each other, we agree with what the scripture says.

it's in Christ and in the testimony of the Word that we all have unity - all believers - when any of us start contradicting it, that is what stirs up division. the division here started in post #1, contradicting the account of Cain's birth. it's not anyone who's ridiculed the falsity who is stirring up division; it's the division itself.

drive out a mocker, and conflict goes too
(Proverbs 22:10)
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the thing that mocks truth is a lie - cast out the lie, and we all agree. it doesn't have to be the one who was deceived by it, who should be cast out, if that one will accept admonishment.

the scriptures also agree using "brethren" in a sexless sense, inclusive of men and women, i think.
the "cistern" with whom we have to do is that well of living water -- we agree there too, yes!
laughter is associated with joy:

Our mouths were filled with laughter,
our tongues with songs of joy.
(Psalm 126:2)


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and joy, with that water:

With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation.
(Isaiah 12:3)

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-- don't let my vanity be the cause of your loss of good humor

i love you! i am glad to think that we have fellowship in the truth; that's all.

 

[DesiredHaven]

i took the smaller context of what a nice verse Psalm 133:1 is and looked at your post about agreement to at the least include me. but we agree with the other 'brethren' about the central issue of this thread; that Adam is Cain's father -- and more importantly than agreeing with each other, we agree with what the scripture says.

it's in Christ and in the testimony of the Word that we all have unity - all believers - when any of us start contradicting it, that is what stirs up division. the division here started in post #1, contradicting the account of Cain's birth. it's not anyone who's ridiculed the falsity who is stirring up division; it's the division itself.

drive out a mocker, and conflict goes too
(Proverbs 22:10)
​

the thing that mocks truth is a lie - cast out the lie, and we all agree. it doesn't have to be the one who was deceived by it, who should be cast out, if that one will accept admonishment.

the scriptures also agree using "brethren" in a sexless sense, inclusive of men and women, i think.
the "cistern" with whom we have to do is that well of living water -- we agree there too, yes!
laughter is associated with joy:

Our mouths were filled with laughter,
our tongues with songs of joy.
(Psalm 126:2)


​

and joy, with that water:

With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation.
(Isaiah 12:3)

​

-- don't let my vanity be the cause of your loss of good humor

i love you! i am glad to think that we have fellowship in the truth; that's all.

..."the scriptures also agree using "brethren" in a sexless sense,inclusive of men and women, i think."

Yes, sexless and plural

I was pointing out that I said brethren not brother, I meant it in the sexless "plural sense"

Rather then "sistern" withe an S not a C

(which is making a play on the words sisters in contrast) but in the female sex sense of things

And I shouldnt be using humor, I had dropped using humor for a time (even foolish jesting after having been convicted of it years before) and I have allowed that back into my conversations , and that really shouldnt be.

I need to re examine and decide against certain things I have allowed back into my communications because that is where I get "got" when I leave myself open in certain areas and this just happens to be one of those.

God is good, he is always teaching us the right way, that should be put off far from me.

Its a good lesson, Thank you and God bless

 

[Origin]

What happened to Eve in the Garden ?and why is Cain not in Adams blood line in Genesis chapter 5 and why does Cain have his own bloodline in Genesis chapter 4 , It is because satan impregnated Eve and Adam did as well , hence Cain is of satan the fallen angel and Able is of Adam who was the beginning bloodline Christ came through Luke Chap 3 is Christ Bloodline from Adam to Christ , you will not find cain in it , because he was satan`s literal son , that`s why Cain was the first murderer , want more proof just read the book of Jude for yourself , this is why the bible is about two families on earth at war with each other (Muslim against Christian ) because God in Genesis 3:15 put enmity (hate) between the serpent (satan) and the woman (Eve) seed (children) Now if you do not know the serpent was really satan go to Revelation chap 20:2 and see for yourself who the serpent was , the point is Cain and Able were born of two different fathers and spiritually God is The Christians Father and satan spiritually is the father of the murderous radical muslims who seek to kill Christians today as Cain killed Able in the beginning , Christ was dealing with Cain`s offspring in John chap 8:44 ..God is in control of this world and His word comes to pass as it is written, There will be no Peace until Christ returns, just do not forget satan the son of perdition and he gets to test all of us before Christ shows up 2nd Thessalonians chap 2 Christ comes after satan and satan has only 5 months in Revelation chap 9 verse 10 to do his part in God`s plan to humble us all good or evil.... (if) you actually do this study , you will avoid eternal shame and the mark of the beast...yes two men can impregnate the same woman Because it is Biblical ....I know it`s hard to understand for the unlearned , But if you have a concordance go to Genesis chap 4:2 and translate the word (again) back to Hebrew you will find that the true word is continued and bared Cain`s brother Abel ,we call that a birth of twins in these days when a woman continues in labor and has two children then look up Genesis chap 3:13-15 God is talking to the serpent , who is satan Revelation 20:2 and tells satan I will put enmity which is HATE , between satan and his offspring and the woman Eve`s offspring so this is where I get my truths not from biblically illiterate gainsayers.....My point regarding this article is yes it can happen because it happened in the Garden of God based on the word of God , not my imagination...this is why the radical muslims who are of Cain`s lineage seek to kill Christians who for the most part are of the tribes of Israel and of Adams bloodline...God`s word is true and before you scoff do the study and ask God to reveal His truths to you , He showed it to me and now I show it to you with hope that your knowledge of God`s truths based in scripture will speak to your heart. Peace to all who do this study and hope for many to receive God`s scripture with a glad heart, remember you must become as a child to enter into the Kingdom of heaven and as we all know children of God are always ready to learn, not gainsay and dispute. btw satan known as the Prince of tyre (rock) is satan and his death sentence is Ezekiel 28:17-18 Duet. 32 confirms the differences between the their rock (satan) and Our Rock(Christ) 32:31 God Doctrine is raining down , so take a shower in this lesson and in all your getting get understanding..Peace to all who Love God and do this study.

Great post, just beautiful..

 

[RickyZ]

The unlearned ,expose themselves readily

Uh, yeah, you sure did

I will stick with pleasing God.

I'll stick to my last assertion: You are attributing something from God (the birth of Cain) to satan. Jesus clearly says this is blaspheme (Mark 10)! And as much as I try, I just can't see God being pleased with your blaspheme.

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Titus 3:10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning

1 Timothy 1:20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme.

Romans 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them.

Matthew 18:15-17 "If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. "But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED. "If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

1 Timothy 5:20 Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning.

Following theses admonitions, I will now unsubscribe from your thread; and congrats, you are now the 2nd person to be put on my ignore list.

I pray some day you come to your spiritual senses and I may once again embrace you.

 

[mpaper345]

Ge:3:15: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Bible says that God put enmity between the serpent and the woman,not the serpent and the children of God,which means enmity between Satan and all mankind,and Jesus will put him down.

Ge:4:1: And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Also Eve said she had gotten a man from the LORD,not from Satan.

Ge:4:15: And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

I think the people that believe that the children of Cain are the children of the devil,believe that the mark that God put on Cain was dark skin.They believe that Cain is the father of the Negro race.

But this is absurd because God said He is no respecter of persons,and anybody that sins and is not with God is of the devil.

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

Why do you not understand ? A mans seed is sperm, Children are called Seed to this moment , The serpent(satan rev20:2) was a man and He was in the Garden , he was given the title of tree of knowledge of good and evil ,but trees are symbolic of men mark 8:21-25 and He beguiled the woman,which means wholly seduced and she did lay down with Him , she did touch satan Genesis chap3:3 Is God`s instruction to Eve, simply go to your Strong`s concordance and look up the word (touch) #5060 in the Hebrew translation (Naga)... If you also look up beguiled Genesis 3:13 you will find that it means what I said # 5377 Maybe you have never seduced a woman , but keep in mind Adam touched that tree as well , that is why God cursed the ground man walks on Genesis 3:17 , you are a tree so get yourself rooted and grounded in faith which comes by hearing , I pray all who read this gain deeper understanding , and that my being shunned and persecuted by some is to be expected , I am following Christ and the world hated Him before it hated me and if your a true follower of Christ then expect this from the world Mat 10:22 and 24:9 Mark 13:13 luke 21:17 John 15:18 your not following Christ when you attack another Christian with condescending and rude comments, your only being part of the world , Remember the truth will set you free...

 

[Tintin]

Why do you not understand ? A mans seed is sperm, Children are called Seed to this moment , The serpent(satan rev20:2) was a man and He was in the Garden , he was given the title of tree of knowledge of good and evil ,but trees are symbolic of men mark 8:21-25 and He beguiled the woman,which means wholly seduced and she did lay down with Him , she did touch satan Genesis chap3:3 Is God`s instruction to Eve, simply go to your Strong`s concordance and look up the word (touch) #5060 in the Hebrew translation (Naga)... If you also look up beguiled Genesis 3:13 you will find that it means what I said # 5377 Maybe you have never seduced a woman , but keep in mind Adam touched that tree as well , that is why God cursed the ground man walks on Genesis 3:17 , you are a tree so get yourself rooted and grounded in faith which comes by hearing , I pray all who read this gain deeper understanding , and that my being shunned and persecuted by some is to be expected , I am following Christ and the world hated Him before it hated me and if your a true follower of Christ then expect this from the world Mat 10:22 and 24:9 Mark 13:13 luke 21:17 John 15:18 your not following Christ when you attack another Christian with condescending and rude comments, your only being part of the world , Remember the truth will set you free...

No-one is attacking you. But the truth has to prevail when you're preaching false ideas. Please learn to read the Bible in context. Let Holy Spirit lead you into the truth. Don't try to lead Holy Spirit.

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

Deuteronomy 32 is the Song of Moses which True and faithful Christians shall be sing when God returns Revelation 15:3 , Have not you read 32 are you so foolish to not see what God is saying in a song that will be sung after the change, 1st CORINTHIANS 15:51 and God showed me this mystery , now it`s been shown to you , Lord for your sake I pray in Jesus name that you cause the scales to fall off the blind brethren whom I love and seek only to let people know God does not need defending ,Isaiah 40:13 and if God has people on earth who love Him and stand with Him in ALL things pertaining to salvation and brotherhood Then surely , they must believe God`s word comes to pass as it is written Jeremiah 3:15 , how hard is it to fathom God is a reality not a religion full of false teachings and traditions of men... I still forgive you, in Jesus name.

 

[thecreationtutor]

Why do you not understand ? A mans seed is sperm, Children are called Seed to this moment , The serpent(satan rev20:2) was a man and He was in the Garden , he was given the title of tree of knowledge of good and evil ,but trees are symbolic of men mark 8:21-25 and He beguiled the woman,which means wholly seduced and she did lay down with Him , she did touch satan Genesis chap3:3 Is God`s instruction to Eve, simply go to your Strong`s concordance and look up the word (touch) #5060 in the Hebrew translation (Naga)... If you also look up beguiled Genesis 3:13 you will find that it means what I said # 5377 Maybe you have never seduced a woman , but keep in mind Adam touched that tree as well , that is why God cursed the ground man walks on Genesis 3:17 , you are a tree so get yourself rooted and grounded in faith which comes by hearing , I pray all who read this gain deeper understanding , and that my being shunned and persecuted by some is to be expected , I am following Christ and the world hated Him before it hated me and if your a true follower of Christ then expect this from the world Mat 10:22 and 24:9 Mark 13:13 luke 21:17 John 15:18 your not following Christ when you attack another Christian with condescending and rude comments, your only being part of the world , Remember the truth will set you free...

You say this but Abraham's seed produce Ishmael - True followers, don't wrangle with words in fruitless discussions. You assume your being persecuted for people not being nice to you? You make up stuff, have fun with that.

 

[Origin]

lol smh. this is interesting. ive learned so much here

 

[damombomb]

Why do you not understand ? A mans seed is sperm, Children are called Seed to this moment , The serpent(satan rev20:2) was a man and He was in the Garden , he was given the title of tree of knowledge of good and evil ,but trees are symbolic of men mark 8:21-25 and He beguiled the woman,which means wholly seduced and she did lay down with Him , she did touch satan Genesis chap3:3 Is God`s instruction to Eve, simply go to your Strong`s concordance and look up the word (touch) #5060 in the Hebrew translation (Naga)... If you also look up beguiled Genesis 3:13 you will find that it means what I said # 5377 Maybe you have never seduced a woman , but keep in mind Adam touched that tree as well , that is why God cursed the ground man walks on Genesis 3:17 , you are a tree so get yourself rooted and grounded in faith which comes by hearing , I pray all who read this gain deeper understanding , and that my being shunned and persecuted by some is to be expected , I am following Christ and the world hated Him before it hated me and if your a true follower of Christ then expect this from the world Mat 10:22 and 24:9 Mark 13:13 luke 21:17 John 15:18 your not following Christ when you attack another Christian with condescending and rude comments, your only being part of the world , Remember the truth will set you free...

Gen 3;6
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

It say's she ate...

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

I have not contradicted God`s word one jot or tittle , if you take the time to follow the scriptures I have posted and responses to other brethren and do the diligence ,down to the concordance work , you will learn for yourself... My faith which can move mountains and gives me peace in Christ is all I need, even though I am being denied access to your hearts God will cause the seeds to grow that I plant, I am just a sower in Our Fathers vineyard , Jeremiah 43 is what I`m up to with my gift of being sealed and my hope , because it is God`s hope that not one soul perish 2nd Peter 3:9 , so as you can see hopefully there is work being done on earth to cause God`s desire to come to pass , what is so hard to understand Christ foretold us all things Mk 13:23 why are people surprised , God said it would be this way at this time 2nd Timothy chap 3 . and He said he would do this Jeremiah 3:15 so again why so surprised ? btw go to genesis 3:3 ..Eve is talking to the serpent who was very subtle translate{ Touch) back to Hebrew #5060 in the Strong`s Then translate eat back to the hebrew #398, if you do your homework with due diligence God rewards you Hebrews 11:6 again no surprise , Matthew 10:40 is good to know , Because it should be obvious by now , I m using scripture which means I read my bible daily and have a pretty blessed life, because I know wisdom is my closet KINSMEN Proverbs 5:23 God is Wisdom and a Tree of life 3:18 My hope that eyes and ears are opened, what is being taught is called strong meat .. Peace to my brethren.

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

I love you too Ricky

 

[DesiredHaven]

The serpent seed doctrine comes and goes in all the forums like every other wind of doctrine.

Its nothing new.

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

Translate in a Strong`s #5060 (Touch) in 3:3 and (eat) of the tree #398, the tree is a man , his name is satan and he has the knowledge of good and evil and remember when sexual intercourse is occurring , that you burn or are consumed with passion , at least I am and most hot blooded Christian males, cause Christians make the best Love. ERGO: Cain is not in Adams bloodline..and please explain to the brethren why not?

 

[angelsonthemove4u]

Well since Deut 32:33 is relevant I guess we should know who the main serpent is, Rev 20:2 and his offspring serpents and who the dragon is, also because were going to be singing the song of Moses in Rev 15:3 ,have you memorized it yet ? The song of Moses I mean , if God is true then why do you not believe the 2nd verse of The song of Moses is it because you have not read the first verse ?, or do you think in judgement that I am of the devil?...I mean I would not be amazed because I`m taught to expect to be a voice in the wilderness , the world did not accept Christ and if your following Christ it will pretty much do the same thing to you as it did to Him, being killed by words of judgement of by the brethren, Love to you and your home.

 

[valiant]

I have not contradicted God`s word one jot or tittle , if you take the time to follow the scriptures I have posted and responses to other brethren and do the diligence ,down to the concordance work , you will learn for yourself... My faith which can move mountains and gives me peace in Christ is all I need, even though I am being denied access to your hearts God will cause the seeds to grow that I plant, I am just a sower in Our Fathers vineyard , Jeremiah 43 is what I`m up to with my gift of being sealed and my hope , because it is God`s hope that not one soul perish 2nd Peter 3:9 , so as you can see hopefully there is work being done on earth to cause God`s desire to come to pass , what is so hard to understand Christ foretold us all things Mk 13:23 why are people surprised , God said it would be this way at this time 2nd Timothy chap 3 . and He said he would do this Jeremiah 3:15 so again why so surprised ? btw go to genesis 3:3 ..Eve is talking to the serpent who was very subtle translate{ Touch) back to Hebrew #5060 in the Strong`s Then translate eat back to the hebrew #398, if you do your homework with due diligence God rewards you Hebrews 11:6 again no surprise , Matthew 10:40 is good to know , Because it should be obvious by now , I m using scripture which means I read my bible daily and have a pretty blessed life, because I know wisdom is my closet KINSMEN Proverbs 5:23 God is Wisdom and a Tree of life 3:18 My hope that eyes and ears are opened, what is being taught is called strong meat .. Peace to my brethren.

It doesn't matter who Cain was LOL All his descendants died in the Flood. So they cannot be around today. What you say is certainly strong meat. It is meat that has gone off. It pongs to high Heaven.

Guess you're a fallen angel

 

[thecreationtutor]

It's really sad when people equate their bad theology, and plain bad reasoning as Scripture. You don't have a "special" thing with God - you have what He freely offers everyone in Jesus Christ. No Scripture is for private interpretations, and that is what you are doing.

It is not persecution if your just plain wrong, and being self-deceived. I am sorry if the Glories of Jesus Christ are not enough for your and you have to go on anti-biblical tangents, you are heading for a cliff.


You started with an opinion about Muslims, and you twisted scripture to make it say what is plainly not there, we have showed you - Scripture after scripture. This is a logical fallacy


Anathema at a certain point, if anyone does not abide by the words of Jesus and plain reasoning - Anathema

 

[breno785au]

Translate in a Strong`s #5060 (Touch) in 3:3 and (eat) of the tree #398, the tree is a man , his name is satan and he has the knowledge of good and evil and remember when sexual intercourse is occurring , that you burn or are consumed with passion , at least I am and most hot blooded Christian males, cause Christians make the best Love. ERGO: Cain is not in Adams bloodline..and please explain to the brethren why not?

OK, so satan jumped on Eve and his way with her and what did Adam do? Sat back and watched the show?
You can be seduced into other things than sex.
Should I expect some super spiritual retort now that I have scales over my eyes because I don't agree with you or something?

 

[DesiredHaven]

I think it means you should get DNA testing on your spouses before marrying them and multiplying more half breeds of serpent people (in a very literal/physical way)