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"Did God really say" . . . Satan made Eve question God's integrity
God said - "thou mayest FREELY eat of every tree" . . . . Eve responded to Satan - We may eat . . . omitted "freely"
Eve also said . . . "nor TOUCH it" . . . added a word
Satan said . . . "Ye shall be as god" . . . "knowing good and evil" . . . puffed up (pride)
Then the outright lie . . . Ye shall not surely die.
Even to this day man is deceived in this way . . . questioning the integrity of God's word, adding words, omitting words, pride, and then outright lies.
"Did God really say" . . . Satan made Eve question God's integrity
God said - "thou mayest FREELY eat of every tree" . . . . Eve responded to Satan - We may eat . . . omitted "freely"
Eve also said . . . "nor TOUCH it" . . . added a word
Satan said . . . "Ye shall be as god" . . . "knowing good and evil" . . . puffed up (pride)
Then the outright lie . . . Ye shall not surely die.
Even to this day man is deceived in this way . . . questioning the integrity of God's word, adding words, omitting words, pride, and then outright lies.
The first lie is as you pointed out, a very simple lie, a question suggesting God did not mean what he said, and it seems Eve was not deceived by that one given her rightly answer.
The second lie was of course "you shall not die". Seems simple to see through for us living in a dying world, but it was more subtle if we consider Adam and Eve did not fully understand death as death did not enter the world until after they ate thereof. Notice Eve does not respond to that one.
The third lie is one that stumps a lot of people. It is very subtle with the dragon lying that the fruit would make them as God. Where it shows itself to be a lie is that if Adam and Eve were immortal and given dominion of earth and everything was good as God said in chapters 1 and 2, and they were in harmony with God, then they were all ready godlike.
I don't think it was any pride on Eve's part, I think she intended well as indicated by the following verses about how she thought the fruit then was good and would make her wise. She was merely beguiled. Through those three lies though the dragon pretty much committed every sin. So it is no wonder that the dragon is cursed above all animals.
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The sin was on Adam for GOD made a Covenant with Adam. The Bible states Eve was deceived. So this means Adam was not. - deceived: uncertain, beguiled
so by the way Eve responded to the serpent/satan we see that she was uncertained she stated they should not eat of it nor touch it GOD never stated touch to Adam. So the sin is more than being disobedient it is breaking the Covenant with GOD in which generations must suffer the consequences.
Because of Lucifer GOD had to make a Covenant with Adam, because of Adam animal sacrifices had to now seal the Covenant, because the animal sacrifices JESUS had to once and for all shed HIS innocent BLOOD for humanity. This all because of breaking a Covenant. Not only did Lucifer become satan he took 1/3 of GOD's angels to turn against GOD and these very angels took on the form of demonic beings which the earth and those who dwell in it battle daily.
Now prior too the battle humanity has with the demonic beings there was a war in Heaven in which GOD's angels battled with the demonic beings and tossed them out of Heaven to Earth.
This is the real sin in the Garden of Eden.
Blessings!!!!!!!
so by the way Eve responded to the serpent/satan we see that she was uncertained she stated they should not eat of it nor touch it GOD never stated touch to Adam. So the sin is more than being disobedient it is breaking the Covenant with GOD in which generations must suffer the consequences.
Because of Lucifer GOD had to make a Covenant with Adam, because of Adam animal sacrifices had to now seal the Covenant, because the animal sacrifices JESUS had to once and for all shed HIS innocent BLOOD for humanity. This all because of breaking a Covenant. Not only did Lucifer become satan he took 1/3 of GOD's angels to turn against GOD and these very angels took on the form of demonic beings which the earth and those who dwell in it battle daily.
Now prior too the battle humanity has with the demonic beings there was a war in Heaven in which GOD's angels battled with the demonic beings and tossed them out of Heaven to Earth.
This is the real sin in the Garden of Eden.
Blessings!!!!!!!
It was disobedience,and that is why there was that one tree there,because God gave them a choice,whether to obey Him,or do their own thing,and I do not believe that it would have entered their mind to disobey unless an outside source tempted them,so God allowed Satan to tempt Eve,and then she tempted Adam.When Satan tempted Eve by saying,did God really say that,she told him straight up they could not eat of that tree,so Satan tried a different approach by trying to get her to exalt herself.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world(1 John 2:16).
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat(Genesis 3:6).
Eve commited all 3 of those desires of the world,in that order they are described in 1 John 2:16.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world(1 John 2:16).
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat(Genesis 3:6).
Eve commited all 3 of those desires of the world,in that order they are described in 1 John 2:16.
Lust conceives sin=death
Lust of the eyes<--pleasant to the eyes
Lust of the flesh<---good for food
Pride of Life<--Make one wise as God
She disobeyed, took the fruit and ate<----that was the sin born of the above three listed lusts!
Eve was definitely deceived...Adam sinned wilfully knowing full well he was sinning
Lust of the eyes<--pleasant to the eyes
Lust of the flesh<---good for food
Pride of Life<--Make one wise as God
She disobeyed, took the fruit and ate<----that was the sin born of the above three listed lusts!
Eve was definitely deceived...Adam sinned wilfully knowing full well he was sinning
S
Because we are all sons and daughters of God. Otherwise would you take that to it's ultimate conclusion and worship men as gods? Of coarse not!
Salvation is all about surrender of your will to God's will, Surrender of your thinking to God's way of thinking. Everyone who wants to be his own God is in sin. I believe it is the one ultimate sin from which all other sins arise. Just remember Satan, the father of all who follow him. He said " I will exalt myself to be like the most high." It was that same sin that he tempted men with because it was his ultimate desire.
Salvation is all about surrender of your will to God's will, Surrender of your thinking to God's way of thinking. Everyone who wants to be his own God is in sin. I believe it is the one ultimate sin from which all other sins arise. Just remember Satan, the father of all who follow him. He said " I will exalt myself to be like the most high." It was that same sin that he tempted men with because it was his ultimate desire.
I agree on the first part. To answer the question; if we are gods then it would only seem prudent to worship the Most High God. Remember, God did not think it robbery to be equals.
As for that dragon, he is not the one in Ezekiel 28 or Isaiah 14 if that is what you are alluding to, but those were men. Though it is nevertheless a good example of how sometimes men become twisted by a rather old lie spoken by a dragon. I get your point, it is a temptation, but then it is also an obvious lie. For if man is by default gods, then by sinning and forsaking eternal life they have essentially forfeited their godlikeness. Converse to that, if man is by default gods, children of the Most High, then it seems Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection is all the more purposeful to reconcile man to God.
As for that dragon, he is not the one in Ezekiel 28 or Isaiah 14 if that is what you are alluding to, but those were men. Though it is nevertheless a good example of how sometimes men become twisted by a rather old lie spoken by a dragon. I get your point, it is a temptation, but then it is also an obvious lie. For if man is by default gods, then by sinning and forsaking eternal life they have essentially forfeited their godlikeness. Converse to that, if man is by default gods, children of the Most High, then it seems Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection is all the more purposeful to reconcile man to God.
B
They listened and heeded the voice of a stranger in the garden at tree of knowledge. This became the premise for their transgression. The result was they became self-aware and hid themselves from the voice of God and when confronted, the ultimate blame went against the voice of the serpent.
The mystery of iniquity that is working in this present evil world is the many spirits and voices of those spirits that have gone out into the world. These are the voice of strangers that captivate the imaginations of the heart leading man into disobedience. As believers we are to cast down every imagination and thought that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and we are to revenge disobedience with obedience.
The mystery of iniquity that is working in this present evil world is the many spirits and voices of those spirits that have gone out into the world. These are the voice of strangers that captivate the imaginations of the heart leading man into disobedience. As believers we are to cast down every imagination and thought that exalts itself against the knowledge of God and we are to revenge disobedience with obedience.
