whats wrong with this king

[WolfInOxHide]

I pray that as you ask these questions, you will be lead to read Solomon's life in the bible.
I believe that the dark message you see can be changed.

what wisdom come with such man Obsessed with sex like him
specially a wisdom include God

God gave him the wisdom before he did certain of his transgressions.
Some of the women he had, were prohibited by God. God did not like Him having some of those wives.

then what wisdom came with that give me an example

One of the points of the story is that even the wisest and most materially blessed men on earth will still commit great sins against God because of:
Pride.
Sex.
Idolatry.

Islam teaches that Solomon wasn't sinful right? Be glad you have another version of the story in the bible.
In the end, he was punished and his kingdom divided. Having all of his life's work be for nothing was his punishment.

Peace.

 

[celestemekent]

Abair with the attitude you demonstrate you really need to cut everything Solomon wrote out of the Bible since as you say

"Sexual decay slavery raped is sins !!! they are crimes no good come with that

then what good you talking about ?

why you chose to be ignorance for such crimes ?"

Therefore if nothing good comes from that then explain why any of Solomon's extensive writings remain in scripture?!??!!??

 

[Saint-John]

the old test a schoolmaster ,to teach us and to bring us unto Christ.in this example one thing brought out is not to get enticed away from God,with anything..

 

[pickles]

what wisdom come with such man Obsessed with sex like him
specially a wisdom include God
actually if a man like him talk about God and morality i will chose to go to hill than worship his God who allow him to slaves people when he claim created them to worship him and claim "loving them"
then what wisdom came with that give me an example



what wrong with God men they do not take the responsibility for their mistakes, or he do not chose well !!!
when one of them made a mistake he cry she made me do it
what a fool believe that
what kind of men they were

Because man fails to always choose what is good.
God , when He created us, by giving us choice, knew we would sin.
So God Our Father, knowing by giving us this choice , we would sin, took the price of sin upon Himself.
Through His son, Jesus Chist is Lord come in the flesh!
God gave us choice to love Him, to recieve Him, for perfect love cannot come through slavery.
So God , wanting us to know perfect love gave us choice, because of choice we sin.
God took responcibuility for our sin, so we would know perfect love through choice, and by Jesus's sacrifice, taking sin upon Himself, payed the price of sin.
So that we not only could choose His perfect love, but recieve it as well, grace!

God bless
pickles

 

[Cobus]

Abair, first of all the mistake you make is to think GOD allowed sin.... God would NEVER allow sin, HE tolerates sin. God tolorate sin in you as HE did in David and ALL people! The single time I cheated my wife is as sinful as the single time Adam ate what he was not supposed to eat! Sin is sin, and there is no magnitude or quantity to it. Sin, ALL sin, are tolerated by GOD only for a time!

Like David regretted some of his aactions, so do you and I! And what do I do with my regrets? I take it to the ONE THAT TOLERATES my disobedience! That is what David did and that is what I do! That is what Jesus advized and that is what I take as my solution to sin.... I take it to Jesus, and HE SAVES ME FROM IT!

Do you know what is wrong with this king? He listened more to his flesh than to the advice of God! God does not change, when in the old testament they wanted divorce, Moses gave them a letter, and Jesus explained it was because of the HARDNESS of their hearts, that they did these things.... MOSES even suffered them (tolerated their hardened) hearts. Do not get confused about allow, and tolerate or suffer their hardness! Moses and God would NEVER allow sin, but they both had to suffer it or tolerate it. God calls it patience, longsuffering and race!

Remember marriage is one of the things that is confined to EARTH, so I am not to conserned about it for the AFTER LIFE WITH GOD! And from the beginnig the "put away your wives " was NOT SO!!!! Today it is also NOT SO!!!!! God hates adultery and divorce! It is evil and does not belong to the ones God wants as His children. God said what He has put together let no man put asunder. It means that no man should divide this what God has put together.

So if you ask me what is wrong with David or his son Solomon, I would say, pity they did not have Jesus as the example, Jesus had NO WIFE, NO SEX, and NO SIN! What an awesome God we serve! And pity they did not listen to God as they should, just like us! So may the Lord have mercy on us that we would not do AGAINST Him but WITH HIM! Amen!

 

[JaumeJ]

Please forgive the wordy post, I hate them myself, but the information, the quotes, are pertinent to the thread.

Below are the promises to Kings David and Solomon. It is obvious the two Kings did not keep up their end of the promises. Looking into the laws of Moses governing the behavior of a King of Israel, neither obeyed these laws either. Yet there is a King on the Throne of David (Beloved), and He reigns and will reign forever. Why? Because He did not break one single law of a King, and He obeyed the Father unto His death, agonizing on the cross for us. He is now our King.

Has it occurred to all that Yahweh knew the terms would not be met by these two kings? After all they walked the earth in the flesh. All is worth just some meditation.

The promise of God, Yahweh to King David:

2Sa 7:8 Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel:
2Sa 7:9 And I was with thee whithersoever thou wentest, and have cut off all thine enemies out of thy sight, and have made thee a great name, like unto the name of the great men that are in the earth.
2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,
2Sa 7:11 And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the LORD telleth thee that he will make thee an house.
2Sa 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
2Sa 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

The promise of God, Yahweh to King Solomon.

1Ki 9:2 That the LORD appeared to Solomon the second time, as he had appeared unto him at Gibeon.
1Ki 9:3 And the LORD said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, that thou hast made before me: I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
1Ki 9:4 And if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, in integrity of heart, and in uprightness, to do according to all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my statutes and my judgments:
1Ki 9:5 Then I will establish the throne of thy kingdom upon Israel for ever, as I promised to David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man upon the throne of Israel.
1Ki 9:6 But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:
1Ki 9:7 Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people:
1Ki 9:8 And at this house, which is high, every one that passeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss; and they shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and to this house?
1Ki 9:9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.

 

[rauleetoe]

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

2 Samuel 5:13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.

2 Samuel 5:13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.

700+300=1000
he must busy with having sex all day long
God really really spoiled him

?????

Just because God chose to overlook it does not mean he condoned it or told them to do it. So, saying that he 'spoiled them' is a mere carnal response to seeing what is written in scripture. He may have allowed it, but we can see God ordained marriage between one man, to one woman..anything else is against God's will. Even in the old testament we can see God was gracious and chose to overlook their sin for a time, yet look at David, and Solomon..did they benefit from this lifestyle? Heavens no! Sounds like someone wishes they were 'spoiled'...(why else would you say such things?)
that or you just really do not see that God gave grace, even to Adam and Eve when they fell.
That said, no it was not ok that they had all these concubines and wives..
You see Abraham with one wife..and other men in the bible with one wife..one must not get too caught up in what he 'allowed' and not say while pointing this scripture 'God spoiled them!'...no..he overlooked it for a season, yet never said it was ok or approved it..
big difference.

 

[rauleetoe]

God didn't particularly spoil him...
He had so many because it says he was a misogynist. He was addicted to women.
It was also the source of his downfall.

Amen..exactly..one should never say 'God spoiled him'..huh? Spoil him? With sin? God is holy, he would never spoil you with sin..he may allow you to do things but he did not approve you or give you the green light..King Solomon had wives who worshipped other Gods..and we all know how that turned out for him(he was influenced to worship those other Gods/false Gods)
God gave commands for his people back them to not mix with foreign women(not because of their race/ethnicity) But because he knew they did not worship him, and he did not want us to be unequally yoked.

 

[mule]

Solomon indulged in every pleasure. And the total sum was:
Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity

Ecclesiastes tells how futile it all is, a lot like a sober drug addict telling others not to do drugs.
Solomon is saying I have done it all and now I see it was vanity.
Thanks dude ha ha

 

[trust_in_the_name]

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

2 Samuel 5:13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.

2 Samuel 5:13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.

700+300=1000
he must busy with having sex all day long
God really really spoiled him

?????

Polygamy is not a sin. Although scripture clearly condemns polyandry (a woman having more than one husband, see Romans 7:2-3), nowhere does it condemn polygyny (or polygamy, a man having more than one wife). Both wicked men and righteous men were polygamous, and the Lord called neither to repent of it.

The only exception to this is for the king himself. For the king, God places a very general limit to the practice of polygamy:

14 "When you come to the land which the Lord your God is giving you, and possess it and dwell in it, and say, 'I will set a king over me like all the nations that are around me,' 15 you shall surely set a king over you whom the Lord your God chooses; one from among your brethren you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother. 16 But he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, for the Lord has said to you, 'You shall not return that way again.' 17 Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away; nor shall he greatly multiply silver and gold for himself. (Deuteronomy 17:14-17)

As for King David, he had at least eight wives and ten concubines (2 Samuel 3:14, 15:16; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9), yet he was not disobedient in doing so. As 1 Kings 15:5 says:

5 because David did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. (1 Kings 15:5)

King Solmon, on the other hand, did in fact breach Deuteronomy 17:17. He had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). Yet, even though Solomon obviously "[multiplied] wives for himself," the Lord condemns Solomon, in particular, for his marriage to foreign women (1 Kings 11:1-2; Deuteronomy 7:1-4) and the idolatry that resulted from these marriages (1 Kings 11:4). God does mention Solomon's multiple wives (1 Kings 11:3), but the focus of His anger is upon Solomon allowing himself to be seduced by his foreign wives (1 Kings 11:9-10). The problem was not how many wives he possessed, but rather the marriage to foreign women and how they seduced him into idolatry.

Here, in the context of polygamy, 1 Kings 11:6 notes:

6 Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and did not fully follow the Lord, as did his father David. (1 Kings 11:6)

So, even though David had at least eight wives and ten concubines, David fully followed the Lord.

Polygamy was part of David's life. He practiced it unrepentantly. Those who claim David sinned by practicing polygamy (for example, John MacArthur, and previous poster rauleetoe) are in reality proclaiming that David was of the devil, since 1 John 3:8 says "[h]e who sins is of the devil." On the contrary, David "behaved wisely in all his ways," (1 Samuel 18:14), "fully follow[ed] the Lord" (1 Kings 11:6), "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite" (1 Kings 15:5), and "walked in [God's] ways to do what is right in [His] eyes and keep [His] statutes and [His] judgments" (1 Kings 11:33).

14 And David behaved wisely in all his ways, and the Lord was with him. (1 Saumel 18:14)

33 because they have forsaken Me, and worshiped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the people of Ammon, and have not walked in My ways to do what is right in My eyes and keep My statutes and My judgments, as did his father David. (1 Kings 11:33)