When healing doesn't happen

reneweddaybyday · May 28, 2017

No matter what circumstance we find ourselves in, we have to remember that God is always near to us and it is in His presence that we have fullness of joy:

Psalm 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

Someone could find him/herself in the situation you find yourself and have fullness of joy and pleasures due to being in the presence of God.

On the other hand, someone could find him/herself in perfect health and yet be in despair because he/she is not in the presence of God.

Remember that God holds you close to His heart. Allow yourself to bask in His loving arms where His healing balm is applied to your heart and mind, no matter what you experience in your life.

Recall those verses in Scripture which tell us that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us (Rom 8:18) and that tell us our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory (2 Cor 4:17).

Keeping all these things in mind helps us through the times in life where we face the unimaginable. Keep your heart focused on God when you find yourself in those excruciatingly painful moments. He will continue to perform that good work in you until the day of Jesus Christ (Phil 1:6). That is something He works on the inside ... no matter what the outside looks / feels like.

Adstar · May 28, 2017

toinena said:

By knowing His will shall be done...

By trusting that His will is founded on perfect wisdom...

By accepting what ever may or may not come...

Oh and those ""friends ???"" who told you that you where possessed are headed for the Lake of fire if the Holy Spirit dwells within you.. I cannot express it more bluntly to people who throw such serious allegations around how much they are playing with fire... Don't ever accuse someone of being possessed if you do not KNOW they are possessed..

And as for sin.. Jesus healed sinners and the Apostles healed sinners.. Sin is not a block to being healed.. Disbelief and lack of Faith in the LORD Jesus Christ are..

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Gabriel2020 said:

Actually, I find that hard to believe, because it's not biblical. Most of the miracles in the Bible happened to believers, if it was even mentioned what current state the person was in at the time of healing.

This is just your excuse to pardon God, and he needs no excuse. Sometimes he heals. Most times he doesn't physically heal. If he healed every time we wouldn't need the word "miracle."

And as for his kids? He will bring all his kids to the point there will be no need for the word "health" anymore. His kids have already been healed of the source of the infection we call "sin." In heaven, there will be no source of sin, experience of sin, or source of bodily ailments. We were healed. We are healed. We may become physically healed in this body. We're guaranteed perfect health in the next one. No more pain, no more sorrow, no more sin.

Alleluia! Good plan on God's part. No excuses needed.

Depleted · May 28, 2017

toinena,
I just wanted you to know the other side of why those friends walked away. It had nothing to do with thinking you were wrong. It has everything to do with avoiding pain. Not your pain. Their pain. When you love someone who is slowly dying, it is painful to watch. You feel so utterly helpless. There are no words or actions to stop that, giving you only two choices -- stay with the person or walk away.

It takes a special person not to walk away. But please understand, it's not you. It's them. And they're not evil for it. It is pain.

Just like you'd walk away from pain if you had a choice, they walked away because they did have a choice.

I've let people go in my life because they could not take seeing me in this much pain, and I didn't have to make them hurt just because I do.

Christian71 · May 28, 2017

toinena said:

Toinena... When I read your story... IT BROKE MY HEART... You see I have two handicapped children Faith 38 and Travis 36... Faith is hard of hearing and Travis is deaf... Both have Cerebral Palsy and learning disorders... Though not experiencing what you are going through as a parent I understand... I have learned over the years being their advocate that some people are very cruel even those that call themselves Christian and those who lead them... Some have told me the reason your children are not healed is your and their lack of faith... My comment is well, my Bible doesn't say that... No matter what you think... Why does God heal some and not others?... I don't know... I lost my first wife to kidney cancer and my second wife got breast cancer but she is a survivor... Why did he take one and leave one?... I don't know... All we can do in this life is serve God and love each other and keep following Jesus and praying for healing... People who meet my children can tell they have an outward deformity but what about those you meet who have an inward one?... Why do some let their fears overcome their love?... I've learned over the years that most handicapped people (I hate that word I mean handy capable) are some of the most kind, considerate, loving, compassionate, helpful people on the face of this earth... I think we would look on those less fortunate than us if we woke up on morning and were in their shoes... It could happen and only God knows... Be that as it may I'm only speaking for myself never having been where you are... Remember your spirit is not bound and can follow and serve the Lord Jesus Christ where he leads you... I hope this gives you encouragement and to me personally you are a true illumination on this forum... K. James

toinena · May 28, 2017

Thank you all for your prayers and encouragement. I feel blessed. Yes. I think the only way coping with this, is to just follow Christ one step, one day at the time. I don't like to look too much to the future, the future is not bright. But I can be excited by what is behind the next turn when following Christ.

I just want to add one more comment from a "friend" I got in 1999. She said she didn't worry about praying for healing, because Jesus was going to return before I lost my ability to walk. Well... if walking 10 steps very slowly with support counts for walking, I can only say Amen. Come Lord Jesus. Until then, I'd better try to find myself some new friends. ;-)

MattforJesus · May 28, 2017

I believe that God will heal,and if He does not heal there is a purpose for it.

There was a purpose in Paul's life for not healing,when he was buffeted,and given a thorn in the flesh,so that he would not get exalted above measure,because God was working in his life mightily,and Paul asked for it to be taken away 3 times,but it was not,so Paul said,I will glory in my infirmities,for when I am weak,then I am strong.

My friend is in a wheelchair,muscular dystrophy,who loves God greatly,and has a sharp mind,and I play chess with him,and he is quite good.

But he is not healed,and why is that.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

God might not heal physically,but He gives a sound mind to all the saints.

So why do some not get healed,which a big one might be that God is keeping them humble.

But who would be a good witness to the world that has disabilities,in a wheelchair,bed ridden,poor health,but people with disabilities that can show them all is alright,with an upbeat attitude in the Lord,to show them the truth,and the love of God.

People with disabilities might reach the same easier than a person without a disability,for the one with the disability might say,that is easy for you to say,you are not confined to a wheelchair,but doing fine.

1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

This does not particularly mean weak as in an illness,but if we relate to people on their level,the more likely we can win them over to Christ,so maybe some people do not get healed to reach out to people in the same condition about Christ.

Now that might bother some people,because they will think why does it have to be me,and why do I have to sacrifice my life,and be confined to a wheelchair,having a disability,and cannot enjoy life as I would like,so I can reach the same,upset that their life has to be confined.

But I am only going over why some do not get healed,and it seems like that might be a reason to reach people with disabilities,but I do know that God might not heal to keep someone humble that is strong in the love of Jesus,so they will not go astray,as in the case of Paul,for God resists the proud,but gives grace unto the humble.

Billyd · May 28, 2017

toinena said:

I have a muscular dystrophy called Limb Girdle (LGMD2i), and I get just weaker and weaker. I have lost most of my ability to walk, my breathing is affected, arms and shoulders are getting weaker and now I can hardly lift anything. Back and abs are a chapter by them selves. I can't do what I am trained to do professionally, but have had to find another profession. I work, and I serve the Lord. I live alone with my beautiful service-dog and love my work, house and friends. I try to rejoice in the Lord, but sometimes life is just too tough to handle. The future terrifies me. I know I will get weaker and to be more dependent on care-givers... I really don't like the idea of facing that.

Anyway. I keep on praying for healing. And people pray for me. I have believed for healing numeral times. Over many years. I am convinced that this time it is going to happen. I have had Christian "friends" making me and my healing their project. When it doesn't happen, they leave. I have had other "friends" telling me I am possessed, and that's why healing doesn't happen. A preacher told I had sin in my life blocking the healing.

Yes. I am a sinner. And I repent my sins. And believe I am forgiven in Jesus' name.

I believe I will be healed. The question is when. It might not be before the day we get glorified bodies in the rapture or when God will take me home. But I have to live with faith and hope of healing. Otherwise I don't know how I could manage to go on. I am happy people are praying for me. But please don't blame me when it doesn't happen. It is not up to us how and when. We have to humble ourselves and just keep on serving, praying, praising and following Jesus. I need a wheelchair to do so, but still Jesus is the love of my life and I love to follow him.

I just wanted to know... how does other people in need of healing cope with not getting healed? And how should we respond when healing doesn't happen?

I have my go to scripture. When I am at my weakest points physically, I remember what Paul said in 2 Cointhians 12:9. But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 12:10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

toinena · May 28, 2017

MattforJesus said:

I believe that God will heal,and if He does not heal there is a purpose for it.

There was a purpose in Paul's life for not healing,when he was buffeted,and given a thorn in the flesh,so that he would not get exalted above measure,because God was working in his life mightily,and Paul asked for it to be taken away 3 times,but it was not,so Paul said,I will glory in my infirmities,for when I am weak,then I am strong.

My friend is in a wheelchair,muscular dystrophy,who loves God greatly,and has a sharp mind,and I play chess with him,and he is quite good.

But he is not healed,and why is that.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

God might not heal physically,but He gives a sound mind to all the saints.

So why do some not get healed,which a big one might be that God is keeping them humble.

But who would be a good witness to the world that has disabilities,in a wheelchair,bed ridden,poor health,but people with disabilities that can show them all is alright,with an upbeat attitude in the Lord,to show them the truth,and the love of God.

People with disabilities might reach the same easier than a person without a disability,for the one with the disability might say,that is easy for you to say,you are not confined to a wheelchair,but doing fine.

1Co 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

This does not particularly mean weak as in an illness,but if we relate to people on their level,the more likely we can win them over to Christ,so maybe some people do not get healed to reach out to people in the same condition about Christ.

Now that might bother some people,because they will think why does it have to be me,and why do I have to sacrifice my life,and be confined to a wheelchair,having a disability,and cannot enjoy life as I would like,so I can reach the same,upset that their life has to be confined.

But I am only going over why some do not get healed,and it seems like that might be a reason to reach people with disabilities,but I do know that God might not heal to keep someone humble that is strong in the love of Jesus,so they will not go astray,as in the case of Paul,for God resists the proud,but gives grace unto the humble.

Thank you. But one thing that goes against your point, strangely enough. God has not called me to work and witness to other disabled, but to muslims and refugees. That is not the point. But God can use even me, and that is a miracle in it self.

pottersclay · May 28, 2017

O my gosh saint, if I had half your strength, I'd be twice the man in Christ I am right now.
Sis I will be knocking on dad's door for you until my knuckles bleed.
Is there anything to hard for the Lord, no. I haven't got any answers for you saint but what I have I will give. I have hope and trust in th Lord, he is the God of the impossible, he is our strength, our deliverer. Hang on to that saint, don't be robbed of that joy. He will not forsake or leave you.

toinena · May 29, 2017

Billyd said:

I have my go to scripture. When I am at my weakest points physically, I remember what Paul said in 2 Cointhians 12:9. But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 12:10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

That is my favourite verse, too. Yes. It is good to be reminded about that. Thank you ❤️

Parker_teddy · May 29, 2017

I believe that healing comes by God and when you have not yet received then still believe it we come?

jb · May 29, 2017

For those interested you might find This (section 3) study helpful...

Ugly · May 29, 2017

toinena said:

I was saved into Pentecostal teachings. While i did not hear, personally, the things you have been told, i did hear such teachings, both by preachers and other Christians. I left the Pentecostal beliefs behind, but many years later i started having health problems. Even now i deal with health problems. I have come to the conclusion that healing is never promised to all believers. God can heal. And He does, according to His will. But it's not His will that everyone is healed. This has made things easier for me, by not spending my life waiting for something that may never happen. It's not a very popular belief to be held, and nearly every Christian i tell disagrees with me. But they also have no answer for people who never get healed.
So God may very well heal you, i don't know. It's not my decision haha.

popeye · May 29, 2017

There is a prayer called "the irrevocable prayer". Nothing,I mean nothing can stop it.

In order to see it,there are "dos" and "don'ts".

I saw it one time. Anyone can see it. It has to do with heavens protocol,faith,and the parable of persistent knocking.

When my dog got her miracle she was dying,but mat 18;18 through the prophetic over about a 2 month period moved that THING off of her. I will never forget it.

During that period, I gave up several times. The night of her miracle I had COMPLETELY given up. While she was sick ,in faith, I had a sign made declaring the COMPLETE DEFEAT of cushings disease and posted it in my front yard while she was dying.

At least twice I attempted to remove it in tears thinking I had to be the biggest fool on the planet.

I quoted Mat 18:18 and what it applied to my dog over that time frame till I was blue in the face. Probably close to a million times.

This is called going to bat for someone else. It ain't pretty,and it costs.

In the end it is as if I failed. She got her miracle,but I was ashamed of myself,and my lack of faith.

There is a realm no man knows. It is available,and I have seen it,but it is as if I know nothing about it,even though a dog,and my mother both got healed.

popeye · May 29, 2017

The dog was not healed from the irrevocable prayer,my mother was.

20 · May 31, 2017

The requirement for the healing;The first point,You must to believe KJVMark9:23 23.Jesus said into him,If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.,The second point,You need to talk with righteous person(to make a deep confession) and he or she going to pray for you KJVJames5:14-16 14.Is any sick among you? let him call for elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16.Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of righteous man availeth much.

pottersclay · May 31, 2017

20 said:

Requirements for healing, a person in need and a gracious God who wills it.

Brother please refrain from this way of thinking. Jesus healed by touching, speaking, mud pies, third party intervention. Going in the old testament, bathing, raising a staff, come on.
You do more harm than good with this type of response. Sure put the blame on the recipient if it doesn't work or on the person laying hands or praying? Shame on you and your religion.

samuel23 · May 31, 2017

I am no expert in this area, I have prayed for healing and have been healed and I have prayed for healing and I did not get a supernatural healing, however God was still with me. I have this thing in me that screams, God does not want us to be sick, so I do not agree with the idea that God wants us to be sick so we can witness to other sick people. On the other hand, a sick person can be a witness to other sick people. My advise would be to pray to God for healing and then try not to think about it, just live moment by moment for the Lord. I know this is somewhat unpopular to say, but the truth is that faith in God does play a major role in healing. Jesus actually spoke to me one time when I was praying for a healing and told me that it was my lack of faith that was keeping the healing from happening.

BeyondET · Jun 7, 2017

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