When Sin Becomes Good

[iwant2serve]

When does sin become ok with God? From what I have learned from the Bible there is no difference in sin, they may have different consequences but still called sin. Because of the stance I hold on a certian subject I am told that there is only one unforgivable sin, I hold a legalistic view or that is putting people under the law and not grace, so I decided to write a post on sin period.

If God called something a sin and you repent of the sin can you continue to do that and it becomes good to God even if society says it is ok? I understand that God will forgive all of our sins and cleanse us from unrighteousness but can you continue to do that and say I am under grace not law? For instance If I stole a car and ask for forgiveness is the car now mine? If I lied and conned someone into giving me something is that now mine? If I murder and ask for forgiveness can I continue to murder and this be ok?

Some will read this and know that I am talking about remarriage and no adultry has been commited. This a sensitive topic that keeps coming up so I ask, is what God calls adultry because you repent ok to stay in that marriage. Is this somehow a different kind of sin that is ok after repentence?

 

[sparkman]

Do you really think God would have an intact family to separate because one of the marriage partners was previously married and divorced incorrectly prior to conversion?

By the way I belonged to a cult which enforced that legalistic view until the founder decided that he wanted to marry a previously divorced woman. Funny how the law changed so quickly after that.

This is the same view I've presented in the chat room when this topic comes up, which is usually about once a week depending on how often you want to bring it up to debate it. Same old argument over and over again

 

[3Scoreand10]

Divorce is sin. Don't sin AGAIN by another devorce that destroys the lives of children.

 

[iwant2serve]

Do you really think God would have an intact family to separate because one of the marriage partners was previously married and divorced incorrectly prior to conversion?

By the way I belonged to a cult which enforced that legalistic view until the founder decided that he wanted to marry a previously divorced woman. Funny how the law changed so quickly after that.

This is the same view I've presented in the chat room when this topic comes up, which is usually about once a week depending on how often you want to bring it up to debate it. Same old argument over and over again

Well it does not matter if he compromised his view the Bible is clear on what it says. Do you think God will change his mind about what he called sin?

 

[iwant2serve]

Divorce is sin. Don't sin AGAIN by another devorce that destroys the lives of children.

You cannot find in the Bible where divorce is called a sin. If you do please show it to me.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I believe Sparkman makes a good point about whether or not it is prior to conversion, verses remarriage after conversion. Listen to what Paul says here.....

1 Corinthians 7:20-28[SUP]20 [/SUP]Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you."

Paul does not specifically mention remarriage in the above, but he does say seek not to be loosed if you are bound to a wife when you are called. So it leaves room for interpretation if the above covers remarriage.

 

[notuptome]

Divorce and remarriage are going to be difficult issues especially today. God never condoned divorce. Scripture does warn that remarriage creates an adultery issue.

I feel for those who are in these kinds of situations. I have known folks who have remarried and are fine Christians. They are disqualified from certain ministries in the church.

There are doubtless times when divorce cannot be avoided. There are times when remarriage produces a good outcome. I would that folks remarry rather than live together. I say we have compassion on those who are in these situations and endeavor to help them. If they continue to have issues and have multiple divorces then I have a problem. There is a greater probability of a second divorce than the first divorce.

In the matter of marriage we need to seek Gods leading and not always jump to our own conclusions so quickly.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Stephen63]

I'm gonna throw a scenario out. Now, if a couple marries before salvation, it's considered ok by all to remain married, whether they hold positions in church or not.

What happens to a young christian who marries a divorced person who got saved after his/her divorce? They thought it was ok, had good intentions, but wasn't properly educated in the Word? Should they divorce?

In legalism, it's a catch-22 situation..... the couple is sinning for being married, but will ALSO be sinning if they get another divorce if adultery isn't the reason why.

Some sin can be forgiven I believe when there's no way to fix the issue..... Murder, for instance, cannot be undone, yet a murderer can be forgiven.

Something else..... IF we forgive the couple who married before conversion & let them stay married & judge a christian couple to divorce because they did the same thing, we show ourselves as a respecter of persons & holding a double standard. You simply can't do that.

Now if a christian couple with this issue is bearing fruits of righteousness, their fruits are evidence that they are accepted of God. I have no authority to mess with that.

We HAVE been given a commandment to forgive people their trespasses or we won't be forgiven..... So I would recommend forgiving all equally.

 

[p_rehbein]

oh boy............here we go.........sigh

 

[3Scoreand10]

You cannot find in the Bible where divorce is called a sin. If you do please show it to me.

Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

 

[iwant2serve]

Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

That is not saying divorce is a sin. In 1 cor 7 it says that a wife is not to leave her husband and neither is the husband to put away his wife, but if they do to remain unmarried.
The divorce is not the sin the remarrying without the reasons the Bible gives is the sin.

 

[iwant2serve]

I'm gonna throw a scenario out. Now, if a couple marries before salvation, it's considered ok by all to remain married, whether they hold positions in church or not.

In legalism, it's a catch-22 situation..... the couple is sinning for being married, but will ALSO be sinning if they get another divorce if adultery isn't the reason why.

The divorce is not the sin the remarriage is the sin. Now how can what God called adultry that is put away be commiting another sin?

 

[p_rehbein]

The divorce is not the sin the remarriage is the sin. Now how can what God called adultry that is put away be commiting another sin?

Ok, I'll open up this can of worms a wee bit..............I'm looking at your Avatar Picture and I see a man and a woman who appear to be in a Church Sanctuary, and the woman appears to have a microphone in her hand.

Are you aware of what the Apostle Paul said about women keeping silence in church?

 

[tourist]

Ok, I'll open up this can of worms a wee bit..............I'm looking at your Avatar Picture and I see a man and a woman who appear to be in a Church Sanctuary, and the woman appears to have a microphone in her hand.

Are you aware of what the Apostle Paul said about women keeping silence in church?

It is also possible that she is the caller for the weekly bingo games.

 

[p_rehbein]

It is also possible that she is the caller for the weekly bingo games.

Hmm, well, didn't think of that.........

B-4 the fall

Adam and Eve played Bingo didn't they?

 

[psychomom]

It is also possible that she is the caller for the weekly bingo games.

this guy.

he cracks me up every time.

 

[iwant2serve]

Ok, I'll open up this can of worms a wee bit..............I'm looking at your Avatar Picture and I see a man and a woman who appear to be in a Church Sanctuary, and the woman appears to have a microphone in her hand.

Are you aware of what the Apostle Paul said about women keeping silence in church?

So w aoman cannot talk in the church?

 

[Budman]

You cannot find in the Bible where divorce is called a sin. If you do please show it to me.

" 'For I hate divorce,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with wrong,” says the Lord of hosts. “So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously.' ” (Malachi 2:16)

Can what God hates not be a sin?

 

[tourist]

Hmm, well, didn't think of that.........

B-4 the fall

Adam and Eve played Bingo didn't they?

You are an extremely clever an amusing fellow. I'm not at all sure if Adam and Eve played Bingo but they did, in fact, play.

 

[blue_ladybug]

1.) There's no such thing as "a GOOD sin." All sin is bad.

2.) Sin is NEVER "okay with God." If it were, we could sin all we want and not get in trouble for it.