Where Does a Heretic go After God's Judgment?
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tragically, i suspect that probably he specifically means someone who doesn't agree that the earth is flat. am sure he'd deny that... well actually i figure he'd just dodge it & be evasive about answering the question. that's what happened with the last poll he put, very similar to this one. over a dozen times he was asked to specify what he was talking about or had in mind and he refused to even give an example.
even if i'm wrong about that ulterior motive, it's still tragic that the history of what he's passionate about gives me that impression. as i tried to point out to him & a couple others, as a believer, if you align yourself strongly with ridiculous deceits, it can damage your testimony in other legitimate matters. so besides the simple matter of "truth" - there are persuasive, practical reasons for us to stay away from kooky, highly suspect & indefensible theories.
even if i'm wrong about that ulterior motive, it's still tragic that the history of what he's passionate about gives me that impression. as i tried to point out to him & a couple others, as a believer, if you align yourself strongly with ridiculous deceits, it can damage your testimony in other legitimate matters. so besides the simple matter of "truth" - there are persuasive, practical reasons for us to stay away from kooky, highly suspect & indefensible theories.
Heaven of course!
A heretic is someone who believes or teaches something that goes against accepted or official beliefs. Let us reason for a bit. Catholics believe Mary was born without sin. I believe the Scriptures where the Holy Spirit says all have sinned, even Mary.
Which makes me a heretic. Does this mean i now will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire?
Another way to look at this, if i believe just the opposite of what you believe then that makes me a heretic?
You are very unclear. You have muddied the waters. Being a heretic does not put one in Hell or the Lake of Fire. If it did then Martin Luther, John Calvin and others will be in Hell because they taught the Truth the Catholic Church rejected.
You first need to define what exactly is a heretic!
A heretic is someone who believes or teaches something that goes against accepted or official beliefs. Let us reason for a bit. Catholics believe Mary was born without sin. I believe the Scriptures where the Holy Spirit says all have sinned, even Mary.
Which makes me a heretic. Does this mean i now will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire?
Another way to look at this, if i believe just the opposite of what you believe then that makes me a heretic?
You are very unclear. You have muddied the waters. Being a heretic does not put one in Hell or the Lake of Fire. If it did then Martin Luther, John Calvin and others will be in Hell because they taught the Truth the Catholic Church rejected.
You first need to define what exactly is a heretic!
if you hadn't noticed yet, in what i assume must be that "other thread" you were talking about, Spherical got himself banned after making several off-color, anti-protestant comments and calling himself catholic.
honestly, i don't think this guy actually knew the first thing about catholicism, any more than he really had put much thought into the whole flat earth thing, or any of the other conspiracies or false prophesies he posted during his brief time here.
he introduced himself when he joined by saying he had recently gone through a lot of personal problems that must have presented him with a lot of stress, and i think he kind of snapped under the weight of it, turning to various things for solace and to establish himself as "right" and "better than -" or "smarter than -" or "knowing more than -" etc -- things to prop himself up, massaging a hurt ego and broken heart. there's a consistent air of superiority combined with overall shallowness in all these things that he aligned himself with, a sort of self-justification but a lack of depth of thought & fully explored implication or rationale. so he was evasive on deeper questioning.
i feel for him, and hope for him that he would turn to Jesus, and lay that broken spirit and heart of his at the Master's feet, to be redeemed. i think this guy has really been going through a lot of emotional & mental anguish that he just can't cope with, and we became witness to a breakdown.
my intuition is that catholicism is just one more thing he saw something in that appealed to him, and so picked it up and applied it to himself like it was a sticker. i doubt that a month ago he ever would have said he was catholic.
so -- bye bye, nutcase. my prayer is for you, that you would leave off all these things that cannot satisfy, and turn to the only One who can!
V
while each faith tradition has its own definition of what a heretic is, in a broad sense it is anyone who denies an essential doctrine of the faith. Each faith tradition has its own essentials and so there is no universal definition for heresy. Each faith tradition sees other traditions as heretical in some way or they would not be separated from one another.
If heretics are going to hell then I would suggest we all put on sunscreen.
for an example let's use fundamentalism five essentials of the faith:
1. Biblical inspiration and the infallibility of scripture.
2. Virgin birth of Jesus.
3. Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
4. Bodily resurrection of Jesus.
5. Historical reality of the miracles of Jesus.
for a fundalmentalist denial of anyone of these essentials would classify one as a heretic.
just a thought
If heretics are going to hell then I would suggest we all put on sunscreen.
for an example let's use fundamentalism five essentials of the faith:
1. Biblical inspiration and the infallibility of scripture.
2. Virgin birth of Jesus.
3. Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
4. Bodily resurrection of Jesus.
5. Historical reality of the miracles of Jesus.
for a fundalmentalist denial of anyone of these essentials would classify one as a heretic.
just a thought
Where does a Heretic go after God's Judgement?
Consider this: If it was not for heretics like Luther, Calvin, The Wesleys or George Fox(and myriad others since) then the branches of Christianity that I suspect most people here probably attend would of been strangled at birth and the Western(christian) nations would be as bankrupt and barbaric as the nations of the middle east.
Ask the question again "Where does a Heretic go after God's Judgement?"
With luck the answer is not quite so easy to answer.
Heretic
Consider this: If it was not for heretics like Luther, Calvin, The Wesleys or George Fox(and myriad others since) then the branches of Christianity that I suspect most people here probably attend would of been strangled at birth and the Western(christian) nations would be as bankrupt and barbaric as the nations of the middle east.
Ask the question again "Where does a Heretic go after God's Judgement?"
With luck the answer is not quite so easy to answer.
Heretic