Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

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epostle

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Who was she calling Jesus? Seeing that the Pope claims to be God on earth? If she was unsure that God existed..then she really never understood salvation and by Whom if her autobiography is correct. I am sure that she had ample opportunity to read the scriptures of the real Bible and not the papal doctrines. No one here is saying that all Catholics are bad people..its the Papal System that is demonic...what do you really know about Rome's history and its unspeakable acts against Christians who stood up against the corruption in the church of Rome and its false doctrines?
99% of what you think the Catholic Church teaches is false. For example, the Pope claims to be God on earth? is anti-Catholic bigotry and hate speech, not to mention plain stupid. I've seen those "Bible-Christian" sites that make this false claim, too bad you have been so easily deceived.
 
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epostle

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A Protestant review of Mother Teresa. Come Be My Light: The Private Writings of the Saint of Calcutta.

Mother Teresa wanted the letters that make up most of this book destroyed, and it is easy to understand why. They contain an intimate picture of the heart and soul of one of the most remarkable people of the twentieth century, and it is a picture that contradicts her cheerful outward demeanor and shocked her closest friends. At times I felt uneasy while reading this book, wondering if I, too, had become privy to something that should never have been revealed to the public. But the inner portrait of Mother Teresa that emerges in the pages of this book offers several meaningful lessons to the reader who approaches it with an open mind and heart.

There were three things about Mother Teresas inner world that especially impressed me. The first was her great love for God and for lost and hurting people. Mother Teresa had a passionate love for God that motivated her throughout her life: I want to love Him as He has never been loved before—with a tender,personal, intimate love(263). Because of this great love, she promised God that she would never refuse him anything he asked of her. She also had a deep love for human souls. Taking Jesuswords I thirst!on the cross as a statement of his thirst for the lost souls of the world, Mother Teresa and her Missionaries of Charities dedicated themselves to satiating this thirst of Jesus for the lost.

The second impressive fact about Mother Teresas inner world was the terrible darkness that engulfed her for most of her life. Ever since God called her to form her special Missionaries of Charity work, she was filled with an inner darkness that left her feeling totally alone and alienated from God. With the help of her confessing priests she gradually began to see this darkness as a dark night of the soul that enabled her to identify more completely with the darkness and alienation of the people to whom she ministered. It was a sharing in the sufferings of Christ, including the suffering he experienced in the awful plight of the unloved and unwanted sufferers Mother Teresa cared for. This darkness was the more intense and unbearable precisely because her love and her desire for fellowship with Jesus were so strong.

The third impressive part of Mother Teresas inner life revealed in this book is how she accepted the darkness and pain within her. There were indeed times when she thought the darkness was more than she could bear, times when she prayed desperately for healing and relief. But she learned to accept the darkness without allowing it to impede her work. Her determination is expressed beautifully in these words: The greater the pain and darker the darkness the sweeter will be my smile at God(222). Writing to a friend, she expresses her understanding of suffering in a dramatic way: Sorrow, suffering,Eileen, is but a kiss of Jesus—a sign that you have come so close to Jesus that He can kiss you.—I think this is the most beautiful definition of suffering(281). And at another point she confesses: The joy of loving Jesus comes from the joy of sharing in His sufferings(300). Mother Teresa thus came to accept her suffering as a necessary part of her mission and calling, a blessing and a sign of Gods favor to her. She finally experienced it as a necessary part of her mission to the poor, but her outward cheerfulness and energy concealed this inner darkness from even her closest friends.

Mother Teresas inner life presents a powerful challenge to every Protestant American. Her passionate love for her Savior, a love that led her willingly to embrace a life of self-denial and sacrificial care to the dregs of society challenges us all to reexamine our lifestyles and our priorities. And her intense inner darkness crashes head-on with the cult of self-fulfillment that characterizes so much of our thinking. How often do we claim that obedience and service lead to satisfaction and happiness? What about a gospel that promises deliverance from suffering and healing of our minds and hearts? How can this gospel square with the experience of Mother Teresa? If anyone deserved a happy and fulfilled life, it was Mother Teresa. Yet she lived most of her life concealing a wretched emptiness and darkness that would have brought a lesser person to despair.Even if Protestants cannot entirely embrace the Roman Catholic teachings about how Christians can and must share in the continuing suffering of Christ in this world, we cannot pretend that our traditional and popular Protestant theology has all the answers. We at least need to re-examine the nature of our experience in this world and the role that suffering has in obedient Christian living. If the purpose of a good book is to inspire us and challenge the way we think and live, then this account of Mother Teresas inner life is one of the best I have read in years.
Review of Mother Teresa's Come Be My Light








 

WebersHome

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Note the grammatical tense of the "have" verb in the passages below. It's
present tense rather than future, indicating that Christ's believing followers
all have eternal life now-- no delay, and no waiting period.

†. John 3:36 . . He who believes in the Son has eternal life

†. John 6:47 . .Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.

†. John 6:54 . . Anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal
life

†. John 5:24 . . I assure you, those who heed my message and trust in God
who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins,
but they have already passed from death into life.

†. 1John 5:13 . .I write these things to you who believe in the name of the
Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

The possession of eternal life is very crucial because according to God's
testimony, as an expert witness in all matters pertaining to life and death;
people who lack eternal life also lack God's son. In other words: people
without eternal life are quite christless.

†. 1John 5:11-12 . . This is what God has testified: He has given us eternal
life, and this life is in His son. So whoever has God's son has this life; and
whosoever does not have this life, does not have His son.

How many christless Christians are there? Well; for starters: Roman
Catholicism currently consists of approximately 1.23 Billion followers who all,
to a man, including the Pope, insist that no one obtains eternal life till
sometime after they pass away.

Well; that can mean but one thing, and one thing only. Seeing as how
Roman Catholics lack eternal life, then according to God's expert testimony;
Mother Teresa lived without Christ, and she passed away without Christ.
Bottom line: Teresa was a christless missionary.

Well; no wonder the poor woman complained about never feeling the slightest
glimmer of the Lord's presence. She was like a blind man in a dark room
looking for a black cat that isn't there.

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Hepzibah

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To understand the role of suffering in the believers life, we need to use scripture and not our own imaginations and notions. It is set out in the book of Job, for those who are in an advanced state of service; those who are truly dedicated to Christ and have died to self.

The Protestant View quoted at #82, shows a vast misunderstanding of the work it cited by St John of the Cross, and even did not quantify that The Dark Night has two phases; that of the soul, and the much more terrible night of the spirit.

If they had studied the work at all they would know that it is a phase advanced believers go through, not abide in where all dependence on the flesh are purged until the believed has joy and peace whatever the circumstances, and more importantly, without any conscious presence of God. This is the suffering that Job endured: that he knew he had not deserved darkness and when he cried out to God to show him whether he had in fact erred as his so called friends claimed, there was no reply which plunged him into the crisis of despair and confusion.

But this period of darkness and intense suffering had an end and when it came, joy and peace were restored. This has nothing to do with Theresa's emptiness. Here was of a person who had never encountered the living Christ although she desired to help others in her twisted way of letting them suffer pain when it could easily have been relieved.

She was venerated and 3even worshipped in her life which is not the mark of an advanced saint, who like Job suffers rejection and insult like his Master. Sadly, the world only sees through worldly eyes.
 
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Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Sending a prayer to Mary is Idolatry.

Praying to Mary is Idolatry.

Asking Mary to pray for you is Idolatry.

Saying the Hail Mary is Idolatry.

Praying the Rosary is Idolatry.

All who practice Idolatry cannot inherit the Kingdom of God!

Mother Teresa will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire along with Satan and his angels.
 
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99% of what you think the Catholic Church teaches is false. For example, the Pope claims to be God on earth? is anti-Catholic bigotry and hate speech, not to mention plain stupid. I've seen those "Bible-Christian" sites that make this false claim, too bad you have been so easily deceived.


So who is the man of sin in Thessalonians who sits in the seat of God thinking that he is God? Can you honestly answer this question? I am not trying to tear down Catholics..but trying to get you to do a true search of the history of Rome and its church.

Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:4


I can only tell you what the Bible says about this as well as history. R you therefore denying the Word of God? Don't look at the sites..but do a history check..and you will see for yourself.
 
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She is dead and God will Judge.
so lets worry about people that still have their probation open, We can talk about her all we want but it want change the outcome. ONLY God can judge her outcome.
On the contrary, many people on this site and beyond struggle with their faith; much can be learned by studying MT and talking about her struggles. And through it all we should pray for such people that God will open their eyes to His glorious Truth in Jesus Christ.
 
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She has been in the news recently over the canonization process.
Mother Teresa lived an exemplary life in Christ. She was/is a saint. Evil hates what is good. That is why there is so much noise.
Can you live an exemplary life in Christ if you do not have faith in Christ?
 
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How can you say epostle, that Mother Teresa lived an exemplary life in Christ when Mother Teresa Worship Mary as her god?

Do you not know epostle, that all those who follow Mary can never enter into Heaven?

The reason for Mother Teresa terrible darkness that engulfed her for most of her life was because she Worshiped Mary as her god.

If she had only turned to God instead she would have enjoyed the light with God. As it was because she rejected God for Mary is why she was in such darkness.
 
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Well, if Christ really was her husband, then he sure was a failure at it. One
of Teresa's complaints was that she never experienced even a glimmer of
the Lord's presence, and because of that she referred to him as the "absent
one".

According to the Bible, husbands are supposed to love their wives. A man
who never spends any time with his wife hardly qualifies as a husband that
loves her.

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How often to any of us feel Christ is not with us, even though the Word says He never leaves us or forsakes us? That sure does not make the Lord a failure at anything.
 

epostle

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To understand the role of suffering in the believers life, we need to use scripture and not our own imaginations and notions. It is set out in the book of Job, for those who are in an advanced state of service; those who are truly dedicated to Christ and have died to self.

The Protestant View quoted at #82, shows a vast misunderstanding of the work it cited by St John of the Cross, and even did not quantify that The Dark Night has two phases; that of the soul, and the much more terrible night of the spirit.
The reviewer is not writing about St. John of the Cross. I think the review is objective and fair minded. If you don't like a review from a Protestant you won't like anything.

If they had studied the work at all they would know that it is a phase advanced believers go through, not abide in where all dependence on the flesh are purged until the believed has joy and peace whatever the circumstances, and more importantly, without any conscious presence of God. This is the suffering that Job endured: that he knew he had not deserved darkness and when he cried out to God to show him whether he had in fact erred as his so called friends claimed, there was no reply which plunged him into the crisis of despair and confusion.

But this period of darkness and intense suffering had an end and when it came, joy and peace were restored. This has nothing to do with Theresa's emptiness. Here was of a person who had never encountered the living Christ although she desired to help others in her twisted way of letting them suffer pain when it could easily have been relieved.

She was venerated and 3even worshipped in her life which is not the mark of an advanced saint, who like Job suffers rejection and insult like his Master. Sadly, the world only sees through worldly eyes.
I think you look at Mother Teresa through worldly eyes. She encountered the living Christ with every person she met, especially the poor and abandoned. She never let anyone suffer when it could be relieved, that is the rantings of atheists making that false charge, and you bought it. Do you have any idea what conditions were like in a place like Calcutta? I want to move on to scripture because it seems to me Protestants have no clue what Jesus and Paul taught about suffering:

Matt. 10:38 - Jesus said, "he who does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me." Jesus defines discipleship as one's willingness to suffer with Him. Being a disciple of Jesus not only means having faith in Him, but offering our sufferings to the Father as He did.

Matt. 16:24; Mark 8:34 - Jesus said, "if any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." Jesus wants us to empty ourselves so that God can fill us. When we suffer, we can choose to seek consolation in God and become closer to Jesus.

Luke 9:23 - Jesus says we must take up this cross daily. He requires us to join our daily temporal sacrifices (pain, inconvenience, worry) with His eternal sacrifice.

1 Cor. 1:23- Paul preaches a Christ crucified, not just risen. Catholic spirituality focuses on the sacrifice of Christ which is the only means to the resurrection. This is why Catholic churches have crucifixes with the corpus of Jesus affixed to them. Many Protestant churches no longer display the corpus of Jesus (only an empty cross). Thus, they only preach a Christ risen, not crucified.

1 Cor. 2:2 - Paul preaches Jesus Christ and Him crucified. While the cross was the scandal of scandals, and is viewed by the non-Christian eye as defeat, Catholic spirituality has always exalted the paradox of the cross as the true tree of life and our means to salvation.

2 Cor. 1:5-7- if we share abundantly in Christ's sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort as well. If we unite our sufferings with His, we will be comforted by Him.

Phil. 1:29 - for the sake of Christ we are not only to believe in Him but also to suffer for His sake. Growing in holiness requires more than having faith in God and accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior. We must also willfully embrace the suffering that befalls us as part of God's plan. Thus, Christ does not want our faith alone, but our faith in action which includes faith in suffering.

Phil. 3:10 - Paul desires to share in Christ's sufferings in order to obtain the resurrection. Paul recognizes the efficacy of suffering as a means of obtaining holiness which leads to resurrection and eternal life. There is no Easter Sunday without Good Friday.

Col. 1:24 - Paul rejoices in his sufferings and completes what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body. This proves the Catholic position regarding the efficacy of suffering. Is there something lacking in Christ's sufferings? Of course not. But because Jesus loves us so much, He allows us to participate in His redemptive suffering by leaving room in His mystical body for our own suffering. Our suffering, united with our Lord's suffering, furthers the work of His redemption.

Phil. 1:29 - for the sake of Christ we are not only to believe in Him but also to suffer for His sake. Growing in holiness requires more than having faith in God and accepting Jesus as personal Lord and Savior. We must also willfully embrace the suffering that befalls us as part of God's plan. Thus, Christ does not want our faith alone, but our faith in action which includes faith in suffering.

Phil. 3:10 - Paul desires to share in Christ's sufferings in order to obtain the resurrection. Paul recognizes the efficacy of suffering as a means of obtaining holiness which leads to resurrection and eternal life. There is no Easter Sunday without Good Friday.

Col. 1:24 - Paul rejoices in his sufferings and completes what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of His body. This proves the Catholic position regarding the efficacy of suffering. Is there something lacking in Christ's sufferings? Of course not. But because Jesus loves us so much, He allows us to participate in His redemptive suffering by leaving room in His mystical body for our own suffering. Our suffering, united with our Lord's suffering, furthers the work of His redemption.

These concepts from scripture are absent from Protestant theology and practice, which may explain why Mother Teresa is so grossly misunderstood.


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How often to any of us feel Christ is not with us, even though the Word says He never leaves us or forsakes us? That sure does not make the Lord a failure at anything.

God want us as honestly as we can be with Him....even when our faith is shaken or doubt creeps in....He wants us as truthfully as we can be. Is God offended by our doubt and fear...does He throw you in the garbage because you struggle with belief? God would be a little God and not worth worshipping if He is or does. This whole MT debate is absolutely nonsensical and pointless to me. If you lie to Him in your quiet moments... He doesn't know you because you are afraid to let HIM.
 

Hepzibah

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The reviewer is not writing about St. John of the Cross.
The phrase 'dark night of the soul' is from St John's writings and originated from him. Anything written by the CC and refering to the dark night are about St John's writings. I agree that Protestantism does not have a doctrine of suffering but I am not a Protestant nor a Catholic.

Here is part one of a set of videos about Theresa. People can watch and make their own minds up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60&feature=youtu.be

And another:

Children suffer despite millions in aid! | MadMikesAmerica
 

PTH

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Matt.12:37 Jesus says For by thy words thou shall be justified, and by thy words thou shall be condemn.
 

epostle

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The phrase 'dark night of the soul' is from St John's writings and originated from him. Anything written by the CC and refering to the dark night are about St John's writings. I agree that Protestantism does not have a doctrine of suffering but I am not a Protestant nor a Catholic.

Here is part one of a set of videos about Theresa. People can watch and make their own minds up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60&feature=youtu.be

And another:

Children suffer despite millions in aid! | MadMikesAmerica
Funny how the atheists are in league with the fundamentalists who want to mug an old lady.

They spit on Jesus too.

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epostle

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Can you live an exemplary life in Christ if you do not have faith in Christ?
That is a rhetorical question. Not having faith in Christ does not necessitate rejection either. "Not having faith in Christ" needs definition, as it could mean never hearing the Gospel. In that I would include never perceiving the Gospel. People hear the Pope from the media everyday but few actually perceive what he says. But I digress...
I think there are a lot of good people in the world who come close to living a Christ like life, who never heard/perceived the Gospel, but I can't see how they can become exemplary without the means that Christ gave us.
 
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There are no "good people" in the World. Everyone is a sinner even Mother Teresa.

Salvation is received by Faith epostle! If you have no Faith you have no Salvation!

Ephesians 2:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not of works, lest anyone should boast.

God has shown EVERYBODY the Gospel.

Romans 1:18-19
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

Everybody, even Mother Teresa knew the Truth about God but rejected God for Mary instead.

Romans 1:20-23
[SUP]20 [/SUP] For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Professing to be wise, they became fools,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

You are without excuse epostle. Mother Teresa was also without excuse epostle and both of you will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire for Worshiping Mary as your god.
 
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On the surface, Mother Teresa's emptiness and lack of consolation appear shocking, but in reality she was experiencing what Catholic spirituality describes as “the dark night of the soul.” There is no question that to suffer this for a 40-year period must have been a terrible trial. What it says is that this saintly nun, so dedicated to others, also bore a gigantic cross that only increased her holiness and union with God.
Unfortunately, as many posts this on this thread proves, some people who don’t know the theology or language of the spiritual life reacted by calling Mother Teresa a fake, a pretender or even a liar.

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How can Mother Teresa be a True Christian when Mary was her god? Every person who follows Mary will never inherit the Kingdom of God.

Read the Scriptures fordman. Do you see any Disciples or Apostles going through a 40 year period of despair? NO!

Philippians 4:4-7
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

God has told us to Rejoice in Him!

For Mother Teresa to be in darkness for 40 years proves Jesus was NOT her Savior!