Which Church Are We? Which Church Am I?

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wattie

wattie

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pottersclay said:
Local body? Please explain....
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I'd be happy to :)

Have a look at 1 Corinthians 12

This is where you see the body of Christ.

Note the words associated with it.. 'fitly framed', 'where one member suffers all suffer with it', 'how can the eye say to the ear you are not part of me' etc..

These are terms associated with 'body' as an assembled, united, framed together, 'where one member suffers all suffer with it' .. LOCAL unit.

This passage isn't about Jesus' resurrected body, or His physical body btw.

'The church' IS the body of Christ.

'The church' = ecclesia.

Ecclessia- - according to many scholars is always about a local meeting, gathering or assembly.

One scholar put it that 'if it either loses the idea of assembling, meeting together, it ceases to be 'the church'


Every believer.. would a 'unassembled'.. NOT 'fit together' NOT 'framed together' .. if 'one member suffers, all DO NOT suffer with it.. etc..

Again.. every believer will ONE day be one church in heaven.. one body then.

But not NOW! Not yet..

The body of Christ is the church.. this is talking about a local assembly of saved, baptised believers.. whether in reference to Antioch, Corinth, Phillipi, Thesselonica etc.

The clincher?

'Ye are the body of Christ' in 1 Corinthians 12

The YE is the church at Corinth.
 
Grace777x70

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When Saul was persecuting the church in Jerusalem and other places and on his way to Damascus to do the same for the believers there - Jesus said. "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?"

Persecuting any believer - either by speaking against them or by other means is really persecuting Jesus Himself because we are His body.
 
GandalfTheWhite

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We are in the last church. The church op peoples' opinions.
 
MessageOfTheCross

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MessageOfTheCross said:
According to Our Savior Lord Jesus Christ, every born again Christian is found in one of these seven churches in the book of Revelation. Jesus says I no your deeds. It appears five out of every seven Christians will not be "Raptured. Your thoughts.

Revelation 1 - Revelation 2 - Revelation 3

1) Ephesus (Revelation 2:1-7) - the church that had forsaken its first love (2:4).

(2) Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-11) - the church that would suffer persecution (2:10).

(3) Pergamum (Revelation 2:12-17) - the church that needed to repent (2:16).

(4) Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-29) - the church that had a false prophetess (2:20).

(5) Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6) - the church that had fallen asleep (3:2).

(6) Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7-13) - the church that had endured patiently (3:10).

(7) Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22) - the church with the lukewarm faith (3:16).



Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-churches-Revelation.html#ixzz3dHevR4eq
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I believe the LORD is saying, "Put your house in order!"
 
Bladerunner

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MessageOfTheCross said:
According to Our Savior Lord Jesus Christ, every born again Christian is found in one of these seven churches in the book of Revelation. Jesus says I no your deeds. It appears five out of every seven Christians will not be "Raptured. Your thoughts.

Revelation 1 - Revelation 2 - Revelation 3

1) Ephesus (Revelation 2:1-7) - the church that had forsaken its first love (2:4).

(2) Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-11) - the church that would suffer persecution (2:10).

(3) Pergamum (Revelation 2:12-17) - the church that needed to repent (2:16).

(4) Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-29) - the church that had a false prophetess (2:20).

(5) Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6) - the church that had fallen asleep (3:2).

(6) Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7-13) - the church that had endured patiently (3:10).

(7) Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22) - the church with the lukewarm faith (3:16).



Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-churches-Revelation.html#ixzz3dHevR4eq
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The Bible tells us that multitudes will be save after the rapture, before the tribulations and during the tribulations.

"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"" Rev. 7: 9-10
 
followjesus

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MessageOfTheCross said:
According to Our Savior Lord Jesus Christ, every born again Christian is found in one of these seven churches in the book of Revelation. Jesus says I no your deeds. It appears five out of every seven Christians will not be "Raptured. Your thoughts.

Revelation 1 - Revelation 2 - Revelation 3

1) Ephesus (Revelation 2:1-7) - the church that had forsaken its first love (2:4).

(2) Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-11) - the church that would suffer persecution (2:10).

(3) Pergamum (Revelation 2:12-17) - the church that needed to repent (2:16).

(4) Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-29) - the church that had a false prophetess (2:20).

(5) Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6) - the church that had fallen asleep (3:2).

(6) Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7-13) - the church that had endured patiently (3:10).

(7) Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22) - the church with the lukewarm faith (3:16).



Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/seven-churches-Revelation.html#ixzz3dHevR4eq
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7 often reperesents completeness. there is one church, One lord, one faith, one baptism. the church is the Body of Christ on earth, meaning any and all who have thier faith firm in Christ Jesus, any of the seven letters are for the church. ( Just my view though) hope you figure out your dilemma
 
nowyouseem033

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If we accept that there is no perfect church on this side of eternity, the letter to the seven churches becomes a warning to all churches everywhere today.
 
MessageOfTheCross

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Bladerunner said:
The Bible tells us that multitudes will be save after the rapture, before the tribulations and during the tribulations.

"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"" Rev. 7: 9-10
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Amen. The summer is near. The Fig Tree is putting forth leaves (Israel became a nation in 1948). The Fig Tree before 1948 produced nothing. Israel is God's prophetic time clock; looking at Israel, we now know that summer is near, i.e., "the Endtime Prophecies are about to be fulfilled"). Mark 13:28-30
 
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