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THEY ARE THOSE GOD HAS CHOSEN. NOW. HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT. MAKE SURE THESE APPLY TO YOU, if not... STOP ALL PLEASURE AND READ THE Gospel even fast and pray and keep seeking God and forsake the pleasures of sin and DO NOT LOVE THE WORLD OR ANYTHING IN IT or the love of the Father is not in you.
[FONT="]•John 17:21 - Jesus said: "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be IN us."
John 8:31 - "IF you ABIDE in my word, you are TRULY my disciples."
• John 14:21: "He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
• Luke 14:26 - "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." HATE in really "love less by comparison." In the Greek original.
• John 7:37 - For Jesus stood and cried, saying on the day of the Feast, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his BELLY shall flow rivers of Living Water!"
• Luke 17:21 "nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."[/FONT]
[FONT="]•John 17:21 - Jesus said: "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be IN us."
John 8:31 - "IF you ABIDE in my word, you are TRULY my disciples."
• John 14:21: "He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
• Luke 14:26 - "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." HATE in really "love less by comparison." In the Greek original.
• John 7:37 - For Jesus stood and cried, saying on the day of the Feast, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his BELLY shall flow rivers of Living Water!"
• Luke 17:21 "nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."[/FONT]
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WHAT IS THAT SONG?
In the book of Revelation there are two songs:
NEW SONG: these are the firstfruits the 144,000
Revelation 5:9,10; "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nations' (10) And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."
Isaiah 62:12; "And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken." Notice: it says 'A city' which is future tense. (I Peter 2:5,9)
Revelation 14:3,4; "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth(John 3:31). (4) These are they which are not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed(Isaiah 42:10) from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."
This first group we read:
Psalms 40:3; "And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord."
Psalms 33:3; "Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise."
Psalms 98:1; "O Sing unto the Lord a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory,"
Psalms 96:1; "O song unto the Lord a new song: sing unto the Lord, all the earth."
Psalms 144:9; "I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltry and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee."
Psalms 149:1; "Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saint."
Isaiah 42:10; "Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof."
SONG OF MOSES
Revelation 15:3; "And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and mavelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints."
This second group is told:
Isaiah 24:9; "They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it."
Deuteronomy 31:21; "And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware."
Revelation 15:2; "And I saw as it were a sea of glass (Rev.4:6)mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of is name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."
(as they did after crossing the Red Sea)
Isaiah 14:7; "The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing."
Why are they at rest? Could it possibly be because these are those who gave their lives during the great tribulation?
Isaiah 26:1; "In that day(tribulation day) shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks."
Isaiah 42:8,9; "Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them." (a new wine, new understanding)
In the book of Revelation there are two songs:
NEW SONG: these are the firstfruits the 144,000
Revelation 5:9,10; "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nations' (10) And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."
Isaiah 62:12; "And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the Lord: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken." Notice: it says 'A city' which is future tense. (I Peter 2:5,9)
Revelation 14:3,4; "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth(John 3:31). (4) These are they which are not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed(Isaiah 42:10) from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."
This first group we read:
Psalms 40:3; "And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord."
Psalms 33:3; "Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise."
Psalms 98:1; "O Sing unto the Lord a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory,"
Psalms 96:1; "O song unto the Lord a new song: sing unto the Lord, all the earth."
Psalms 144:9; "I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltry and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee."
Psalms 149:1; "Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saint."
Isaiah 42:10; "Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof."
SONG OF MOSES
Revelation 15:3; "And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and mavelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints."
This second group is told:
Isaiah 24:9; "They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it."
Deuteronomy 31:21; "And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware."
Revelation 15:2; "And I saw as it were a sea of glass (Rev.4:6)mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of is name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."
(as they did after crossing the Red Sea)
Isaiah 14:7; "The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing."
Why are they at rest? Could it possibly be because these are those who gave their lives during the great tribulation?
Isaiah 26:1; "In that day(tribulation day) shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks."
Isaiah 42:8,9; "Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them." (a new wine, new understanding)
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Dear friends, Christ said, "My Kingdom is not of this world." So that precludes any future Davidic Jewish Israel Kingdom for the Kingdom of Christ from the present, sinful world. When Christ comes again, all sin will be gone, and there will be new heavens and a new earth and the New Jerusalem, wherein dwelleth righteousness with Christ Himself the Lamb of God on the Throne of God in Heaven. It will be a Davidic throne, but in a spiritual sense for the New Israel in heaven, Jews and Gentiles alike in it, not from an earthly Zion/Jerusalem. No future animals sacrifices in a Mosaic OT covenant, which is passed away (HEBREWS 8).
the 144000 are the the first fruits, the rest also will be saved in time, but must go through
great tribulations.rev.7:9.after this i beheld and lo, a great multitude,which no man could number of all
nations,and kindreds,and people, and tongues,stood before the throne and before the lamb , clothed with white robes and palmes in their hands.
you noticed these are them besides the special 144000.
verse.14. and i said to them , sir , thou knowest.and he said to me , these are they which came out of great tribulation. and have washed their robes ,and made them white in the blood of the lamb.
these are the majority. resurected after the trib.
wakeup.
Your very observant! Two different groups. One flock singing the song that no-one knew but the 144,000 and the other singing the song of moses. That particular flock singing the song of moses were the ones that had to wash their robes white in the blood of the lamb. These are the ones that went through Great Tribulation.
No where does it say that the 144,000 have to wash their robes white. They were just given white robes. The 144,000 are the only ones that are sealed Rev 7:3 -
Rev 9:4 commands the angel of the bottomless pit to hurt only men that do not have the seal (5th trumpet/vial)
The other christians who do not have the seal will go through tribulation and have to endure the plagues by the look of it. They will have to persevere to the end if they are not killed by false prophet and not deny Christs name. God warned us in the letters to the churches that us christians have to come out of babylon or otherwise we will share in her plagues. This brings to mind, the ark and how we have to jump in there before the door is closed. Once the door is shut, and we didn't make it in, we are going to have to endure the flood. The 144,000 made it in, but the rest have to go through much tribulation before they can enter the kingdom of God. We have to aim to be in the 144,000. This is such a small number with so many christians about. These are the ones that will be picked up. When? I do not know,but they will be first, and the rest who purified their robes will follow after them.
Regards
Journey
No where does it say that the 144,000 have to wash their robes white. They were just given white robes. The 144,000 are the only ones that are sealed Rev 7:3 -
Rev 9:4 commands the angel of the bottomless pit to hurt only men that do not have the seal (5th trumpet/vial)
The other christians who do not have the seal will go through tribulation and have to endure the plagues by the look of it. They will have to persevere to the end if they are not killed by false prophet and not deny Christs name. God warned us in the letters to the churches that us christians have to come out of babylon or otherwise we will share in her plagues. This brings to mind, the ark and how we have to jump in there before the door is closed. Once the door is shut, and we didn't make it in, we are going to have to endure the flood. The 144,000 made it in, but the rest have to go through much tribulation before they can enter the kingdom of God. We have to aim to be in the 144,000. This is such a small number with so many christians about. These are the ones that will be picked up. When? I do not know,but they will be first, and the rest who purified their robes will follow after them.
Regards
Journey
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Journey, you are very observant. It seems God is revealing to many these last days. Which I believe now.
I'm so glad that a reader here picked up on Rev.9:4 I think it was WAKEUP.
I did not add concerning Revelation 1:1 ......
"to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;"
What I needed to say was that nowhere does this say it is speaking to the Jews, Hindus, or others. It is speaking directly to Christians today. This is a word for God's church today and no one else. What is God telling us in this book and taking it to a deeper level in study outside of what has been told us. We are to become as a little child and say as Samuel: Speak Lord, thy servant hear.
I'm so glad that a reader here picked up on Rev.9:4 I think it was WAKEUP.
I did not add concerning Revelation 1:1 ......
"to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;"
What I needed to say was that nowhere does this say it is speaking to the Jews, Hindus, or others. It is speaking directly to Christians today. This is a word for God's church today and no one else. What is God telling us in this book and taking it to a deeper level in study outside of what has been told us. We are to become as a little child and say as Samuel: Speak Lord, thy servant hear.
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Journey, you are a very observant person.
The book of revelation seems to indicate that the two groups are:
144,000
and
the ones called the Multitude. Remember Jesus taught the multitude alot.
Only the Multitude are the ones that stand on a sea of glass.
Revelation 4:6; "And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind."
Revelation 15:2; "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."
Notice: these four beast are also seen in the first part of Ezekiel.
Notice that they stand on a 'sea of glass.' Glass is formed by intense heat. This seems to indicate these came out of great persecution.
Since the book of Revelation is directed at the church for the last days (Rev.1:1"his servants) these are all christians he is speaking to. It is telling us they have been broken down into two different groups.
In Matthew 25 we also see two groups:
five wise and five foolish
The five wise went into the marriage but the five foolish were kepted out.
These are both groups of christians.
Did God make a way for the five foolish? In Isaiah 55:1; "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come buy wine and milk without money and without price.
God makes a way. The five wise are the bride and are sealed for protection during the great tribulation. The five foolish are the ones who are at the supper. Rev. 3:20. Both groups do get in. Both groups go through the great tribulation.
Remember Jesus prayed in the garden: John 17:15; "I pray not that shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."
Why did the five foolish not get in?
Revelation 19:10; "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." This is referring to those who have the Truth and the Truth is the testimony of Jesus.
John 3:31-33; "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. (32)And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. (33) He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.: Jesus is Truth and the spirit of prophecy would have the knowledge of the truth.
The book of revelation seems to indicate that the two groups are:
144,000
and
the ones called the Multitude. Remember Jesus taught the multitude alot.
Only the Multitude are the ones that stand on a sea of glass.
Revelation 4:6; "And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind."
Revelation 15:2; "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God."
Notice: these four beast are also seen in the first part of Ezekiel.
Notice that they stand on a 'sea of glass.' Glass is formed by intense heat. This seems to indicate these came out of great persecution.
Since the book of Revelation is directed at the church for the last days (Rev.1:1"his servants) these are all christians he is speaking to. It is telling us they have been broken down into two different groups.
In Matthew 25 we also see two groups:
five wise and five foolish
The five wise went into the marriage but the five foolish were kepted out.
These are both groups of christians.
Did God make a way for the five foolish? In Isaiah 55:1; "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come buy wine and milk without money and without price.
God makes a way. The five wise are the bride and are sealed for protection during the great tribulation. The five foolish are the ones who are at the supper. Rev. 3:20. Both groups do get in. Both groups go through the great tribulation.
Remember Jesus prayed in the garden: John 17:15; "I pray not that shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil."
Why did the five foolish not get in?
Revelation 19:10; "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow-servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." This is referring to those who have the Truth and the Truth is the testimony of Jesus.
John 3:31-33; "He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. (32)And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. (33) He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.: Jesus is Truth and the spirit of prophecy would have the knowledge of the truth.