Who Do Jews and Muslims Worship?

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I believe Christians have the only God! Jews who are not Christians don't except Jesus as Son of God and neither do the Muslims. Is it al from the Bible? I think it's important to remember the Muslims have a different book and don't except the Bible.
 
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I see that claim thrown around a bit. What verses in the bible directly teach that?
1 JOHN 2

22 Who is the liar but (BF)the one who denies that Jesus is the [g]Christ? This is (BG)the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23 (BH)Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.
 
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1 John 4:2-4 (New International Version)

2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 
Mar 21, 2011
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1 John 4:2-4 (New International Version)

2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
Good call. I like this one. Makes your argument better.
 
Feb 17, 2011
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Allah seems way more into the burning and the killing and the chopping and so on.
HOSEA13:16: ((they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open))
Psalms137:9: ((Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones))
1st Samuel15:3: ((Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass))
Indeed, "Allah's messenger" brought a message of death and conquering
Luke19:27 (( But those mine enemies which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither and slay them before me ))
Luk 12:49 (( I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? ))
Matthew10:34 ((Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.))
NO MUSLIM BILIEVES THAT JESUS ( beace be upon him ) SAID SOMTHING LIKE THAT, JESUS IS A GREAT PROPHET AND MESSENGAR OF GOD, HE WAS MERCIFUL, NOT LIKE THAT.
Indeed, "Allah's messenger" brought a message of death and conquering
Joshua8:8: ((And it shall be, when ye have taken the city, that ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD shall ye do. See, I have commanded you))
No Muslim believe that God commanded to do something like that.
 
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Allah is so much different than our God
Right
God of the Bible and Islam are different.
Alright
Who Do Jews and Muslims Worship?
Dont know, I have never asked one.
You can compare between them, It is neutral stand point:
Genesis 2:1- 3(( Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he restedon the seventh day ))
Qur'an 50:38 (( We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Daysnor did any sense of weariness touch Us.))
Is the True God is the god of Genesis 2:1- 3 or the god of Qur'an 50:38
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Does God saying that about himsef:
Revelation17:14 but the Lamb will conquer them, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings.
Revelation19:7 because the wedding celebration of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
Qur'an 37:180-182{Glorified is your Lord, Lord of Honour, (and free) from all that they attribute to Him., and peace on the Messengers, and all praise is only for God, Lord of the Universe}
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Still is right, if they don't except Jesus as the Christ to come, the Messiah who is God the Son (or Son of God) then they are not with us and are not the same.
 
May 18, 2011
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Originally Posted by Protection_Retribution

Allah seems way more into the burning and the killing and the chopping and so on.


HOSEA13:16: ((they will be cut down by the sword, their little children will be broken on the rocks, their women who are with child will be cut open))
Psalms137:9: ((Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones))
1st Samuel15:3: ((Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass))

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Originally Posted by Grey

Indeed, "Allah's messenger" brought a message of death and conquering


Luke19:27 (( But those mine enemies which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither and slay them before me ))
Luk 12:49 (( I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? ))
Matthew10:34 ((Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.))
NO MUSLIM BILIEVES THAT JESUS ( beace be upon him ) SAID SOMTHING LIKE THAT, JESUS IS A GREAT PROPHET AND MESSENGAR OF GOD, HE WAS MERCIFUL, NOT LIKE THAT.

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Originally Posted by Grey

Indeed, "Allah's messenger" brought a message of death and conquering


Joshua8:8: ((And it shall be, when ye have taken the city, that ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD shall ye do. See, I have commanded you))
No Muslim believe that God commanded to do something like that.

worship, I know that you have probably been raised in the muslim belief, so you must know that the qur'an also teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin(mulsim religion believes in the virgin birth), it also teaches that the Hebrew people whom Moses lead out of Egypt are the chosen people of YHWH. So here is a question you have to ask yourself. If Jesus (as far as I've learned) is the only one in all religion to be born of a virgin and it's been proven of His death and ressurection, than don't you think that He must truly be the son of God? I don't know if you're allowed to study for yourself, but the qur'an has so many contradictions in it, contradictions that have been proven time and again. allah is not the God of Abraham, YHWH is, your book says allah takes away your sin, but you go to Mecca to have a rock do it. Is your god in that rock? All we have to do is ask God for forgiveness. Yeshua(Jesus) came and delivered us from our sin, and will do the same for you if you ask Him to. I'm sorry but you have been put under so much bondage from your people. As for your comments on the scriptures of the Bible, i.e. Hosea, Psalm, 1 Samuel, the reason YHWH told them to wipe them all out was because of there denial of Him and all the pagan practices that were so vile and perverted. Yet the qur'an teaches if you aren't a muslim than you're an infadel and you're to die. The Bible doesn't teach that, for all are given the chance to be saved. The qur'an also teaches that your great reward in heaven is 70 virgins, so if you're a girl, do you get virgin men? How perverted is that? I'm sorry, I am not trying to be rude, but you have a sexual orgy to look forward to because you killed someone or whatever in the name of allah. But in the Bible, we have eternity with YHWH, and Yeshua our Messiah as well as family and friends to look forward to being with. There's nothing sexual or perverted about any of it, or violent for that matter. Yeshua brings us peace and hope for eternity, teaches us to withstand and overcome the evil in this world. To show love and mercy to others, forgiveness. I know that not all muslims live according to the violence that is taught in the qur'an, but what it boils down to is no one will enter Heaven unless they have received Yeshua in there heart. Please seek the truth out for yourself, don't go by what anyone says, not even me. I challenge you to ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that if He is truly the real God of all and that Yeshua is the Messiah of all, that He would show you in a way that you know would be true. What do you have to lose?
 
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One more thing, allah was originally worshiped as an ancient tribal moon god. Shalom
 
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Ya I heard about how mahammad became who is was, or about him. That religion was something else before and it is different now.
 
Mar 21, 2011
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One more thing, allah was originally worshiped as an ancient tribal moon god. Shalom
Yahweh was also one of many Gods amongst a pantheon of various pagan Jewish tribes. Don't start throwing rocks if you live in a glass house.

There would hardly be a need for the second commandment if there was Jews worshipping other Gods at the time.
 
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Yahweh was also one of many Gods amongst a pantheon of various pagan Jewish tribes. Don't start throwing rocks if you live in a glass house
David, I'm sorry but your statement here shows your lack of knowledge of God's true hebrew name, before you make such bogus claims I would do your research first so you don't look ignorant.
 
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Yahweh is Hebrew for Lord, we Christians use it...
 
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Yahweh was also one of many Gods amongst a pantheon of various pagan Jewish tribes. Don't start throwing rocks if you live in a glass house
David, I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Before you state something so bogus, I would do your research. YHWH/YHVH, is the true name of God in Hebrew. Also what is a pagan jewish tribe?
 
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David, I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Before you state something so bogus, I would do your research. YHWH/YHVH, is the true name of God in Hebrew. Also what is a pagan jewish tribe?
LOL, please research the Ancient Jewish tribes and the development of Ancient Judaism before you call me ignorant.

The various Tribes had their own deities. A lot were pagans.

Why do you think there is so much teaching against this stuff in the Old Testament.

It's because the Jewish Tribes were Pagan Polytheists. A lot of them even followed Egyptian Gods etc, especially when they were slaves. Moses was brought up as an Egyptian pagan.

The whole thing wasn't unified until much later. It's all there in the bible.

God even chose to have one of the commandments address a problem that he saw.

Why even mention 'other Gods before me' if people weren't doing that? It's because the Jews just didn't become the Jews from a bolt of lightening out of the sky.
 
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Actually Christianity is the second part of Judiasm...just not today's Judiasm. So YHWH is Lord, not trying to argue but bring in a point.
 
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Jews worship YHWH, although they don't accept Christ as our messiah and god's physical being sent to save us. Allah - not the same god worshipped as christians and jews
 
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Allah is not the God of Abraham
CHRISTIANS WHO TALKING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE USING THE WORD ( GOD ) REFERING TO THE ONE GOD, CHRISTIANS AND JEWES WHO TALKING ARABIC LANGUAGE DO NOT USE THE WORD (GOD), THEY USING THE WORD ( ALLAH ), THERFORE THE WORD ALLAH IS NOT ONLY FOR ISLAM AND NOT ONLY FOR MUSLIMS ,THE WORD {ALLAH} IS THE SAME WORD USED IN ARABIC BIBLES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT , IN PAGE ONE IN JENESES WE WILL FIND THE WORD {ALLAH} 17 TIMES, IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IN ARABIC LANGUAGE WE FIND THE WORD {ALLAH} ALSO USED WHEN REFERRING TO THE ONE GOD, THEREFORE MUSLIMS BILIEVE THAT {THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, AND JESUS IS MASENGOR OF ALLAH}.
 
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David, I'm sorry but your statement here shows your lack of knowledge of God's true hebrew name
David, I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong. Before you state something so bogus, I would do your research. YHWH/YHVH, is the true name of God in Hebrew.
One thing that many non-Hebrew speaking Jews and Christians mistake about is the name of GOD Almighty in the Bible. ((Yahweh)) in Hebrew means ((The LORD)) or the ((The GOD)). It is not a name, look at the following quotations from Christian and Jewish resources:
"Judaism teaches that while God's name exists in written form, it is too holy to be pronounced. The result has been that, over the last 2000 years, the correct pronunciation has been lost."(Mankind's Search for GOD, p. 225).
The name of our Creator is not ((God)) or ((Yahweh)), you can see that the pronunciation for the original name for GOD Almighty had been lost, and the Jews have no idea what the exact pronunciation is from their Holy Scriptures and resources.
"About 3,500 years ago, God spoke to Moses, saying: 'Thus shall you speak to the Israelites: The LORD [Hebrew: YHWH], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you: This shall be My name forever, this My appellation for all eternity.' (Exodus 3:15; Psalm 135:13)"(Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).
"....the four Hebrew consonants YHWH (Yahweh) that in their Latinized form have come to be known over the centuries in English as JEHOVAH."(Mankind's Search for GOD, p.225).
So the word ((YHWH)) or ((Yahweh)) or ((Jehovah)) is not the ORIGINAL name, but the appellation (title) for the Almighty GOD. This is perfectly fine, because Jews, Christians and Muslims call on to GOD Almighty as "The LORD" or "The GOD", which means "Yahweh" ((or)) "Jehovah" in Hebrew and {Al-Rab} in Arabic. {Al-Rab} in Arabic and ((Yahweh)) in Hebrew and the other translations in all other languages are indeed GOD Almighty's title. But they are NOT His original Name! What is the original name of our Creator then.
look at what Exodus 3:15 and Psalm 135:13 from the NIV Bible say: "God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `The LORD [Notice that they didn't write Jehovah. "The LORD" in only a title], the God of your fathers--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 3:15)"
"Your name, O LORD, endures forever, your renown, O LORD, through all generations. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 135:13)"
So as we see from the above Verses from the NIV Bible, the original name for GOD Almighty is not ((Yahweh)). The title ((The LORD)) is only a title and a nick name (if you will) that we give to GOD Almighty, But ((Yahweh)) is definitely NOT THE ORIGINAL NAME for GOD Almighty, {Allah} on the other hand is a name, Jews and Christians do not know what is the original name of the Creator, Muslims bilieve that the original name of our lord is{Allah}.