Who here is an interpreter of tongues or knows someone who is?
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People with Gift of interpretation can not interpret like a normal Human language translation, the interpretation has to come from God first and the person chosen with this will relay the interpretation. So unless God gives the person the translation, then they can hear all the toungues they like and it will not mean anything to them, unless God reveals it them, via Holy Spirit.
Interpretation is for open meetings, if someone stands up with a message in tongues, then someone will be told by God what it is and they give it. If people stand up and just blurb something out without translation, then it means they got it wrong and it wasnt from God after all.
Of course, what we say in private using this, it dost need translation, its just the outward expression of Holy Spirit and my spirit. This is why using this kind of tongue is wrong in public in the way we see it abused, that is if it really is genuine and not false spirits, which is more common than people think.
Interpretation is for open meetings, if someone stands up with a message in tongues, then someone will be told by God what it is and they give it. If people stand up and just blurb something out without translation, then it means they got it wrong and it wasnt from God after all.
Of course, what we say in private using this, it dost need translation, its just the outward expression of Holy Spirit and my spirit. This is why using this kind of tongue is wrong in public in the way we see it abused, that is if it really is genuine and not false spirits, which is more common than people think.
Many claim to speak in tongues but no one willing to claim to be an interpreter. This is also true outside of this forum.
And no one willing to give evidence as such. Also true outside of this forum.
Many many angelic languages...ALL speaking even different languages among themselves. How many languages do the angels have? More than us?
At least you would think they would have one common language....or did God confound their language too?
And no one willing to give evidence as such. Also true outside of this forum.
Many many angelic languages...ALL speaking even different languages among themselves. How many languages do the angels have? More than us?
At least you would think they would have one common language....or did God confound their language too?
Surely the angels who spoke anywhere in the scriptures spoke in the common tongue of those they spoke to. Paul's point at 1 Cor 13:1 is merely that they are better able to be articulate and refine the points they make in our own language better than we are.
Any language they spoke would be their tongue, thus the tongue of angels.
Any language they spoke would be their tongue, thus the tongue of angels.
Speaking with the tongues of Angels is about delivering the sobering truth. Speaking with the tongues of man is about articulating that truth TO man.
Paul is saying EVEN though he speaks to man the truth of what the ANGELS deliver and has not LOVE then the sobering truth to him means nothing.
The message is STILL delivered.
It is a personal conviction he speaks of...
NOT one that merelys suggests of articulation.
Paul is saying EVEN though he speaks to man the truth of what the ANGELS deliver and has not LOVE then the sobering truth to him means nothing.
The message is STILL delivered.
It is a personal conviction he speaks of...
NOT one that merelys suggests of articulation.
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Messenger, I see what you're saying but I also know the godly character of my good friend. If somone discerned what he said wasn't from God, they'd let him know. Also, he doesn't know Hebrew. Finally, they're not words of prophecy, more words of affirmation of God's love for his children and his desire to see them seeking him with all that they are.
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Donkey,
I have been in ministry for many years. I have sang, spoke and taught. In Pentecostal churches, Methodist Churches, Baptist Churches...etc. And each one of those and more in many denominations of each.
NEVER once have I heard an interpretation and a BIBLICAL hearing of the speaking in tongues.
I am in Kentucky..the buckle of the Bible Belt.
I am not a skeptic but just someone who seeks NOT to be religious of such matters.
I believe in the gift of tongues..just not the way religion defines it to be.
I have been in ministry for many years. I have sang, spoke and taught. In Pentecostal churches, Methodist Churches, Baptist Churches...etc. And each one of those and more in many denominations of each.
NEVER once have I heard an interpretation and a BIBLICAL hearing of the speaking in tongues.
I am in Kentucky..the buckle of the Bible Belt.
I am not a skeptic but just someone who seeks NOT to be religious of such matters.
I believe in the gift of tongues..just not the way religion defines it to be.
Tintin,
Believers seeking signs or confirmation of God is not what we are to be doing. It says this specifically as well in scripture.If this message is already out there and believers already trust this message and are living in faith, then why do we need confirmation?
I am not questioning your friend as he may very well have that gift..but JUST because no one questions him offers many skeptics and believerd alike into questioning.
1.) If he interprets his own tongue how can we trust him? (Believer)
2.) It is not any language i know of or anyone can confirm so how can I believe it? (Skeptic)
3.) ANYONE can say they have discernment (tell when somoene is lying)....this offers many questions of it's own.
See what I am getting at?
Believers seeking signs or confirmation of God is not what we are to be doing. It says this specifically as well in scripture.If this message is already out there and believers already trust this message and are living in faith, then why do we need confirmation?
I am not questioning your friend as he may very well have that gift..but JUST because no one questions him offers many skeptics and believerd alike into questioning.
1.) If he interprets his own tongue how can we trust him? (Believer)
2.) It is not any language i know of or anyone can confirm so how can I believe it? (Skeptic)
3.) ANYONE can say they have discernment (tell when somoene is lying)....this offers many questions of it's own.
See what I am getting at?
P
Hi there. I speak in tongues, and have have interpretations of another persons tongues on occasion.
The times I have had an interpretation, its been more of an 'impression' for me -- and as I begin to speak, more flows out. It usually has been backed up by another person present either with a similiar impression, or a scripture to correspond with it.
I have also known a few, maybe two at most, interpret their own tongues. I feel like God can do that; why not? I also know that if the interpretation doesn't bear witness to me, or resonate within my own spirit, its not for me to lay hold of.
As I write this, I also cannot think of an intpretation that has been anything but glorifying or praising or giving thanks to God.
so if its about praising the Lord, its all good. If someone is speaking out during a gathering, the issue is their maturity and appropriate timing. Speaking in tongues, and any using other spiritual gift requires good mentoring from a trusted, mature, faith filled believer.
As for speaking tongues, I believe that my tongue is an actual language here on earth. At different times, by tongue is not the same. For example, when I know I am praising God, my tongue is always the same --- the same when I am praying over something/someone, I will pray in the spirit until God releases the english words to pray for someone. (prayer ministry is also always for building up and edifying) When there has been spiritual opposition present, my tongue has been very different.
I don't have conscious control over the change.
Hope this helps with your information gathering.
PS -- I need to add something, tongues from someone else is not to be trusted as a prophetic word etc. Like anything, our individual relationship with the Lord is paramount. So, the real issue is, if you feel the person may be faking it etc. is to not hold that person in judgement. (see how easy the devil wants to split the church and divide relationship?)
Praying in the spirit is for edifying oneself; its like a heavenly hug that just builds and builds your spirit.
When I spend time with the Lord praising him in the spirit, I feel full to overflowing with his love, mercy, etc etc. etc.
Blessings to you.
The times I have had an interpretation, its been more of an 'impression' for me -- and as I begin to speak, more flows out. It usually has been backed up by another person present either with a similiar impression, or a scripture to correspond with it.
I have also known a few, maybe two at most, interpret their own tongues. I feel like God can do that; why not? I also know that if the interpretation doesn't bear witness to me, or resonate within my own spirit, its not for me to lay hold of.
As I write this, I also cannot think of an intpretation that has been anything but glorifying or praising or giving thanks to God.
so if its about praising the Lord, its all good. If someone is speaking out during a gathering, the issue is their maturity and appropriate timing. Speaking in tongues, and any using other spiritual gift requires good mentoring from a trusted, mature, faith filled believer.
As for speaking tongues, I believe that my tongue is an actual language here on earth. At different times, by tongue is not the same. For example, when I know I am praising God, my tongue is always the same --- the same when I am praying over something/someone, I will pray in the spirit until God releases the english words to pray for someone. (prayer ministry is also always for building up and edifying) When there has been spiritual opposition present, my tongue has been very different.
I don't have conscious control over the change.
Hope this helps with your information gathering.
PS -- I need to add something, tongues from someone else is not to be trusted as a prophetic word etc. Like anything, our individual relationship with the Lord is paramount. So, the real issue is, if you feel the person may be faking it etc. is to not hold that person in judgement. (see how easy the devil wants to split the church and divide relationship?)
Praying in the spirit is for edifying oneself; its like a heavenly hug that just builds and builds your spirit.
When I spend time with the Lord praising him in the spirit, I feel full to overflowing with his love, mercy, etc etc. etc.
Blessings to you.
Our trust is not in the "believer" but in God. We know that the scripture speaks of believers speaking in a tongue and that in the church it should be interpreted so that the church may be edified. So it is in God that we put our trust and we trust that God gave the gift of holy Spirit to edify the believer and to edify the church. God gives the manifestation of tongues; God gives the interpretation.
I do not need to know the language I hear. . . if it is done correctly . . .and the interpretation is given and the interpretation lines up with the Word of God to edify and encourage the group of believers present. . .that is all the confirmation I need.
Again, we have to trust God and his Word. . . .Is what is being done line up with scripture?
With the way the manifestations of the Spirit are handled in churches today. . I can see the reason for skepticism. The manifestations are being handled in the way of the church in Corinth, i.e. How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. (reproof) Paul wrote 1 Cor. 12-14 as a reproof and correction doctrinal epistle to get the Corinthian church back on track. . .
Correction: If any man speak in an tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course (in order); and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter (14:13), let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Let the prophets speak two or three, (the prophet would give a word of prophecy, a word of wisdom, a word of knowledge) and let the other judge. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.. . . . .Let all things be done decently and in order.
If the manifestations of the gift of holy Spirit is being handled correctly. . .there will not be confusion and all things will be done decently and in order. . . there is our discernment.
I do not need to know the language I hear. . . if it is done correctly . . .and the interpretation is given and the interpretation lines up with the Word of God to edify and encourage the group of believers present. . .that is all the confirmation I need.
Again, we have to trust God and his Word. . . .Is what is being done line up with scripture?
With the way the manifestations of the Spirit are handled in churches today. . I can see the reason for skepticism. The manifestations are being handled in the way of the church in Corinth, i.e. How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. (reproof) Paul wrote 1 Cor. 12-14 as a reproof and correction doctrinal epistle to get the Corinthian church back on track. . .
Correction: If any man speak in an tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course (in order); and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter (14:13), let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. Let the prophets speak two or three, (the prophet would give a word of prophecy, a word of wisdom, a word of knowledge) and let the other judge. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.. . . . .Let all things be done decently and in order.
If the manifestations of the gift of holy Spirit is being handled correctly. . .there will not be confusion and all things will be done decently and in order. . . there is our discernment.