Who invented Sunday Worship?

[2Thewaters]

Answer:
Babylon. It existed even while the Jews existed and Baal ashtoreth Tamuz chenoth all were pagan Sun god Deities and they all worshipped on the day of the sun and God told the Israelites if they worshipped those Gods on their pagan sun day he would destroy them

So the enemy saw his chanE! The promise of God promising to destroy a country if worshipping on sunday was fulfilled why, he would bend every musckel to get the world to worship sunday, and God wil have to destroy the planet!

so the battle starts:

First he has to make a one world government
then he has to force them to worship sunday
then God wil destroy mankind that was his plan

He almost did it in Babylon except three hebrews refused and God worked a miracle and turned them all to Sabbath keepers

oh well nice try

Then he almost did it with the Meo persian empire but God had daniel there and that didn't work either, oh well.
then the Persian king tried it with Esther and mordecai at the gte and God broke apart that schem and hung the sunday perpetrator, and so the greek empire was developed as a war like nation to ontrol the world and bring it together then it was handed to ROME and the ROMAN empire took over,
and killed the christians and made the SUNDAY LAW FINALLY nin 321 AD...
his name was constantine
sonctantine the pagan
he drove his army through a river, proclaimed them Baptized and then said he was priest of the world AND emperoro of the world.. and started slaughtering anyone who would not keep sunday.


The christians died like flies and there were few left except for the waldensians who hid in the mountains keeping the Sabbath but eventually they died too, and ther were a few coptic churches in africa whom Solomon fathered who kept the Sabbath, and just before they died Jesus started the seventh day baptists in 1700 or ana baptists... they read their Bibles

...
to be continued because saying any more is a feloney in the USA now,
you cannot speak against any religion it is a hate crime

but know this.
sunday worship for the whole world is the plan of the enemy ever since babylon times

just remember
Follow your Bible and you will be ok
Get a relationship with Jesus like you never had before
read your Bible
keep it
follow it
I may put up part two when the european war starts course there may be no internet then anymore because the next world war I do not know when exactly it will be but the one after that will be fought with sticks and stones...

 

[duewell]

all in all, you're just another brick in the wall.

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13

 

[Anonimous]

So... now all we have to do is worship one day a week? Is this what you are saying. Or are you saying that we should only worship God on Saturday but NOT Mon-Fri and not on Sunday? That is the most cockeyed legalistic thing I have ever heard of.

 

[RedTent]

So... now all we have to do is worship one day a week? Is this what you are saying. Or are you saying that we should only worship God on Saturday but NOT Mon-Fri and not on Sunday? That is the most cockeyed legalistic thing I have ever heard of.

Cockeyed? Legalistic? Someone saying "only worship God on Saturday". Who says that? No scripture or person following scripture that I have ever read.

Maybe you are going off the deep end when God tells you to keep the Sabbath day. Is that where you say "only" worship on Saturday comes from? That is an entirely different subject. Keeping the Sabbath, and worship of God has nothing to do with legalism.

If you belong on Christian Chat with people talking about God in their lives, then you are WAY off base.

 

[Josh321]

all in all, you're just another brick in the wall.

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13

lol, the entire bible is a parable and it's sad to see when people don't understand it and do something completely different, they are countless scriptures in the bible that states the sabbath was intended for the jews only even the 10 commandments itself what was meant for us was the holy spirit, the jews are still blinded this very day, they don't know that christ came and died for us so they cannot receive the holy spirit as yet, but what do they do? they still keep the first covenant holy as what the bible said they would do that is why they still keep the sabbath and try to be self righteous with the other laws aswell, but yet people and willing blinding themselves into something that wasn't meant for us in the first place

 

[RedTent]

It was Nimrod, Noah's great grandson who started Sunday worship. We don't have much about him in the bible, but archeology and the new ability to read ancient writings have brought out information.

Nimrod was an ancient Hitler type, and decided people should worship the sun. The days of the week, in very early bible times was only by numbers, not the names for them we have now, except for what we call Saturday was then called Sabbath. The first day of the week was later named Sunday, or day of the sun and designated as the day for worship of the sun. Most early idol worship was done on Sunday.

It was Constantine, the Christian roman emperor who made it illegal to worship on Saturday because he said that anything the Jews did for worship was illegal. The Romans, who Constantine told must change the name of their God to Christ, had worshipped idols on Sunday. It was hard enough to get them to change their God, he did the best he could to Christianize their idol worship, so it worked best to tell them Sunday was best. Many Christians had changed over, anyhow. Constantine called for the Nicene Council that backed these ideas up. Their spring celebration was changed to Easter, Passover was illegal. A winter celebration they had was the basis for Christmas.

 

[stonesoffire]

Sunday worship is from the OT type and shadow of the 8th Day.

Feast of first fruits and the harvest.

 

[RedTent]

lol, the entire bible is a parable and it's sad to see when people don't understand it and do something completely different, they are countless scriptures in the bible that states the sabbath was intended for the jews only even the 10 commandments itself what was meant for us was the holy spirit, the jews are still blinded this very day, they don't know that christ came and died for us so they cannot receive the holy spirit as yet, but what do they do? they still keep the first covenant holy as what the bible said they would do that is why they still keep the sabbath and try to be self righteous with the other laws aswell, but yet people and willing blinding themselves into something that wasn't meant for us in the first place

What a mixed up view of how God used the Jews!! There a little truths in there here and there, and by the time you get done with this explanation of all scripture says, the truths get lost! Please study the bible. If the Old Testament won't do, search Romans and Hebrews for God's relationship and view of Jews.

You say you know all Jews and what they think for an absolute fact, but you don't. You have a lot of judgments of people in your thinking, and that is not right. Your thinking needs to be questioning God for your place in His redemption plan.

 

[Josh321]

What a mixed up view of how God used the Jews!! There a little truths in there here and there, and by the time you get done with this explanation of all scripture says, the truths get lost! Please study the bible. If the Old Testament won't do, search Romans and Hebrews for God's relationship and view of Jews.

You say you know all Jews and what they think for an absolute fact, but you don't. You have a lot of judgments of people in your thinking, and that is not right. Your thinking needs to be questioning God for your place in His redemption plan.

i never said i know all jews and the bible said so.. that the jews were purposely blinded go ask a true Jew who Jesus is, i don't mean a gentile who went to israel and had a few kids there i mean a true Jew apart of the 144 000 you would see they don't know him, obviously God choose to reveal himself to some of them though, maybe you should research the bible more? and sunday worship came about from the day of pentecost, so wait can i ask a question do you take communion on saturday too? when it was clearly on sunday?

 

[weakness]

​Hebrews says the saboth is the rest of God or resting in Gods works. I try and do this every day.

 

[RedTent]

i never said i know all jews and the bible said so.. that the jews were purposely blinded go ask a true Jew who Jesus is, i don't mean a gentile who went to israel and had a few kids there i mean a true Jew apart of the 144 000 you would see they don't know him, obviously God choose to reveal himself to some of them though, maybe you should research the bible more? and sunday worship came about from the day of pentecost, so wait can i ask a question do you take communion on saturday too? when it was clearly on sunday?

How can you say bible worship came about on the day of Pentecost?

No, I take communion on Sunday. I do that because I need to go to a church to worship God that has church on Sunday, and they don't think I have the authority to dictate to them.!!! God understands my heart. My pastor and I talked it over. We decided we both love Christ, we both take our sins to Christ, we are siblings in Christ and of the same family and we have love for each other. That is what counts.

 

[RedTent]

​Hebrews says the saboth is the rest of God or resting in Gods works. I try and do this every day.

That is true weakness. But that truth stands side by side with the truth that we are to copy God in that God worked six days and rested on the seventh. That is also true. You cannot use one truth to cancel something else that is also true.

 

[danschance]

So because pagans worshiped on a Sunday that is where Sunday worship came from? LOL. That is called guilt by association. There is no mention of Babylonian worship in the NT. The early Church fathers never mentioned Babylonian worship either. But Sunday was the day Christ rose from the dead and the Apostles and early church chose to worship on that day to honor this important event.

The early church fathers called Sunday the Lord's day, not Babylon day.

So please stop making innuendo's based on nothing but thin air. There is no evidence to this shameful lie that somehow the early Church fathers started Sunday worship as they tied it in with Babylon.

What did the early church fathers say about Sunday?

The Didache"But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned" (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas
"We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead" (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

Ignatius of Antioch
"[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death" (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Justin Martyr
"But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead" (First Apology 67 [A.D. 155]).

The Didascalia
"The apostles further appointed: On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [i.e., Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven" (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).

Origen
"Hence it is not possible that the [day of] rest after the Sabbath should have come into existence from the seventh [day] of our God. On the contrary, it is our Savior who, after the pattern of his own rest, caused us to be made in the likeness of his death, and hence also of his resurrection" (Commentary on John 2:28 [A.D. 229]).

Victorinus
"The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. And let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews . . . which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished" (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).

Eusebius of Caesarea
"They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things" (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 312]).
"[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality" (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).

Athanasius
"The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation" (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).

 

[Josh321]

So because pagans worshiped on a Sunday that is where Sunday worship came from? LOL. That is called guilt by association. There is no mention of Babylonian worship in the NT. The early Church fathers never mentioned Babylonian worship either. But Sunday was the day Christ rose from the dead and the early church chose to worship on that day to honor this important event.

The early church fathers called Sunday the Lord's day, not Babylon day.

So please stop making innuendo's based on nothing but thin air. There is no evidence to this shameful lie that somehow the early Church fathers started Sunday worship as they tied it in with Babylon.

What did the early church fathers say about Sunday?

isn't it funny indeed?

 

[Josh321]

if sabbath was so important why wasn't it mentioned to be followed in the new testament?

 

[stonesoffire]

and sunday worship came about from the day of pentecost, so wait can i ask a question do you take communion on saturday too? when it was clearly on sunday?

truth!

I see a parallel here too...

between this scripture:

Gen 17:10
"This is My covenant which you guard between Me and you, and your seed after you: Every male child among you is to be circumcised.
Gen 17:11
"And you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall become a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
Gen 17:12
"And a son of eight days is circumcised by you, every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house or bought with silver from any foreigner who is not of your seed.
Gen 17:13
"He who is born in your house, and he who is bought with your silver, has to be circumcised. So shall My covenant be in your flesh, for an everlasting covenant.
Gen 17:14
"And an uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, his life shall be cut off from his people – he has broken My covenant."

and this:

Col 2:9
Because in Him dwells all the completeness of the Mightiness bodily,
Col 2:10
and you have been made complete in Him, who is the Head of all principality and authority.
Col 2:11
In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not made with hands, in the putting off of the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Messiah,
Col 2:12
having been buried with Him in immersion, in which you also were raised with Him through the belief in the working of Elohim, who raised Him from the dead.

All the OT fulfilled in Him..and in us. A body thou hast prepared for Him.

We could celebrate all the feasts with Israel knowing the truth of who they portray.

I don't understand why the OPoster says that it is a devious plan to bring all into sunday worship.

 

[danschance]

isn't it funny indeed?

Yes, this blatant lie based on thin air, is completly laughable because it is so absurd. These Judaizers want to undo what the Apostles did because they want to blend Christianity with Judaism. The Jehovah's Witness' do the same thing by stating the Trinity came from Baylon. The Babylonians did worship three gods but they never believed those three gods were one god. Yet it seems like a good lie to tell. It is nothing but guilt by association.

Those who sell this lie to the church will answer to God for their error.

 

[Josh321]

Yes, this blatant lie based on thin air, is completly laughable because it is so absurd. These Judaizers want to undo what the Apostles did because they want to blend Christianity with Judaism. The Jehovah's Witness' do the same thing by stating the Trinity came from Baylon. The Babylonians did worship three gods but they never believed those three gods were one god. Yet it seems like a good lie to tell. It is nothing but guilt by association.

Those who sell this lie to the church will answer to God for their error.

know what's even more sad to see? that so many people mind is so bent they don't even wanna come out and discuss with anyone, it's like no matter what you say despite it might be the truth or not they all just have this one tracked mind.. that doesn't change no matter what or even want to discuss anything

 

[RedTent]

So because pagans worshiped on a Sunday that is where Sunday worship came from? LOL. That is called guilt by association. There is no mention of Babylonian worship in the NT. The early Church fathers never mentioned Babylonian worship either. But Sunday was the day Christ rose from the dead and the Apostles and early church chose to worship on that day to honor this important event.

The early church fathers called Sunday the Lord's day, not Babylon day.

So please stop making innuendo's based on nothing but thin air. There is no evidence to this shameful lie that somehow the early Church fathers started Sunday worship as they tied it in with Babylon.

What did the early church fathers say about Sunday?

The way the gentiles look at the Jews, and the Jews see gentiles has been a problem from the time of Moses. Often God told the Jews to be kind to gentiles and welcome them if they wanted to join in worship of God. Jews looked at gentiles the way gentiles are now looking at Jews. They said it was because gentiles didn't know God, we say it is because Jews, every person of them, reject Christ. It is not right.

Lots of what Peter and Paul worked toward was in response to the Jews telling them they had to teach gentiles to follow their traditions. The early church fathers carried this misunderstanding between cultures into what they said God was telling them. Constantine made it all Roman law, and church councils repeated it.

When you try to tell people that idol worship and worship on Sunday is not connected, you are not following history. It is connected. It has been since just after Noah at least.

 

[danschance]

When you try to tell people that idol worship and worship on Sunday is not connected, you are not following history. It is connected. It has been since just after Noah at least.

You may believe it is connected but with out proof, it is nothing but you opinion. There is no proof for this conspiracy theory either, not a shread. On the other hand I have posted proof that the early Church fathers claimed we worship on Sunday because that is the day the Lord rose on.

And by the way, I am offended by your use of the term "gentile", Christians are not gentiles. Christians are the wild olive branch that has been grafted into the olive tree as other branches were broken off.

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[SUP]c[/SUP] of the olive tree, Romans 11:17