Who is Jesus' Mother?
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Yes correct the child will rule all nations with a rod of iron... the church is a part of the man child.
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
To me it looks like the man child is the body of Christ... with Christ being the head.... Man this is awesome!
First we have Jesus who will rule with a rod of iron.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Next we have the "overcomers" who will rule with a rod of iron.
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Next we have a woman who brings forth a man child who rules the nations with a rod of iron.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Can you see that? The man child is the body of Christ which will be born when the last believer becomes a part of the body.
The man child in Revelation is not the physical birth of Jesus, it is the birth of the body of Christ at the end of this age......... Unbelievable!!!!!.......
First we have Jesus who will rule with a rod of iron.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Next we have the "overcomers" who will rule with a rod of iron.
Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Next we have a woman who brings forth a man child who rules the nations with a rod of iron.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Can you see that? The man child is the body of Christ which will be born when the last believer becomes a part of the body.
The man child in Revelation is not the physical birth of Jesus, it is the birth of the body of Christ at the end of this age......... Unbelievable!!!!!.......
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Ah, then try it this way -
Israel (the femine aspect of it) demonstrated by Rachel/Leah, mostly Rachel, and demonstrated by Mary, and yes, demonstrated by a body of believers, could be considered "mother"
With these tweaks -
"feminine aspect" referring to primarliy emotional influence and correction, not so much revelatory or instructive influence or correction.
And Mary, being a virgin, referring to the part of that emotional influence that is not tainted by anything.
Mary, being a virgin, Jesus "mother", is a representation that His emotional journey towards His ministry was untainted by the world's ideas of emotion.
An example would be, that as a child, if He saw a boy beat up another boy, He could choose to feel sorry for the victim only, or also feel sorry for the perpetrator, because he is exibiting "lost" behavior.
The world teaches us to only feel sorry for the victim.
Jesus's "virgin mother" teaches Him to feel sorry for both. And it's especially applicable if the victim feels sorry for the perpetrator. This is an even deeper point, that isn't even necessarily taught by the world, because it physically hurts to get beat up.
If a victim feels sorry for the perpetrator, it's especially indicative of having a "virgin mother", spiritually speaking.
Whatever it is that influences these kinds of emotional views, be it a real mother, another person exampling emotion, or something inside the believer, that is the "mother"
Try another example -
When you go to church, the praise and worship service is a mother, the preacher is a father, and sunday school is a brother.
Israel (the femine aspect of it) demonstrated by Rachel/Leah, mostly Rachel, and demonstrated by Mary, and yes, demonstrated by a body of believers, could be considered "mother"
With these tweaks -
"feminine aspect" referring to primarliy emotional influence and correction, not so much revelatory or instructive influence or correction.
And Mary, being a virgin, referring to the part of that emotional influence that is not tainted by anything.
Mary, being a virgin, Jesus "mother", is a representation that His emotional journey towards His ministry was untainted by the world's ideas of emotion.
An example would be, that as a child, if He saw a boy beat up another boy, He could choose to feel sorry for the victim only, or also feel sorry for the perpetrator, because he is exibiting "lost" behavior.
The world teaches us to only feel sorry for the victim.
Jesus's "virgin mother" teaches Him to feel sorry for both. And it's especially applicable if the victim feels sorry for the perpetrator. This is an even deeper point, that isn't even necessarily taught by the world, because it physically hurts to get beat up.
If a victim feels sorry for the perpetrator, it's especially indicative of having a "virgin mother", spiritually speaking.
Whatever it is that influences these kinds of emotional views, be it a real mother, another person exampling emotion, or something inside the believer, that is the "mother"
Try another example -
When you go to church, the praise and worship service is a mother, the preacher is a father, and sunday school is a brother.
N
When it comes to Rev 2:26 , there are conditions that have to be met: " And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end," . This is not just about having faith, this is about all things concerned with end time events.
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as pot shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Now Christ rules, or even shepherds. Those broken are the wicked, and unbelieving in God's words: for instance a church, that would teach contrary to God's Word.
If your part of a church like Thyatira, consider it " a bowl of potter", with Christ taking His rod of iron and smashing it to pieces.
If your not learning what the two churches Christ is happy with taught, you wont make it just on faith alone. We have to listen to the instruction of the one we have faith in.
All the direction that Jesus Christ dose on the Lords Day, is directly from the Heavenly Father.
All those judgments of God are given in love.
Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as pot shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Now Christ rules, or even shepherds. Those broken are the wicked, and unbelieving in God's words: for instance a church, that would teach contrary to God's Word.
If your part of a church like Thyatira, consider it " a bowl of potter", with Christ taking His rod of iron and smashing it to pieces.
If your not learning what the two churches Christ is happy with taught, you wont make it just on faith alone. We have to listen to the instruction of the one we have faith in.
All the direction that Jesus Christ dose on the Lords Day, is directly from the Heavenly Father.
All those judgments of God are given in love.
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The reason it is the physical birth of Christ ( Revelation 12 ), aside from it being singular woman, and child, and the rod of Iron mentioned . The women is of Israel; as Mary was , and Christ came. And Christ, was called up to God, as written there, and recorded in all the Bible, to sit at the right hand of God.
The church comes later, after that. Not before. And even Revelation 12 shows this. The church at the end, of the chapter not the start.
The church comes later, after that. Not before. And even Revelation 12 shows this. The church at the end, of the chapter not the start.
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Jesus' mother is heavenly Jerusalem, the "mother of us all"......
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Who is "of us all"... Jesus and the church!
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Who is "of us all"... Jesus and the church!
N
That is fine if you chose to believe that....
I can't, myself: because its not written . I'm going on what is presented there in those verses and chapters. I cant read anything else in there aside from what the subject states.
For example: "heavenly Jerusalem" ; Its just not written, in the verses you mentioned...
If; you can document the verse says "Christ mother " , then okay... If not, then I can't see why a person would try and fit that into there ?
I can't, myself: because its not written . I'm going on what is presented there in those verses and chapters. I cant read anything else in there aside from what the subject states.
For example: "heavenly Jerusalem" ; Its just not written, in the verses you mentioned...
If; you can document the verse says "Christ mother " , then okay... If not, then I can't see why a person would try and fit that into there ?
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Is that awesome or what... I love my Lord... there is nothing more fulfilling in this life than to have the Lord show us one of his hidden treasures.
And, to go a little farther with this, the woman gives birth and the man child is "caught up" to God's throne...
Rev_12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I love my King James Bible.... Thank you Lord!
And, to go a little farther with this, the woman gives birth and the man child is "caught up" to God's throne...
Rev_12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I love my King James Bible.... Thank you Lord!
N
If this is to try and to replace Christ resurrection to the right hand of God; with Rapture ,, that will not fly in God's eyes. It is not written.
I see that's why your attempting to cram a different, subject into the verses you mentioned.
Rapture is not written there. And the church is certainly not the subject in Rev 12 at the start, but Christ Himself. Defiantly not a rapture at Christ return . And Christ is certainly not coming before the false Christ as written . Mark 13 for example; and II Thessalonians 2..
I see that's why your attempting to cram a different, subject into the verses you mentioned.
Rapture is not written there. And the church is certainly not the subject in Rev 12 at the start, but Christ Himself. Defiantly not a rapture at Christ return . And Christ is certainly not coming before the false Christ as written . Mark 13 for example; and II Thessalonians 2..
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God was Jesus mother and Father. He said my only begotton son. Saying he made him. Everywhere Jesus went the Father went traveling as one. Now the scripture you bring up, you must look at it in spirit. God is our Father and Jesus is The Son. So Jesus is your brother but Lord. Remember you are a part of a royal family now. God is good.