Who is the woman in Rev 12:5?

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willybob

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In other metaphoric descriptions, the word of God is a fire upon the whole world, it either purifies the righteous, or it consumes the wicked.....It is the rock of truth that one is broken upon in repentance, or crushed under in rebellion...
 
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willybob

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Old Jerusalem (who is liken to Sodom & Egypt) was made to be desolate forever, never to be again, as Jesus said "I leave unto you your house desolate"

New Jerusalem, the church, is the holy city of Gods peculiar people. The church; the bride of Christ; saints; the righteous; New Jerusalem; believers. The Revelation of Jesus Christ and He sent and signified it in a rich code of symbols by His angel and then presented to His servant John. Revelation 1-1

The symbolism found in Revelation is to show future things that reveal the entirety of the church age. New Jerusalem, are God’s holy people {spiritual Jews} set apart in a spiritual kingdom during the gospel age. The children of the Kingdom enter after regeneration of the Spirit, being born anew. New Jerusalem, has been, and is, and shall continue to be built until time shall be no more, at the close of the gospel age, ending His office as Redeemer, when He shall deliver the kingdom back up to God, thus ushering in eternity, 1 Cor. 15-24. The New Jerusalem is the dwelling place of the triumphant church, the Christians, Gods' elect lively stones, the overcomers, the saints, the believers, and the 144,00. Then the bride of Christ, the new city, comes down from God out of heaven to become the New Heavens and New Earth. Because Jesus rose from Abrahams' Bosom (the grave), He was presented as the first fruits to God. Therefore, now, it appears, that when the NT saints die, their living spirits/souls go to be with the Lord to wait for the completion of His Kingdom, the new heavens and earth, and awaiting their resurrection bodies..

I. The saints and NJ are both called "the Bride" of "the Lamb," and are illustrated as decorated for marriage.

The Saints:
Rev 19-6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
This is in Ephesians 5 as well

New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.And I saw the holy city,

9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; new Jerusalem, coming down.


2 The church and NJ are both called "the dwelling place of God."

The Church:
Ephesians 2-22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God

3. Believers and New Jerusalem both posses living water (the Holy Spirit).

Believers:
John 7-38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.

New Jerusalem:
Revelation 22-1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

4. The righteous and New Jerusalem both have paths of light and purity.

The Righteous:
I John 1-5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Proverbs 4-18 But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.


New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24 And the nations of them (those of various nationalities) which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

5. The church and NJ are both built on foundations of the apostles.

The Church:
Ephesians 2-19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:


New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

6. The church and NJ both posses eternal life and produce fruit by the Spirit.

The Church

1 John 5-13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Galatians 5-22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.


New Jerusalem:
Revelation 22-2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

7. The church and NJ are both built as lively stones.

The Church:
1 Peter 2-4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. {made up of people from all nations}The first foundation was jasper the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

8 The blameless and NJ both have a dimension of 144,000.
(the 144,000 are descriptive of the NT saints)

The Church:
Revelation 14-1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. (the mark of God Ezek 9) 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

New Jerusalem:
Revelation 21-16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. {144,000 cubed, the house of the remnant} In the text 12 is symbolic for the number of God's governemnt, 12x12, 144

Willie
 

notbythesword

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Revelation 12:5 KJV
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

I think she's heavenly Jerusalem, the mother of us all.... who do you think she is and why?
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