Who is this Angel?
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Colossians 1;15 - ".............................., the first born of all creation."
CHRIST appeared to Abraham with two other angels.
CHRIST wrestle with Jacob.
This angel had an authority like GOD, as HE spoke to them and to others as you all have quoted. Please note the way HE spoke, unlike the famous angel Gabriel and any other angels.
Hebrew 1;14
'JESUS was called the second Adam, the spirit man.'
CHRIST appeared to Abraham with two other angels.
CHRIST wrestle with Jacob.
This angel had an authority like GOD, as HE spoke to them and to others as you all have quoted. Please note the way HE spoke, unlike the famous angel Gabriel and any other angels.
Hebrew 1;14
'JESUS was called the second Adam, the spirit man.'
So in truth, Jesus is Lord of the Old Testament as will as the New Testament.
Deuteronomy 6:4
4 Hear , O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Zechariah 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one
Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear , O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:5-6
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
You ever wonder why some people are so bent on separating the Word of God from the Words of Jesus, Moses, the prophets, Paul, Peter, John, etc.? Who is behind this?
Deuteronomy 6:4
4 Hear , O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Zechariah 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one
Mark 12:29
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear , O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
1 Corinthians 8:6
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:5-6
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
You ever wonder why some people are so bent on separating the Word of God from the Words of Jesus, Moses, the prophets, Paul, Peter, John, etc.? Who is behind this?
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Can you provide a verifiable reference for this, brother...?
Not so.
Gen 6.9 informs the reader that Noah actually physically walked with 'Ha-elohim' (literally all The Gods! i.e. The Trinity).
These are the generations of Noah. Noah, a righteous man, had been perfected among his family. Noah walked with God.
Again...not so.
Gen 12.7...
And Yahweh appeared to Abram and said, I will give this land to your seed. And he built an altar there to Yahweh, who appeared to him.
Appearing....and walking with....signify more than just 'hearing' God....
Paul, in Heb 11v26, in writing to the Hebrews, in using the term “Christ” clearly teaches that Moses’ Lord was none other than the pre-incarnate Christ, “God the Word” (John 1v1-3), Who in Exodus 3v2 is also called “The Angel of The Lord,” (which is in Hebrew, “Yahweh Mal'ak” i.e. “The Angel, The Lord” (two nouns in opposition), there is no “of” in the Hebrew, and better translated “Yahweh Messenger,” Christ was not only “The Sent One” of the Father under the New Covenant, but He was also “The Sent One” of Yahweh (the Father) under the Old Covenant. John 6v57.) and in Exodus 3v14, “I AM THAT I AM” “Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh,” which is translated into the Greek of the Septuagint as, “ego eimi ho ohn.” In the second half of Exodus 3v14, “Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh” is shortened to “Ehyeh,” that is, “I am,” that the Septuagint translates as “oh ohn,” i.e. “the one who is.” However, in most other places in the Septuagint, “ego eimi” is used to translate the Hebrew “Ehyeh.” e.g. Deut 32v39. And in John 8v58 it states, “Before Abraham was, 'genesthai,' I am,” “egoó eimí,” i.e. timeless existence.” Out dear Lord Jesus is none other then the Great “I AM” of the Old Testament. (In the passage where Jesus walked on the water, He was not merely saying, “It is I,” but rather, as “ego eimi” really means, “I Am.” Matt 14v27, Mark 6v50, John 6v20, John 8v24,28, 13v19).
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what is your prob?
spitting curses and verses without understanding....
Is there a limit in condemning?
And one angel?who told that?
Is this some kind of making fun of Holy Scripture?
Are you drunk?what's with this spitting out harsh words?
did i ask about your self righteous life?manners,please.......
spitting curses and verses without understanding....
Is there a limit in condemning?
And one angel?who told that?
Is this some kind of making fun of Holy Scripture?
Are you drunk?what's with this spitting out harsh words?
did i ask about your self righteous life?manners,please.......
This chosen angel (are ministering spirit) from the beginning and HIS, being in what form or title or name, who was also chosen before the foundation of this world or even Heaven by GOD HIMSELF, 'first to be created before all creation', was then later after all creation and multiplication and subjection, is prophesied by all the chosen Jewish Prophets, that 'GOD Himself will shepherd HIS sheep one day', someone to come in HIS 'fullness and likeness', from through a created 'spirit man', a placed 'seed of eternal life'. in 'a virgin womb', 'the mentioned Prophet to come after me', declared by Moses himself and to whom 'all will have to listen to, for GOD HIMSELF, will make sure HE requires this from all of them', the future 'KING of Israel' to restore peace, to come from the 'line of David and the tribe of Judah', through 'a virgin birth', 'who will be called IMMANUEL', born in the 'city of David, Bethlehem'.
Due to men's wickedness and violence, HE was then called 'JESUS of Nazareth', known to have come from Galilee, that was doubted by many as, 'can anything Good come from Galilee?'.
Due to men's wickedness and violence, HE was then called 'JESUS of Nazareth', known to have come from Galilee, that was doubted by many as, 'can anything Good come from Galilee?'.
"THE" Angel of the Lord...Meaning worldly...manifest...flesh...but also carrying over the attributes of the unknown or undefined. I will multiply thy seed exceedingly; "Here am I" even though Jacob was in a dream; Redeemed me from all evil; Burning bush not consumed by the fire; Cloud that stood behind them;I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place (for my name is in him.); I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said , I will never break my covenant with you.
"HE" is the angel of the LORD
"HE" is the angel of the LORD
This is HE...God saw the light that it was good so God divides the light from the darkness...now we need something to minister to that which God finds less than "good". Therefore HE calls the darkness Night.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
More scripture shedding light on "HE"
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]He came unto his own, and his own received him not.