Who is/was/will be THE False Prophet of the Book of Revelation?

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PeteWaldo

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Flamingspirit, I didn't realize you were a Muslim or I wouldn't have discussed so much eschatological scripture, since you likely haven't even read the Gospel. Why not watch a few videos of your former brethren, that have come to know the love of the one true God, through a personal relationship with His Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ?
THE LOVE OF THE ONE TRUE GOD

You can view some of their testimonies at the following link (the site is temporarily down and likely under attack for the moment):
A Muslim Journey to Hope
 
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Yes I can, and I did, in a well reasoned consistent fashion. What is the king/beast that had "not yet come" to John's first century, if not the false prophet Muhammad's Islamic kingdom beast, that followed the Roman Empire in Israel? What is the matter of fact historical succession of kingdoms in John's whole world?
JOHN'S EIGHT BEASTS



I certainly am looking for a particular false prophet, because the scriptures make a distinction regarding one false prophet in particular, as opposed to the rest, throughout history.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.



Then what does the following tell you about the false prophet Muhammad and his blasphemy against the Son of God?

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



When did you hear on TV that each and every one of Muhammad's followers must deny the crucifixion of Christ, and thus His shed blood, as an article of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad alone? That is, reject the whole subject of the Gospel, to follow the false prophet Muhammad.

When did you hear on TV that each and every Muslim must deny that Jesus is the Son of God, as another article of their faith, in the false prophet Muhammad alone?

You see, Muhammad filled his followers with complete resolve not as much to believe, as to what to DISbelieve, REJECT and DENY.

When was the last time you saw an honest assessment of the murder, mayhem and misery Muhammad's orthodox followers are perpetrating against civilized society all around the world?
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

And the anti-scripture anti-history kinds of things Muhammad did teach his followers is to believe that it is OK to prostrate oneself toward the very same black stone idol in Mecca, that the Quraish pagans venerated, before Muhammad was ever born. He even compels his followers to travel to that stone idol and march around it, as the Arabian pagans did in moon, sun and star worship before Muhammad was ever born.
THE HAJJ AND UMRAH

Taught them to believe it was OK to run back and forth between al-Safa and al-Marwah as the Arabian jinn-devil worshipers did before Muhammad was ever born:
THE HAJJ AND UMRAH



What extreme? Those are matters of fact as revealed through our respective books. Just like Muhammad's followers being commanded to fight, non-Muslims until we are subdued and submitted to them.
JIHAD AND ISLAMIC TERRORISM



Indeed. Only the path to it:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

God gave us all the free will to accept or reject Him.



Oh sure, and all paths lead to paradise, whether Hitler, Polpot or the imperialism, slaughter and subjugation of the mass-murderer Muhammad eigh?
BANU QURAYZA MASSACRE
You may continue to look for a particular false prophet. You may very well find what you seek. But for me, in the vert same book you look for that also states that the testimony of Jesus Christ IS the spirit of prophesy. Muhammad and Hitler is dead, and you are judging millions off of what a book may say. That's like believing all Christians do all of what the bible contains.

All of these links aside, who do YOU know that acts like you read millions of Muslims to be? Odds are none, so for me I try to be realistic in my approach. America has gangs too. Do you understand why these things are so? Now as bad as they can seem, why aren't they acting as those you see on the links? I'm sure it's as many gang members in America as those causing the problems in the Middle East. How come they don't revolt here in our country? They can't even if they wanted to because there is no money backing them! All of what you see is an orchestrated movie using the people as both sheep an actors.

I cannot not tell you much about Islam, but the religion is not important. If it makes money, then it is a business! The truth is that the pope owns all three major religions. The books were written and put together in these regions of the world for the very purpose of division.

Even we who take the bible as the inspired word of God, it was Constantine who headed those who put it together.

Wrath is on all sinners, therefore all must come to Christ. What does that mean? Lip service?
 
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Flamingspirit, I didn't realize you were a Muslim or I wouldn't have discussed so much eschatological scripture, since you likely haven't even read the Gospel. Why not watch a few videos of your former brethren, that have come to know the love of the one true God, through a personal relationship with His Son, our Savior, Jesus Christ?
THE LOVE OF THE ONE TRUE GOD

You can view some of their testimonies at the following link (the site is temporarily down and likely under attack for the moment):
A Muslim Journey to Hope
I am not a Muslim. He only calls me one because I won't condemn a man simply for being Muslim.
 
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The false prophet is representative of all the false teachers who would arise in the last time. The false prophet is already here and so is the beast.

[video=youtube;XPuhbm74JRU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPuhbm74JRU[/video]
 
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PeteWaldo

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You may continue to look for a particular false prophet. You may very well find what you seek. But for me, in the vert same book you look for that also states that the testimony of Jesus Christ IS the spirit of prophesy. Muhammad and Hitler is dead, and you are judging millions off of what a book may say.
That's false. I am judging the false prophet Muhammad and what 1.5 billion are expected to believe and do through his Quran and Hadith, just as I have detailed, which besides the recycled pagan worship includes rejecting the whole subject of the Gospel and denying the Son of God. And to conquer and subjugate others to doing the same as is binding on Muhammad's followers in the Quran - just as the Quran itself says.

Which is the direct opposite of what Jesus commands His followers to do through the Gospel.

Mark 12:29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:


[video=youtube;TfjYeQzCwzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TfjYeQzCwzU[/video]

I'm judging the false prophet Muhammad and his counter-gospel anti-religion. I'll continue to leave the judgment of those so sorely deluded by Muhammad, up to the very Son of God that they deny and blaspheme:

Jhn 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

That's like believing all Christians do all of what the bible contains.
Gee, wouldn't it be an awful world if all Christians did all of what we are commanded and not only loved our neighbors as ourselves, but even loved our enemies:

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


My desperation for Muslims is why I devote myself full time to helping them overcome the false prophet. If I hated Muslims the best way I could express that is to ignore them, and simply let them continue down the road they are on, unimpeded. All "tolerating" Islam does, is encourage those poor folks to continue to run away from and blaspheme the Gospel.

"Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." ~ G. K. Chesterton


“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.” ~ Aristotle


All of these links aside, who do YOU know that acts like you read millions of Muslims to be? Odds are none, so for me I try to be realistic in my approach.
Yes the world is lucky that the majority of Muhammad's followers are heterodox Muslims, outside of orthodoxy, that don't have the stomach to fight and slay as is binding on them in the Quran. "Hypocrites" as their orthodox brethren refer to them. Muhammad had words, for those whose conscience was getting in the way, too:

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #216 fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

America has gangs too. Do you understand why these things are so?
Because they are Godless. Why waste time with more strawman arguments, by wandering off on the very same nonsense that Muhammad's followers do when their backs are against the wall, by pretending that western culture = Christianity, or all non-Muslims = Christianity.

Now as bad as they can seem, why aren't they acting as those you see on the links? I'm sure it's as many gang members in America as those causing the problems in the Middle East.
Doesn't that ridiculous claim even embarrass you?

How come they don't revolt here in our country?
One single reason, just like everywhere else they aren't. There isn't enough of them yet.
THE BEAST

They can't even if they wanted to because there is no money backing them! All of what you see is an orchestrated movie using the people as both sheep an actors.

I cannot not tell you much about Islam, but the religion is not important.
What you mean is that you live a cushy enough life, and are selfish enough, to make it unimportant to you.

CNS reports
: "Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)."


That's for the year 2011, and that percentage doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders. Thus it should be obvious to all non-Muslims, that the world would be largely at peace today, if the followers of Muhammad had not been commanded to "fight and slay" non-Muslims in the "cause" of "Allah".


From the Hoover Institute
: "Few people realize that we are today living through the largest persecution of Christians in history, worse even than the famous attacks under ancient Roman emperors like Diocletian and Nero. Estimates of the numbers of Christians under assault range from 100-200 million."

"And most of this persecution is taking place at the hands of Muslims. Of the top fifty countries persecuting Christians, forty-two have either a Muslim majority or have sizeable Muslim populations.


If it makes money, then it is a business! The truth is that the pope owns all three major religions. The books were written and put together in these regions of the world for the very purpose of division.

Even we who take the bible as the inspired word of God, it was Constantine who headed those who put it together.

Wrath is on all sinners, therefore all must come to Christ. What does that mean? Lip service?
No shortage of that going on around here.
Sorry but I can't justify spending any more time with someone whose cognitive function is so impaired by wishful nonsense.
 
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That's a lot to read. I ask you this. Can a Christian love a Muslim as himself and vice versa? If so then all the law is fulfilled!
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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I am not a Muslim. He only calls me one because I won't condemn a man simply for being Muslim.

YOU ARE TOO A MUSLIMS STOP LYING!!! YOU WORSHIP OTHER RELIGIONS GODS AS WELL. YOU'RE ONE CONFUSED INDIVIDUAL! SERIOUSLY YOU ARE!

That's a lot to read. I ask you this. Can a Christian love a Muslim as himself and vice versa? If so then all the law is fulfilled!
WELCOME TO OUR WORLD! KINDA REMINDS TYPICALLY OF YOU AND YOUR NOVEL POSTS AS IF ANYONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO A HYBRID MUSLIM. AND YOU ARE A MUSLIM. STOP LYING! WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING! OH THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE ISLAM DOESN'T CONDEMN LIARS YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOLD TO LIE TO INFIDELS AREN'T YOU!
 

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The false prophet is simply the congregations of the church age who say they are in Christ but are not. It is anyone who does not receive Christ but claims to be Christ's own. Conversely, a true prophet is any true believer in Christ.
 
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PeteWaldo

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The false prophet is simply the congregations of the church age who say they are in Christ but are not. It is anyone who does not receive Christ but claims to be Christ's own. Conversely, a true prophet is any true believer in Christ.
So then the false prophet Muhammad, who fills his 1.5 billion followers - 1/4 of mankind in the world today - with complete resolve to DISbelieve the crucifixion of Christ, and thus REJECT His shed blood, and DENY the Son of God as articles of their faith - rendering each and every one an antichrist - isn't a false prophet?
THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD