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Absolutely. There is no question that repentance and genuine faith are two sides of the same coin. As long as we are clear that it is obedience to the Gospel that brings salvation, not works of righteousness which we have done.
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. (Acts 20:21).
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. (Acts 20:21).
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ooh! you said "equation" 
((overly long, esoteric post goes here showing that Romans 10:17 is a set of mathematically smooth functions therefore the inverse composite exists and is also differentiable))
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i thought that {d, e, f} make it very plain that it is the will and the work of God, who leaves none of His will undone ((Isaiah 46:10 goes here)).
lemmee explain my thinking:
these are all wrapped up here:
it is the word of His mouth that accomplishes His will ((Genesis 1 goes here)), not that which hears His word. and He makes the ear that hears ((Proverbs 20:12 goes here)). that's f - hearing comes from the Word, and faith comes through hearing. the composite: faith comes from the Word of God. faith in Christ comes from Christ; that's e. the purpose that is accomplished by His word is His own desire, all of it, so it is His will that is done, and it does not fail. d.
and of course, Jesus Christ is the Word ((John 1 assumed throughout)).
((overly long, esoteric post goes here showing that Romans 10:17 is a set of mathematically smooth functions therefore the inverse composite exists and is also differentiable))
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i thought that {d, e, f} make it very plain that it is the will and the work of God, who leaves none of His will undone ((Isaiah 46:10 goes here)).
lemmee explain my thinking:
these are all wrapped up here:
. . so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.
(Isaiah 55:11)
(Isaiah 55:11)
it is the word of His mouth that accomplishes His will ((Genesis 1 goes here)), not that which hears His word. and He makes the ear that hears ((Proverbs 20:12 goes here)). that's f - hearing comes from the Word, and faith comes through hearing. the composite: faith comes from the Word of God. faith in Christ comes from Christ; that's e. the purpose that is accomplished by His word is His own desire, all of it, so it is His will that is done, and it does not fail. d.
and of course, Jesus Christ is the Word ((John 1 assumed throughout)).
True biblical belief is of the heart - not in the head or mind. God looks on the heart - man look on the outward appearance.
Getting "saved" is simple but it is not cheap - It cost our Lord His life and Blood to "obtain eternal redemption" for us. Hebrews 9:12
Romans 10:9-10 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
The process is simple too.
1) we hear the message of Christ - the gospel of our salvation in Him
2) we believe the message from our hearts
3) we were sealed with the Holy Spirit
( Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever - now was Jesus lying or is he like a "bait and switch" car salesman that has "fine print" which He doesn't talk about )
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, = 1)
the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, = 2)
you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, = 3)
you were sealed = aorist indicative tense / passive voice = a one time event in the past.
Passive voice = the sealing was not done by us but by an outside force - the Holy Spirit Himself.
Getting "saved" is simple but it is not cheap - It cost our Lord His life and Blood to "obtain eternal redemption" for us. Hebrews 9:12
Romans 10:9-10 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
The process is simple too.
1) we hear the message of Christ - the gospel of our salvation in Him
2) we believe the message from our hearts
3) we were sealed with the Holy Spirit
( Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever - now was Jesus lying or is he like a "bait and switch" car salesman that has "fine print" which He doesn't talk about )
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, = 1)
the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, = 2)
you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, = 3)
you were sealed = aorist indicative tense / passive voice = a one time event in the past.
Passive voice = the sealing was not done by us but by an outside force - the Holy Spirit Himself.
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Almost getting you, but there is a flaw...
in me.
Communications degree. I went to college to become an English teacher, except for one tiny little detail. I royally stink at grammar. And that's American grammar. I'm great at American grammar compared to understanding foreign languages. (If grammar is "stink," than foreign language is "smells like a landfill covered up by sewage.") So, I honestly don't know what aorist means, even after looking it up. I do know what indicative means, except when it comes to grammar.
So all that to ask if I'm hearing you right, once again.
Are you saying the Holy Spirit sealed the deal? (Call that translating English into English.)
If so, to you, is that the same as "Jesus saves?" And God is cause and we are effect?
If it is, then we're on the same page. If I'm still not getting what you're saying can you translate your English into American without any references whatsoever to grammar? (Or html, simply because I have the same dead spot for computer language that I have for foreign language or our language.)
in me.
Communications degree. I went to college to become an English teacher, except for one tiny little detail. I royally stink at grammar. And that's American grammar. I'm great at American grammar compared to understanding foreign languages. (If grammar is "stink," than foreign language is "smells like a landfill covered up by sewage.") So, I honestly don't know what aorist means, even after looking it up. I do know what indicative means, except when it comes to grammar.
So all that to ask if I'm hearing you right, once again.
Are you saying the Holy Spirit sealed the deal? (Call that translating English into English.)
If so, to you, is that the same as "Jesus saves?" And God is cause and we are effect?
If it is, then we're on the same page. If I'm still not getting what you're saying can you translate your English into American without any references whatsoever to grammar? (Or html, simply because I have the same dead spot for computer language that I have for foreign language or our language.)
Hi resurrection.
Scripture tells us that Jesus is the door/gate:
John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
Of course, it goes without saying, if we've been saved, we will repent. We are saved by Jesus, through faith (living, genuine) and grace alone. Eph 2:8-9, James 2:26.
Scripture tells us that Jesus is the door/gate:
John 10:9
I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.
Of course, it goes without saying, if we've been saved, we will repent. We are saved by Jesus, through faith (living, genuine) and grace alone
. Eph 2:8-9, James 2:26.