WHY DO SOME THINK THE 1000 YEAR REIGN OF CHRIST IS IN THE PAST OR FUTURE ?

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Bookends

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How about present! or Past, present and future.
 
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TODAY is the day of salvation! Jesus lives forever more. How many years is that?

This is symbolic of those who have Christ in them.
 

phil36

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present, as in from the cross till the parousia (when Christ returns)
 

john832

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TODAY is the day of salvation! Jesus lives forever more. How many years is that?

This is symbolic of those who have Christ in them.
Today is not the only day, in fact it is not the great day of salvation, II Cor 6:2 gets quoted a lot, but it is not quoted correctly very often...

2Co 6:2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

This is actually a direct quote from Isa 49:8...

Isa 49:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

There is more than one day of salvation as the Daiglott plainly renders II Cor 6:2...

2Co 6:2 (he says for: In a season acceptable I listened to thee and in a day of salvation I helped thee. Lo, now a season well accepted, lo, now a day of salvation.)

Paul reveals this...

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Was Israel being saved then? Notice verse 27, future tense, when this happens...

Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

This has not occurred, YET but it will...

Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

It happens after the Millenium in the Great White Throne Judgment.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
 

clarkthompson

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I don't know. But I believe Jesus will set up His trone on earth on day.
 
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TrevorL

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Greetings danielseveneighteen,
Where do you stand ? past or future ?
I believe it is future. One basis is the prophecy in Daniel 2 where there is depicted four successive world empires that are usually identified with Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. The fourth kingdom or empire is depicted as sub-divided in its latter end between strong and weak kingdoms. At the latter end of these God intervenes to establish his kingdom.
Daniel 2:35 (KJV): Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
Daniel 2:44 (KJV): And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


There are many other prophecies when taken literally also depict this future reign of Christ upon the earth for 1000 years. I started a thread on Psalm 72 recently, but also consider the following as a transition from the kingdoms of men to the kingdom of God, centred in Jerusalem, with our Lord Jesus Christ reigning upon the throne of David:
Isaiah 2:1-4 (KJV): 1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

PlainWord

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The 1,000 year reign of the Lord is future and coming soon. The Day of the Lord lasts 1,000 years. It takes the Lord that long (by choice) to rule and to place all His enemies under His feet (His footstool Psm 110). Jesus rules for 1,000 years and then comes the end of the old earth. We are told all of this in 2 Peter 3:

[SUP]8 [/SUP]But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. [SUP]

9 [/SUP]The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.


[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, [SUP]

12 [/SUP]looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.


The Day of the Lord is not a literal day. It last 1,000 years. See how Peter tells us this? The Lord comes, gathers his elect, resurrects the martyred and sets up His millennial reign on earth. He defeats the Beast and His armies at Armageddon. He separates the sheep from the goat nations - Mat 25. Those nations who were good to His people and who were righteous, he blesses while he punishes the wicked nations. He rules the nations with a rod of iron. Zech 14. The Lord does not wish for any to perish so he gives mankind 1,000 years without Satanic influence, and still allows free choice. At the end of the 1,000 years, Satan is released for a short time to once again deceive. Then comes the end. God the Father returns with the rest of the dead for the final resurrection at which time all dead are raised and judged. The heavens and earth pass away and the new heaven and new earth are made.