Why do you believe the law is not binding on Christians?

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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
God wants, before anything else, that we love the Lord with all hearts, with all our minds, and with all our soul. God created us and God created our world, knowing that is our first priority. It is through that we are given grace and eternal life.

The law was given for those who love Him, it is for our benefit so we can live in harmony with the Lord and with our world. The law is for those who have received grace.
 
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On judgment day, when God takes out the book, and asks why you didnt keep the Sabbath, what are you going to say?

Oh, I thought you did away with that.

That is not going to fly.
 
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On judgment day, when God takes out the book, and asks why you didnt keep the Sabbath, what are you going to say?

Oh, I thought you did away with that.

That is not going to fly.
*Sigh* One record, keeps a-spinning.
 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
Both the Law and the Gospel teach a righteousness which is acceptable to God. When God gave His Law He said: Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy (Leviticus 19:2). He did not say, Keep My commandments as best you can. I will be satisfied with that. In His Law God demands perfection. Those who seek to be saved by keeping the Law, must keep God's Law perfectly. Every thought, word, and deed must be perfect. But can such perfection be attained? The Scriptures reveal that salvation through the Law is impossible. All who rely on observing the Law are under a curse, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything in the Book of the Law (Galatians 3:10). The bible describes our own righteousness as nothing but filthy rags. God directs us, therefore, to the perfect righteousness- the righteousness of Christ. Christ is the end of the Law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes (Romans 10:4). Christ, the Righteous One, kept God's Law perfectly for us and suffered and died in payment for our sins. NO LONGER ARE WE COMPELLED TO KEEP THE LAW FOR OUR SALVATION. Rather, we are invited to believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior from sin. Faith in Him makes us right with God. Such is the glorious message of the Gospel.

The Law produces sorrow; the Gospel brings joy. The Law makes men afraid of God, the righteous Judge; the Gospel causes sinners to love and trust their Lord.

The Pharisees knew the Law of Moses, and they attempted to keep it. They believed that they could make themselves righteous in the sight of God. They were so zealous that they added to God's Law hundreds of rules and traditions of their own. But all their attempts to keep the Law produced neither believers in God nor followers of Christ. Jesus called them hypocrites and pronounced God's judgement upon them.

We can teach the Law but that knowledge will not make us love the Lord nor move us to lead a life that pleases God. Why not? The Apostle writes: The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (2 Cor 3:6). the letter is the Law; the Spirit comes through the Gospel. The Law does not give true spiritual life, but destroys it. The HS through the Gospel alone creates a saving faith in the sinner's heart.

Ask and it shall be given you....
 
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The law was given to all, and it was given to give us a venue to show our love for God and our faith in God, With out laws,our lives would be chaos, no direction in which to go. The only question in debate is ,what laws are for us today? The moral laws for sure , any others rules we want to make for our selves are ok, with God ,if we don't force them on others, with the exception of minors and citizens who vote for the law and most law have exceptions. Most adults know when there are no laws ,chaos rules. Love to all Hoffco
 
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For it is Written: Pay attention and learn:

Let’s start with an emphasis on continuity. A passage like Matthew 5:17-19 can be used to argue that all Old Testament laws are still in force. Jesus didn’t do away with any of God’s laws. Rather, he emphasized that we ought to obey God not only in our actions, but also in our hearts. We have to keep every Old Testament law in the spirit, in its attitude and purpose. God’s laws are written in our hearts and minds (Hebrews 8:10). They are internalized, so we should want to keep them. Hebrews 8:10 is a quote of Jeremiah 31:31-33, one could argue, and the laws that Jeremiah had in mind were the laws that were valid in his day: the old covenant laws. They were all given by God.

If this line of reasoning is correct, our love for God will motivate us to be circumcised, to keep the Jubilee year and sabbatical years. We will be diligent to avoid all forms of uncleanness, and we will wear phylacteries and only pure fabrics. We will offer sacrifices, not only for sin but also for fellowship offerings and thank offerings. When Jeremiah described the kingdom of God, old covenant customs were included.

These laws are still valid – but, as we know, they are applied in a spiritual way. The application of the law has been transformed by the coming of Jesus Christ. If our hearts are circumcised, it does not matter whether we have been circumcised in the flesh. If we are offering spiritual sacrifices, we do not need to offer animals.

If we are always forgiving debts and liberating people from bondage, we do not have to do anything different on sabbatical years. If we are treating our livestock and farmland properly, we do not have to do anything different on sabbatical years. If we live by the spirit, the letter of these laws is not required.

If we examine our hearts for corruption and are being cleansed by Jesus Christ, then we do not have destroy houses that have mildew. If our thoughts are pure, we don’t have to worry about our fabrics. If we are always thinking of God and his laws, we don’t have to wear phylacteries. The laws are valid, but the way in which we obey them has been transformed by the coming of Jesus Christ.

The Old Testament clearly commanded the Israelites to wear blue threads in tassels on their garments (Numbers 15:38-39). Was this law inspired by God, or not? Answer: It was. Is this law obsolete? Answer: It is. Who has the authority to declare a God-given law obsolete? Answer: Only God.

Does the New Testament specifically rescind this law? Answer: No. It says nothing about this specific law. Then how can we prove, with divine authority, that it is obsolete? Answer: Because the New Testament declares the entire old covenant obsolete (Hebrews 8:13). As a law code, as a source of laws, it is not valid.

That brings us to our second approach to Old Testament law: None of it is valid. Christians do not have to keep the law of Moses because those laws were a temporary package, designed to be in force only until the Messiah came. Now that he has come and given us a better covenant, the first is obsolete.

But, some say, we should keep both the letter and the spirit of this law. It is easy to make that claim, but there is no proof for it – and there is certainly no reason to condemn people on the basis of a different interpretation of how we should obey God. It is just as easy to make the claim that people truly abiding by the spirit of the tassels will also be wearing tassels. The flaw of such logic is exposed by the realization that the new covenant declares the old contract obsolete. We must focus on the spirit and purpose of the laws.

A Sabbatarian approach to the Sabbath emphasizes Matthew 5:17-19, and that usually leads to a distorted meaning for such verses as Colossians 2:16 and Romans 14:5.

However, after we recognize that the letter of some Old Testament laws is obsolete, then we realize that Matthew 5:17-19 has to be qualified or restricted in some way. So do Romans 3:20, 31; 7:12, 14 and other verses of continuity. These verses do not tell us which specific laws are still in force, and they do not prove the continued validity of any specific law. They are general, not specific.

Once we recognize that some Old Testament laws, although still valid in purpose, are obsolete in the letter, then we are free to accept the implications of what Paul wrote in Colossians 2:16. We should not let anyone judge us regarding Sabbath days, just as we shouldn’t let them judge us regarding new moons. Everyone should be convinced in their own mind, and they should not judge other Christians regarding such matters.
 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.


The law, [Word of God] Is a delight for Christians, Ps 1: 2.
There is great reward, Ps 19: 11. 1 Jn 3: 21--22.
We keep the commandments because we love the Lord, Jn 14: 21.
God's commandments aren't grievous, 1 Jn 5: 3
Grievous means burdensome or binding because they are heavy.
 

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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.

what kind of law you talking about brother?

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

All kind of law is base on love.

even secular law must base on love.for example traffic law.

Love mean doesn't like people hurt from accident. that way they make traffic law.

The real Love is come and dwelling on every believer and His Name is Jesus.

He is the real Sabbath.

So we are bound to the real law.




 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
Romans 4:15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

Jesus has stand in our place for punishment in order to fulfill the Law; but now the laws were fulfilled and or you can say that the process has been completed. And now we can distinguish from what is good and what is evil. And now if we does someone wrong, and love it; God will see what your heart desires. Hoping for wrath on your enemies, in God's eyesight, He sees what you desires. But since we are all sinner (not living up to a Godly specifications) which we should all be like David, praying and fasting fervently on our face for mercy. But if you want o put a heavy burden (the laws that we all was unable to keep) on those that are weak as yourself is, then so be it. But I myself is going to clear my thoughts on those that sinned against me and focus on what I must do (because I'm endanger of Hell's fire as well) and let God be the Judge; and try my best not to put any Ideals in my head in how God should handle other. If I do have these thoughts, I'll be evil as well because I will be cursing.


 
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The New Testament believer is under grace; Hebrews 7 says the law was changed, and we now have 'a better hope'.
 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
The Christian through Christ has fulfilled the Law, keeps it perfectly, without spot Rom 8:4

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Waking after the Spirit means what the Spirit has revealed to us by the Gospel, that Christ in our name and stead has fulfilled the Righteousness of the Law for us, and so we walk by Faith in the Knowledge of it !
 
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One simple fact is all you need to know.

If the law is still binding. We are doomed. The curse of the law is death for everyone who does not obey EVERYTHING written in it.

The law can only condemn.


How good have you done this?

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”

Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),

Galatians 3:19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator.

Galatians 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
 
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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
from Galatians chapter 5,

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

and

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control.

i reach for the fruit of the Spirit... i try to keep the Spirit of the law, but not the letter... i believe this is what Jesus was talking about when he talked about clean foods and when he wrote in the sand...


2 Corinthians 3
For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

blessings upon you all!
 
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from Galatians chapter 5,

18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

and

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control.

i reach for the fruit of the Spirit... i try to keep the Spirit of the law, but not the letter... i believe this is what Jesus was talking about when he talked about clean foods and when he wrote in the sand...


2 Corinthians 3
For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

blessings upon you all!
Seems pretty clear to me! :)
 
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Christ's NT law is binding upon Christians, 1 Cor 9:21

If the OP is about OT law of Moses, it is not binding upon Christians;

---the OT law of Moses was only given to the Jews to keep and not Christians, Deut. 5
---Christ took the OT out of the way making it inactive, no longer in effect, Col 2:14; Heb 10:9; Heb 7:12; Mt 5:17,18
---if righteousness comes by the law, then Christ is dead in vain, Gal 2:21
---sinful for a Christian to try and keep Christ's NT law and the OT law at the same time, Rom 7:1-7, Galatian epistle
 
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The True Christian, through Faith in Christ, lives in total obedience to God'sLaw all the time, perfectly ! Because Christ in their stead and behalf Lived an obedient life perfectly in the Will of God, obeying His Law for them ! Ps 40:8

I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.

That's Christ speaking on behalf of all for whom He lived and died and rose again !
 

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Show me proof from the Bible why you believe the law is not binding on Christians.
Which law, the Mosaic law? or God's moral law written on the regenerate's heart?
 

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On judgment day, when God takes out the book, and asks why you didnt keep the Sabbath, what are you going to say?

Oh, I thought you did away with that.

That is not going to fly.
I couldn't keep the law by my own power. I had to trust that the Lord Jesus Christ was my entire righteousness and I didn't have any righteousness by my own deeds of the law.

I would have to call on my intercessor then, as I do now. You think telling the court "I trust in Christ and Christ alone" for my entrance into the kingdom will be a bad thing?
 

Grandpa

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2 Corinthians 3:3-18
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.


Galatians 3:2-3
[SUP]2 [/SUP]This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 3:10-12

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Galatians 3:23-25

[SUP]23 [/SUP]But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.