Why is the Zodiac so accurate?

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Tintin

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Unless the God of the Bible allows it?


Who can do magic? obviously the God of the Bible did in ancient days but who really performed the magic for pharaoh?

Exodus 7:8-9-11
God said to Moses and Aaron, “When Pharaoh says to you, ‘Perform a miracle,’ then say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,’ and it will become a snake.” - Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts.
Oh, good grief. It's so obvious.
 
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jaybird88

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God would say turn away from it - get out of her my people. It is playing with fire...
do you have a passage where our Lord says this?
yes i get that there are passages where divination is condemned. but it never says anything and everything dealing with astronomy is evil.
the wise men followed a sign, the Lord stopped the sun for Joshua. these things are in the bible. the church telling people to stay away is just trying to keep people under church control rather than letting people have a relationship with the Lord.
 
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thepsalmist

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do you have a passage where our Lord says this?
yes i get that there are passages where divination is condemned. but it never says anything and everything dealing with astronomy is evil.
the wise men followed a sign, the Lord stopped the sun for Joshua. these things are in the bible. the church telling people to stay away is just trying to keep people under church control rather than letting people have a relationship with the Lord.
I won't argue with you.

God will judge between us ...

If you have the Holy Spirit in you then all you have to do is listen to what He says.

I've been down that road ... it leads to no good.
 
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The point is that in astrology, the stars and planets have influence over events, which is not biblical. Not to be confused with astronomy which is the study of the universe without the mumbo jumbo. When God created the universe he made it like a precision watch that simply keeps time and doesn't have an affect other than to give us clue as to what time it is. Lol
 
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Rosesrock

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#45
All I know is more babies come on full moons due to the atmospheric pressure change and I'm swamped at work. Lol
 
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#46
In Gen it says the Lord made the stars for signs. i made a topic on this a while back and everyone thought i was crazy.

i am crazy but thats beside the point.
Signs, that seen are designed for the rebellious. Signs as that seen, and wonders ,the faith principle work together as prophecy, for the believer.

Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but "prophesying" serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.1Co 14:22

A clear distinction must be made if we are to hear God aright.

Looking to the stars is a form of divination. There are times when all of the characteristics of the zodiac can fit the personally of one person .A person would have to get twelve tattoos to cover our crazyness of a deceitful heart, as in who can know it?
 
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Signs, that seen are designed for the rebellious. Signs as that seen, and wonders ,the faith principle work together as prophecy, for the believer.

Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but "prophesying" serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.1Co 14:22

A clear distinction must be made if we are to hear God aright.

Looking to the stars is a form of divination. There are times when all of the characteristics of the zodiac can fit the personally of one person .A person would have to get twelve tattoos to cover our crazyness of a deceitful heart, as in who can know it?
Looking at and admiring Gods creation is not divination. Putting God beneath His creation is divination.
 
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Gr8grace

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In Gen it says the Lord made the stars for signs. i made a topic on this a while back and everyone thought i was crazy.

i am crazy but thats beside the point
The stars are the Gospel written in the sky. Satan has counterfeited it with astrology.

Psalm 19~~1The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. 2Day to day pours forth speech,
And night to night reveals knowledge.
3There is no speech, nor are there words;
Their voice is not heard.
4Their line has gone out through all the earth,
And their utterances to the end of the world.
In them He has placed a tent for the sun,
5Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber;
It rejoices as a strong man to run his course.


Here is a quick look from Robert M........
The Virgin Maiden (Virgo). The constellation, Virgo, was given to represent God’s promise in Genesis 3:15.
It was in Eden that God spoke to Satan: “And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed.
ISA 7:14: “Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name, Immanuel.”

The picture of Virgo is that of a woman with a shock of wheat in her left hand and a branch in her right hand.

The brightest star in the constellation is called Spica, a Latin word meaning “the branch.” There are three smaller constellations or decans to each major constellation, The three (divinity) for Virgo are:

Coma: The word Coma means “the desired,” and represents the desired one, the desire of all nations the Messiah.

Boötes: Boötes means, “the Coming One.” Another name for the Constellation was taken from a star in the left knee of the Shepherd. It was called Arcturus, which also means, He that will come.

Centaurus
The name Centaurus means two natures. The Seed of the woman was “virgin born,” he was not of the seed of man. His two natures pure humanity and pure deity. He is God in human flesh and, therefore, can rightly be called Immanuel, which means God with us. Virgo and her attending constellations represent the beginning of an epic story to rescue the human race.
 
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sassylady

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#49
I have noticed that too. However, I believe Jewish people are worth listening too. I heard an orthodox rabbi say a lot of things are accurate like that, but you don't follow them, you follow what God says. So therefore you don't use Zodiac signs.
 

Demi777

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I think that some demons stand and influence a person due to when theyre born and where. though still we shouldnt depend on it.stay away from Astrology and all that fancy stuff
 
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jaybird88

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I won't argue with you.

God will judge between us ...

If you have the Holy Spirit in you then all you have to do is listen to what He says.

I've been down that road ... it leads to no good.
i dont think the answers to everything are in the stars or throwing stones but i dont think its right to ignore bible passages that talk about these things. its no different than taking a marker and blacking out these passages. i think they are there for a reason.
 
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jaybird88

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Looking to the stars is a form of divination. There are times when all of the characteristics of the zodiac can fit the personally of one person .A person would have to get twelve tattoos to cover our crazyness of a deceitful heart, as in who can know it?
so when those wise men were guided by the stars to pay their respects to Jesus, this was an act of evil? makes no sense to me.
 
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psalm6819

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the zodiac is actually a bastardization, created in Babylon, of the mazzeroth.

The story of our redemption in the heavens that God used to teach Abraham

The Lion would represent Christ -Lion of the tribe of Judah, Virgo representing His virgin birth, ect
 
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thepsalmist

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i dont think the answers to everything are in the stars or throwing stones but i dont think its right to ignore bible passages that talk about these things. its no different than taking a marker and blacking out these passages. i think they are there for a reason.
Just for the record ... I took a black marker to no verses in the Bible.

There are no passages in the Bible that talk about Astrology ... as far as I know. Stars in themselves are not the 'science' of astrology.
 
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jaybird88

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Just for the record ... I took a black marker to no verses in the Bible.

There are no passages in the Bible that talk about Astrology ... as far as I know. Stars in themselves are not the 'science' of astrology.
i dont think your trying to teach anyone to black marker anything. the point im making is if our Lord was to ever send a sign most Christians would be clueless as we are taught all that stuff is the devil.
 
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Oh, good grief. It's so obvious.
It is not obvious to everyone though, there might be all kinds of people reading in the background who are curious and looking for satisfactory answers to their questions. The main reason I joined this site was to talk to individuals and to see what others say of the Bible or how they interpret it. 1 John 4:1 do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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do you have a passage where our Lord says this?
yes i get that there are passages where divination is condemned. but it never says anything and everything dealing with astronomy is evil.
the wise men followed a sign, the Lord stopped the sun for Joshua. these things are in the bible. the church telling people to stay away is just trying to keep people under church control rather than letting people have a relationship with the Lord.
The zodiac and such things are not astronomy. Astronomy is a scientific practice. The zodiac and similar methodologies is astrology. Astrology by definition is a method of divination via using the position of stars and planets. Divination is not a good thing regardless of the medium used.

Back in the day people used to disembowel an animal (humans too in some circles) and read the guts and entrails as a method of divination. Some people used runes, tarot cards, consulted with familiar spirits, etc. Divination is practiced in a multitude of ways. The medium used to do it doesn't make it any less an engagement in divination. During the last days there will be signs in the heavens and the moon and sun, that doesn't somehow give a greenlight for Christians to engage in divination however.
 
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Tintin

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It is not obvious to everyone though, there might be all kinds of people reading in the background who are curious and looking for satisfactory answers to their questions. The main reason I joined this site was to talk to individuals and to see what others say of the Bible or how they interpret it. 1 John 4:1 do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
I apologise, Kedge. I guess I see it as rather obvious. God empowered Moses and the Pharaoh opposed Moses (and God) so he and his magicians were under the power of Satan and his kind. Did God allow it? Yes. Did God approve of it? No. Hence, God showed His great power over Satan and his kind.