Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

[KennethC]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

Kenneth, please hear me out so that I don't unintentionally offend you.

First of all, I actually agree with your position that saints can fall away, so I'm not your adversary as far as that is concerned. Here's the thing, though, and you actually touched upon it in what I've quoted above:

Why do you suppose that people get all bent out of shape during Bible discussions?

Have you ever considered that it is because the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God has cut them in their heart?

My own wife and I, although we both profess to be Christians, differ on many, many things and a primary difference is that she basically believes that everybody who professes to be a Christian actually is one. I, on the other hand, expect that there should actually be some fruit to go along with the profession in that we'll know a tree by its fruit. I've said the following to my wife on many different occasions:

You think that ____ is a Christian? Just speak the Word of God to them, without any commentary of your own, and see how they respond.

Time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again I've watched in horror as professing Christians go berserk after simply having a portion of scripture spoken to them.

If people resort to name calling and the like in your conversations with them, then take that as a positive thing. In other words, it very likely means that the Word which you have shared has hit its mark. Of course, the response isn't what you desire, but you can at least pray at that point in time that God gives the increase. Again, only He can. Once strife enters into the picture, there is confusion and every evil work. Surely you must be aware of that by now, so seek not to enter into strife with anybody. It can be done.

Yes I know and understand all of this as well because the Lord Jesus Himself said that not everybody that calls Him Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, and said also that every branch that does not bear fruit will be cut off and burned.

Apostle Paul to Titus even says some who profess to know God but in works deny Him are disobedient and disqualified for any good works they have done.

My stance is because of new and weak members of the faith in Christ coming here to seek out the full truth by the Holy Spirit through us. They need to be lead in sound doctrine and not be given doctrines that suit the positions of men.

 

[KennethC]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

Do you see what I mean?

Were the three exclamation points necessary?

Have you ever tried contacting the same via pm's? I have. Again, the public outbursts, which is what they inevitably turn into, benefit nobody. They only introduce confusion and every evil work.

I think they are because it shows emphasis and the bible emphasizes these points: Love, mercy, forgiveness, obedience, and keeping with sound doctrine.

 

[atwhatcost]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

atwhatcost,

every Spiritual discovery is a jewel to be treasured, we rejoice in your joy of discovery.

we are zealous, heavy studiers of The Word, but we have learned that to share our Spiritual discoveries,
those beautiful nuggets of pure Gold, God has taught us that a word fitly spoken, how good it is' -
in short, patience and timing, these are what compliment and must accompany our sharing of His Word,
what is paramount is the planting - whether someone else waters, it doesn't matter, because we have
learned that our Father will bring to fruition what He will, whether now or in the future, it's all good.

I've got no time for patience!!!







(Why is God always hitting me over the head with patience? lol)

 

[atwhatcost]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

I saw a bumper sticker that read: Everyone's Entitled to My Opinion.

I knew that one would sell. Alas, I didn't have the patience to make it. lol

 

[purgedconscience]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

Yes I know and understand all of this as well because the Lord Jesus Himself said that not everybody that calls Him Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, and said also that every branch that does not bear fruit will be cut off and burned.

Apostle Paul to Titus even says some who profess to know God but in works deny Him are disobedient and disqualified for any good works they have done.

My stance is because of new and weak members of the faith in Christ coming here to seek out the full truth by the Holy Spirit through us. They need to be lead in sound doctrine and not be given doctrines that suit the positions of men.

I'm going to drop out of this discussion after this post. Again, my simple advice to you is this:

If the situation truly arises where you believe that somebody new to the faith, somebody weak in the faith or somebody who is merely inquiring about the faith is given misinformation, then why not contact that individual privately to see if they are interested in hearing your opposing point of view?

Look, I'm not advising you to do something that I haven't done myself on several different occasions. There are members who are still on this forum who know that I've contacted them privately and there are some who have either left willingly or been banned. If your public comments are going to set off a firestorm, then why not just make them in private to those who are actually willing to hear them?

I have no more advice for you.

I'm done on this thread.

 

[KennethC]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

Boy, you sure have a long list of excuses for why you alone are right. I might actually believe you truly believe all those excuses, except your 38, not 8. Get over yourself. If not that, start a new thread all about youism. I'm sure it would get attention, but, no this was never a "she wants me to dump my prove-a-point onto her thread" post, and you should at least understand that. If not, you never will prove-a-point, because you're reasoning levels are thwarted.

Sorry but I do not excuse nothing nor do I claim I am always right.
You will never hear me say that, because I always give all credit to God for His knowledge being spoken through me by His Holy Spirit. I never claim it done by myself, so claiming I am doing this for self is completely off the mark and not a correct assumption.

If I was worried only about myself I would not give those scriptures from the bible so other can know God's full truth, and just leave those to their false teachings to faulter on their own. That is not what God and His word has called us to do !!!

 

[purgedconscience]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

That is not what God and His word has called us to do !!!

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What?

Okay, I'm going...

 

[Angela53510]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

You've been to Seminary. Weren't you given a set of verses to defend against the other half of the class who had another set of verses..... Then the Prof had you swap verses with the opposing group.... and you then had to oppose the very verses you just defended? That was one of the most eye-opening classes I ever took. It taught me that, because our whole understanding of Scripture really DOES depend upon interpretation (ours, or that of someone else who we simply accept as being true) that it is never smart to get into a "Verse War" where everyone is simply quoting verses THEY have decided are the be all and end all.

I firmly believe Heaven will be full of people who never saw the Bible exactly the way the other guy standing beside them in Heaven saw it.... some, not even close to the other's view.

No, we were not! We were given all the opposing views to read about, then told to figure out what best represented what God had told us! And write a paper or two. Our seminary did not have an adversarial approach. We tried to learn about cooperation, love, and understanding, not how to win a debate, which is so unChristlike!

I did debate in high school, something I have to work on unlearning!

 

[Willie-T]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

No, we were not! We were given all the opposing views to read about, then told to figure out what best represented what God had told us! And write a paper or two. Our seminary did not have an adversarial approach. We tried to learn about cooperation, love, and understanding, not how to win a debate, which is so unChristlike!

I did debate in high school, something I have to work on unlearning!

That's too bad. It is really an awakening to learn to be aware of how so many scriptures are often used to "prove" just the opposite of what you might have learned.

 

[Angela53510]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

That's too bad. It is really an awakening to learn to be aware of how so many scriptures are often used to "prove" just the opposite of what you might have learned.

On the contrary, there is such a thing as good doctrine. That kind of adversial approach just leads students to doubt their faith, or chose the lowest common denominator as the default position. Instead, a focus on truth should be the emphasis of any seminary.

Besides, it sounds like a "verse" can be torn out of context by your description of the class. Good hermeneutics, or Biblical interpretation requires that we use the context of the passage, the book, the Testament and the Bible in light of what God says and Jesus Christ. Heremeneutics was a wonderful class, because instead of ripping Scriptures out of context, we looked deeply into long passages, and the history, genre, grammar, etc etc showed us how to rightly divide the Word of God.

I think it is very sad you had a class like that Willie, which seems to have shaken your faith in the Word of God.

 

[Bronson]

Re: Why is there so little Bible discussion on a forum called "Bible Discussion?"

Couple of reasons, one really big one I say: I think some people think that their opinion on a matter or scripture is so important it warrants a new thread so they go ahead and create a new thread lest their precious thoughts get drowned out by other posts in already existing threads and gets less attention?
Another is someone is new?
Another could be not really thinking straight?
Another could be they just don't really care about order?

Maybe there should be a central complaints forum for threads like this? Lol

Or, maybe it is because many do not know much about the Bible to discuss its content!!!!!!!