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Lets face facts without women men would be screwed and vice versa. So why shouldn't they being able to have positions of leadership... with the exception of Magaret Thatcher may she rest in peices.
 
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Great Women of the Bible






Join me as we study several Great Women of the Bible and learn how God used these them and still uses us to advance His kingdom on earth. We will study the role of women in the Bible, virtuous women in the Bible, strong women in the Bible, women leaders, and significant Women in the Bible in these devotions for ladies. These Bible studies for women are written by a woman, for women, and about Women of the Bible.


And on the Sabbath day we went out of the city to the riverside, where prayer was customarily made; and we sat down and spoke to the women who met there.
Acts 16:13




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Abigail from the Bible Abigail’s husband, Nabal, was a very wicked man, who thought only of himself. By Abigail’s quick wisdom and generosity she not only saved her entire family from death, but was miraculously delivered from an evil husband, and given a godly husband in his place. Abigail was one of the truly virtuous women in the Bible. Anna in the Bible When Jesus was eight days old, Mary and Joseph took Him to the Temple in Jerusalem to be circumcised. Not only was this the time when Jesus was named, in obedience to the Angel who came to Mary, but two other important people were there as well: Simeon, who had received a vision that he would see the Lord's Christ before he died, and Anna in the Bible, who served God day and night.

Deborah in the Bible
Times were tough in Israel. The Israelites went through great periods of rejecting God, being recovered by godly judges, and then rejecting God again. Among the many judges who ruled over the Israelites at that time, we learn about the judge, Deborah, who with the help of Jael, both strong women in the Bible who were able to bring a great victory for God’s people.
Dorcas in the Bible She was a Christian; not because she did good works and charitable deeds, but rather, she did good works and charitable deeds because she was a Christian.
Esther Bible Study How could you only write one devotion about Esther? Join me on my Esther Bible Study page as I go through the entire book of Esther!

Eve, the Mother of All Living Through Adam and Eve sin entered into the world, but also through Adam and Eve came the birth of God's church, a people set apart for Himself.
Hagar - The Discarded Wife God had long promised to Abraham that He would bless him with seed as the stars in heaven and the sand upon the seashore. As he and Sarah grew older, it became obvious that this seed was not going to come through Sarah. At least, that was Sarah's assessment of the situation. After thinking through the dilema, she developed an alternate solution.

Hannah of the Bible was truly a virtuous woman in the Bible. In this devotion for ladies, we see she is a woman of powerful prayer and faithfulness in keeping her promises to God. She teaches us the proper way to approach and view our troubles and our adversaries.
Lot's Wife made a fatal mistake and it cost her her life! Caught between a struggle with the world and the Lord, she succumbed to the world. Are we like Lot's Wife?
Lydia from the Bible There are only a few verses in the Bible regarding Lydia, but what insight they give us! Even just these few verses give us insight as to why Lydia was one of the great women of the Bible.





Women did all kinds of great things in the bible. Study about it.
 
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"as women did not have opportunity in those times to do such things, at all." THis is not true. Lydia in Thyatira had her own business of making and selling purple fabric. There were others as well as some that owned land. Anyone that owned land was a business person of some sort.

Women shouldnt be in leadership positions. There to emotional which in turn effects their decisions. Speak for yourself. That is not true of all women. But one thing that is true is that women have the ability to consider alternatives more than men; they have much more intuition then men, and are often more able to look beyond the $ to see other benefits.
 
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1 Timothy verse 12 and 13.

I realize there are people that do not believe in the Bible, or they pick and choose only the scripture that they are comfortable with.

The reason Jesus did not pick any Women Apostles is because Women are not to serve as leaders in the Church.

Women are not suppose to be in authority over her husband either.

In the same way Eve desired the fruit of the tree God instructed her specifically not to eat, sadly some women desire leadership and authority over men both within their own households and within the Church.

Bottom line for me, when a Church has Female leadership, I do not attend that Church. In the end people will do what is right in their own mind.
 
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You need to read your bible when the stories talked about the Apostle it made mention that the women were right there. For one thing they were the ones with the money taking care of Jesus. For another thing when Jesus needed to depend on anyone he went right to the women. The women were at the cross while the men were in hiding. After the cross Jesus went to a woman and told her to preach. The men weren't there once again. What ever lies you swallowed of women can't preach is wrong. The woman at the well went on preached. How bout God is no respector of person ever read that? He loves women just the same as men. Ester saved Gods chosen race because she risked her life and gave the message from God so Haman wouldn't get to kill Gods people. She preached. It's a shame you people with lack of knowledge are preaching. All of you telling these lies form hell that women are nothings are false teachers. You are preaching every time you tell the lies.
 
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You need to read your bible when the stories talked about the Apostle it made mention that the women were right there. For one thing they were the ones with the money taking care of Jesus. For another thing when Jesus needed to depend on anyone he went right to the women. The women were at the cross while the men were in hiding. After the cross Jesus went to a woman and told her to preach. The men weren't there once again. What ever lies you swallowed of women can't preach is wrong. The woman at the well went on preached. How bout God is no respector of person ever read that? He loves women just the same as men. Ester saved Gods chosen race because she risked her life and gave the message from God so Haman wouldn't get to kill Gods people. She preached. It's a shame you people with lack of knowledge are preaching. All of you telling these lies form hell that women are nothings are false teachers. You are preaching every time you tell the lies.
I don't really want to get into this whole debate, at least not in the protestant side of it. But I will say this much, no one has said that God loves women less than men. Also your examples fall under the heading of "Women doing great things", but they do not demonstrate women were in a Pastoral position in the Bible, and keep in mind that a Pastor/Priest is much more than a simple preacher.
 
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I don't really want to get into this whole debate, at least not in the protestant side of it. But I will say this much, no one has said that God loves women less than men. Also your examples fall under the heading of "Women doing great things", but they do not demonstrate women were in a Pastoral position in the Bible, and keep in mind that a Pastor/Priest is much more than a simple preacher.

You keep in mind what the bible says. Jesus came and changed everything. He spoke to the women and treated them equally. I'll say it again equally. You did want to get into the whole debate and you did. You need to learn the bible. I just pointed out that women preached. They did in the bible and they still do. And they will keep preaching until they are taken home. Time for men to stop being jealous of them. Time for women to want to know why they are to be considered less than a man.
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1. There is not one Scripture in the Bible that forbids women from preaching, but on the contrary, there are many verses that encourage both men and women to preach the Gospel.

2. The Bible teaches that God is not a respecter of persons, and He will use any and all who will yield to Him, regardless of race, age, or sex.

Galatians 3:28 - "...neither male nor female...for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

Acts 10:34 - "...God is no respecter of persons...."

Moses said in Numbers 11:29, "Would God that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put His spirit upon them!"
The crying need of the hour is for more laborers. It is a trick of the enemy to try to down rate thousands of our faithful laborers just because they were born females.

3. The Great Commission, Mark 16:15, "Preach the Gospel," is to ALL believers, and to all the church of Jesus Christ. The command to "preach the Gospel" is to both male and female.

4. It is an undeniable fact that God has called and anointed thousands of women to preach the Gospel. The Full Gospel organizations have hundreds of licensed and ordained women who are preaching, teaching, evangelizing, pastoring, and doing mission work with the signs following their ministry. God is using them for the salvation of the lost, deliverance from sin, gifts of the Spirit, and infilling of the Holy Spirit.

The Bible says, "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm." And may we be reminded of the Scripture in Acts 5:39, "If it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."

When someone says, "God does not call women to preach," it is like saying that God does not baptize with the Holy Spirit today. We know better, because we have witnessed and experienced it with our own ears and eyes.

I would be afraid to condemn women preachers, lest I would be found to be fighting against God, and to be committing the vile sin of attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

5. Women preachers are a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy and another sign of Christ's soon return to earth (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:17-18).

6. The Bible declares that women will prophesy: 1 Cor. 11:5, "For every woman that prayeth or prophesieth...."

Both the Hebrew (Nebrah), and Greek (Proph) used for prophetess means (female preacher). (See Young's Concordance, Pg. 780.)

The word "Prophet" means a public expounder.

The word "Prophesy" means to speak forth, or flow forth. The Bible says in 1 Cor. 14:3, "But he that prophesieth speaketh unto MEN to edification, and exhortation and comfort."

The dictionary says, prophesy is "to speak under divine inspiration...to preach."

Therefore we learn from the original translation, from the Bible interpretation, and from the dictionary, that to prophesy means more than to tell the future, but it is to speak publicly about the past, present, or future. It is to preach under the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

The Old and New Testament prophets and prophetesses were preachers of God's Word.

Even if the words prophet and preacher could be separated, how could anyone prophesy to bring exhortation, comfort and edification to the church, if she were forbidden to speak in church and was to keep silent?

Would God inspire and anoint someone to do something that was wrong and sinful???

* (There is a difference between a prophet, and the gift of prophecy.)

7. God called and used women preachers in the Old Testament.

a. DEBORAH - Judges 4:4-5. Deborah was a Judge for both civil and criminal cases. The children of Israel came to her for judgment. She was the chief ruler of Israel for 40 years, giving orders to the Generals and all the army. She did the work of an evangelist, prophetess, Judge, and a preacher. God gave her authority over the mighty (Judges 5:13).

b. MIRIAM - Exodus 15:20; Numbers 12:1; Micah 6:4. She was a Prophetess and a Song Leader in Israel.

c. HULDAH - 2 Kings 22:14. Five men went to Sister Huldah and communed with her. She spoke to a congregation of men concerning the book of the Law. A female preached to a man's congregation, and her message was taken to the nation and produced a revival.

d. MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ'S MOTHER - Isaiah 8:3. She was a prophetess.

8. God called and used women preachers in the New Testament.

a. The first message of the Resurrection of Christ was spoken by women to a group of men.

b. Anna - Luke 2:36-38. She must have prophesied in church, because she did not depart from the temple.

c. Phillip had 4 daughters who prophesied. Acts 21:9.

d. Priscilla assisted Paul in his revival meeting and even taught Apollos in the way of the Lord more perfectly.

e. Phebe - Romans 16:1-2. Paul commended Phoebe to the Church at Rome and requested that they assist her in her business. She was one of Paul's assistants in the work of the Lord and delivered the Book of Romans to the people from the hand of Paul.

9. There is no sound reason why a woman or man should not preach the Gospel. There is a desperate need in the church for more workers. Laborers are few, and God will use any and all who will go for Him. Some say God will not use a woman to preach, because "The woman was deceived," but remember Romans 5:12: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world." It seems to indicate that Adam was just as guilty as Eve in the fall of man. If anyone should be kept from preaching because of sin, it would be Adam. But God does not forbid anyone from preaching, because of Adam's or Eve's sin.

10. 1 Cor. 14: 34-35 does not say anything about women preachers. If Paul intended this verse as a general rule to bar all women from speaking in church, then they cannot teach Sunday School, testify, pray, prophesy, sing, or even get saved, and this would contradict the rest of the Bible (Acts 2:4; Acts 2:16-18).

Paul was rather dealing with a particular problem in the church. Women were not educated as were the men in that day; therefore the women would talk back and forth to their husbands in church and ask questions concerning the sermon. Paul said, "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home; for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." If they want to talk things over let them wait until they get home. This rule is still good for the church today, where people are talking and causing confusion in the church service. They should not speak in church. (Not in the back of the church either before or after services.)

If a woman cannot speak in church, then she cannot speak in prayer meeting, young people's service, etc., for who can deny that Sunday School and Prayer meeting, and Youth work are parts of church? Christ's Church is not a building, but rather it is found where two or three are gathered together in His name, whether at a street meeting, in a tent, a home, church, classroom or anywhere else.

11. 1 Timothy 2:12 is not a blanket rule for all women of all churches. If it were, then the women could not speak at all, for the same verse that tells them not to teach also tells them to be silent.

If all women had to keep silent in church, then that would be promoting disobedience to God, for they could not prophesy, pray, testify, sing, exhort, do personal work, or even get saved.

Whenever an interpretation to a verse contradicts the rest of the teaching of the Bible, we know this interpretation is incorrect, for the Holy Spirit will never contradict His own Word.

This is the chief verse that is used to oppose women preaching and yet it says nothing about preaching, nor does it say anything about a public worship or church service. But, on the contrary, this verse is giving instructions to wives as to how they were to conduct themselves in regard to their husband. Paul says in 1 Cor. 14:35, "And if they will LEARN anything, let them ask their husbands at home." Now he states in 1 Tim. 2:12 that the woman should learn in silence, and should not usurp authority over the man. Paul is dealing with more of a home problem than a church problem.

This verse still applies to us today. It is wrong for a woman to usurp authority over her husband (in church, home, or any place else) as was the case in Paul's day. She should not try to teach him or speak words that would cause discord and confusion, but should rather be silent and in subjection to her husband.

It is also to be understood that if anyone, whether man or woman, is usurping authority over the God-given leadership of the church, she or he is to be silent, and not to teach, or act in such a way that would create discord in the assembly.

12. Some have used Titus 1:6-7, "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children...", but there is a difference between a preacher and a bishop. For I was an Evangelist and now am a Pastor, but I am not a Bishop (Overseer), and most Pastors are not. If God called a single man with no children to be a Bishop, as Paul was, surely this verse is not opposed to it, nor would this scripture oppose a woman Bishop if she was called of God for the work, as was Deborah.

What this verse does teach is that a person who is to be a Bishop must not have two living companions, either husbands or wives.

The Bible often speaks of "man" when it refers to both men and and women inclusively. The word "mankind" also includes both men and women. For an example of this word usage see 1 Cor. 13:1 - "Though I speak with the tongues of MEN and angels...." This word "MEN" includes women as well, for we do not have one language for men and another for women.

13. To condemn women preachers and women church workers is a serious offense, because God has stamped His approval on them by His Spirit over and over again, and who is man to fight against the Spirit of God?

To condemn women preachers and women church workers is in a sense to claim they are doing wrong and committing sin...and all those who support them and listen to them are having a part in that sin.

For anyone to do this, he must condemn approximately 99% of all the Spirit-filled believers and the vast majority of all of Christianity.

"Of a truth, I perceive that God is no respecter of persons..." (Acts 10:34).

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You keep in mind what the bible says. Jesus came and changed everything. He spoke to the women and treated them equally. I'll say it again equally. You did want to get into the whole debate and you did. You need to learn the bible. I just pointed out that women preached. They did in the bible and they still do. And they will keep preaching until they are taken home. Time for men to stop being jealous of them. Time for women to want to know why they are to be considered less than a man.
Apparently you missed the bit where I said a Pastor/Priest is more than a simple preacher. Additionally if Jesus intended to make women religious leaders it would have been quite uncontroversial for him to do so among non-Jews. Priestesses were common if not preferred among many Pagan religions, and thus they would have readily accepted women as their leaders, but they didn't, instead men were the bishops, priests, and deacons. Which can lead only to the conclusion that it was that way since the beginning. At least I can take solace in the fact that the Catholic church will never ordain women to the Priesthood.
 
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LovesChild, I am going to ask you some very simple questions and would like a plain and simple response.

1) Are you married, and if you are, are you in a position of leadership over your husband?

2) Can you provide examples of prominent Female leaders within the Hebrew synagogue in the Old Testament.

3) Can you provide examples of prominent Female leadership within the New Testament Churches in the Bible.

Please use the Bible and the Bible alone to answer these questions.

Please speak as plainly as possible. To answer these three basic questions should not require a great deal of words.
 

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My daughter who is 41, has worked as personal assistant to directors and managing directors. She said to me once that if the director she worked for left and a woman replaced him she would resign. I asked her why and she said they are the worst people to work for and my daughter is not given to exaggeration.