Word of Faith Teachers: Origins & Errors of Their Teaching (Full Film)

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zone

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[video=youtube;C3AC9ape88c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3AC9ape88c[/video]
 
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Just speak it brother just peak it. I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.I will have a rolls royce.

Guess my Dodge will do.
 
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About what teachers u speaking here?What are their names?
 
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About what teachers u speaking here?What are their names?
Kenneth Copeland, Andrew womack, I would say Creflo dollar, but he has went back to preaching the cross after his escapade. Most of the ones you see on TBN, not all, but most. I like Perry stone, but he gets off on tangents at times. Is there a perfect preacher oh wait yes there is one. Jesus.
 

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sigh.
 

zone

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BradC

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By knowing all these things about what others teach and having pointing them out and seeing others relate to them so they can have their say with you, what good does it do for you or others? Does it help you bear fruit? Does it really help you bear witness of the truth with an attitude of mercy and grace? Does it make you want to edify and build up the body of Christ? Does it make you a better soul winner and get you on your knees with Christ's burden for the lost? Does it get you take up your cross and follow Christ? Does it make you desire to let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth but rather that which is good to the use of edifying that it may minister grace to the hearer? Does it draw others to Christ or make them appreciate God's mercy and grace, OR does it puff up in the knowledge one has and ascribes to, at the isolation and exclusion of others you deem to be false? These things are in your Bible as well and they are part of the doctrine of Christ but do you teach them or do you use this information to condemn what others believe to exalt yourself to have preeminence, to be first?

This is for psychomom, unclefester, praus and all the others that ascribe to what you love to pander and peddle.

3 John 1:9-11 9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

You do these very things with your own words (as your deeds and occupation), with intent and with malice (prating against) and accusing the brethren of pimping out heresy (your own words)and not being a true member of Christ's body (refusing them as brethren) and charging them to repent because you want preeminence with your doctrine and to be justified by others in doing so. Your marked and will continue to be marked and resisted because of what is in your heart and in your tongue. It's interesting how that our own tongue can condemn and fall upon us like a sword.
 
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Kenneth Copeland, Andrew womack, I would say Creflo dollar, but he has went back to preaching the cross after his escapade. Most of the ones you see on TBN, not all, but most. I like Perry stone, but he gets off on tangents at times. Is there a perfect preacher oh wait yes there is one. Jesus.

U should have to change your teachers.U won't get anything from them.
 
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This is for psychomom, unclefester, praus and all the others that ascribe to what you love to pander and peddle.

You do these very things with your own words (as your deeds and occupation), with intent and with malice (prating against) and accusing the brethren of pimping out heresy (your own words)and not being a true member of Christ's body (refusing them as brethren) and charging them to repent because you want preeminence with your doctrine and to be ...
Johannes 14:6 Jesus spricht zu ihm: Ich bin der Weg und die Wahrheit und das Leben; niemand kommt zum Vater denn durch mich. (Luther Bibel 1545)

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By knowing all these things about what others teach and having pointing them out and seeing others relate to them so they can have their say with you, what good does it do for you or others? Does it help you bear fruit? Does it really help you bear witness of the truth with an attitude of mercy and grace? Does it make you want to edify and build up the body of Christ? Does it make you a better soul winner and get you on your knees with Christ's burden for the lost? Does it get you take up your cross and follow Christ? Does it make you desire to let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth but rather that which is good to the use of edifying that it may minister grace to the hearer? Does it draw others to Christ or make them appreciate God's mercy and grace, OR does it puff up in the knowledge one has and ascribes to, at the isolation and exclusion of others you deem to be false? These things are in your Bible as well and they are part of the doctrine of Christ but do you teach them or do you use this information to condemn what others believe to exalt yourself to have preeminence, to be first?

This is for psychomom, unclefester, praus and all the others that ascribe to what you love to pander and peddle.

3 John 1:9-11 9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.10 Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

You do these very things with your own words (as your deeds and occupation), with intent and with malice (prating against) and accusing the brethren of pimping out heresy (your own words)and not being a true member of Christ's body (refusing them as brethren) and charging them to repent because you want preeminence with your doctrine and to be justified by others in doing so. Your marked and will continue to be marked and resisted because of what is in your heart and in your tongue. It's interesting how that our own tongue can condemn and fall upon us like a sword.
I agree, when the majority of the posts & threads shows the same things one must conclude this to be true. While we are taught to expose darkness, that's not supposed to be at the forefront of what we do. We are to edify one another for the glory of God, not to build up ourselves.
 

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I think the point of this video is to compare what some prominent members of the tele-evangelistic media are saying, to what the Bible says. Some people are easily deceived and it may mean they walk away from the one and only God, Jesus Christ! After all, if you are really a god, do you need Jesus Christ? I mean, you have pretty much already made it on your own, just by being born!

Heresy must always be corrected. To say that we should not learn about these vile errors, which have their roots back in the gnostic movements of the 2nd century, is to allow these lies to go unchecked. More and more people are being deceived as a new wave of Word Faith teachers perpetuate their indoctrination, which is based on people's needs for more - more money and wealth, more experiences and more miracles that are not verified. But less and less of Jesus Christ!

The historical and Biblical accuracy of this film is awesome. It strikes me as odd that some people are so arrogant they cannot take the time to watch a video, albeit long, about a scary trend in modern Christian thought, which has moved far beyond a few independent networks and into mainstream Christianity.

I do not think Zone was directing this at people who already know the truth of the Bible. But sadly, there are several Word Faith people who post here regularly, and they are the very ones who need to see why they have been deceived.

As Praus so aptly put it, "Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me." John 14:6.

This movement denies this Scripture and many other key verses that point to Jesus Christ, We are not little gods and we do not need to look in the mirror and say, "I am a god" every day! That is a video clip of Copeland or Hagan I believe!

How much better to affirm the truth of God's Word in scripture, instead of these extra-Biblical lies that are pulling people away from the living God, and sometimes against their own beliefs because these false teachers are "famous" TV preachers.
 
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I think the point of this video is to compare what some prominent members of the tele-evangelistic media are saying, to what the Bible says. Some people are easily deceived and it may mean they walk away from the one and only God, Jesus Christ! After all, if you are really a god, do you need Jesus Christ? I mean, you have pretty much already made it on your own, just by being born!

Heresy must always be corrected. To say that we should not learn about these vile errors, which have their roots back in the gnostic movements of the 2nd century, is to allow these lies to go unchecked. More and more people are being deceived as a new wave of Word Faith teachers perpetuate their indoctrination, which is based on people's needs for more - more money and wealth, more experiences and more miracles that are not verified. But less and less of Jesus Christ!

The historical and Biblical accuracy of this film is awesome. It strikes me as odd that some people are so arrogant they cannot take the time to watch a video, albeit long, about a scary trend in modern Christian thought, which has moved far beyond a few independent networks and into mainstream Christianity.

I do not think Zone was directing this at people who already know the truth of the Bible. But sadly, there are several Word Faith people who post here regularly, and they are the very ones who need to see why they have been deceived.

As Praus so aptly put it, "Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me." John 14:6.

This movement denies this Scripture and many other key verses that point to Jesus Christ, We are not little gods and we do not need to look in the mirror and say, "I am a god" every day! That is a video clip of Copeland or Hagan I believe!

How much better to affirm the truth of God's Word in scripture, instead of these extra-Biblical lies that are pulling people away from the living God, and sometimes against their own beliefs because these false teachers are "famous" TV preachers.
Most of the time these things just go away without bringing attention to them or rebuking anyone. We don't have to keep making comments about this and that and keep calling it heresy and false doctrine and belittling people. people need to be taught and the local assembly is where that is to take place. When believers are confronted by the grace and love of God they usually respond and have an ear for the truth. It is the arrogant and mule headed that need to be rebuked from time to time and if the pastor is preaching and teaching doctrine in the local assembly he will hit on those areas so that the body of believers can grow up together as one body in Christ.
 
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Anonimous

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All in all I'd rather watch this Benny. At least he is intended to be funny.
 
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I do not think Zone was directing this at people who already know the truth of the Bible. But sadly, there are several Word Faith people who post here regularly, and they are the very ones who need to see why they have been deceived.
I agree that WOF people need to hear the truth, no prob with that. However, I have problems with those that would use an approach that would make them angry & cement their beliefs even more. After a 1 on 1 with her, most would stay that way out of pure spite.
 

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You do these very things with your own words (as your deeds and occupation), with intent and with malice (prating against) and accusing the brethren of pimping out heresy (your own words)and not being a true member of Christ's body (refusing them as brethren) and charging them to repent because you want preeminence with your doctrine and to be justified by others in doing so..........
nah.
because false doctrine is to be rebuked. soundly.

you don;t listen though.
you just make fair speeches.
 

zone

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I agree that WOF people need to hear the truth, no prob with that. However, I have problems with those that would use an approach that would make them angry & cement their beliefs even more. After a 1 on 1 with her, most would stay that way out of pure spite.
what does that say about THEM?

can't handle the heat, steve, get out of the pentecostal kitchen.
 

zone

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Fire! Fire! Fire!

we want Fire!

mkay.....right
 
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what does that say about THEM?

can't handle the heat, steve, get out of the pentecostal kitchen.
Yeah, never mind you, 'cause you're exempt from all responsibility & judgement, right? You're treated as exempt, why not live that way?