Re: "Yahshua"
oes Jesus really care about the correct spelling of His real name?
Hey guys, not here to argue (I gotta recharge my batteries after the back and forth we've all gone through in other threads lol) just giving my opinion...
I agree that I don't think Christ is a spelling nazi...at least...not any more than any of us are with someone spelling our *own* name. But if we all agree that the original scriptures of the 1st covenant prophesied Christ at every opportune moment then surely his name appears in the Hebrew text. Unfortunately, because we have translations and don't read Hebrew, we don't readily see the name.
But I don't think it's fair to suggest that using "Yahshua" is insulting to God, when we know that the English translation of the Latin translation of the Greek form is just as varying. If "Jesus" isn't insulting why would "Yahshua" be because "Jesus" is just as inaccurate, isn't it? The reason why I use "Yahshua" now (instead of "Jesus" as in my early days of Christianity) is a personal reason and it's my way of respecting the culture Christ was born in.
Did you know "Jesus" is relatively new too? When bibles were in Latin, believers - real believers equally as zealous as we are - called him "Iee-sue" [I'm writing a pronunciation but I'm not a linguist so this spelling is most likely not accurate]. There was no "gee" sound at the beginning and no "SSS" sound on the end. So in relation to the span of time of Christ being revealed to the world, "Jesus" is just as young as "Yahshua". Even when the spelling became "J.e.s.u.s.", Christ's name was STILL pronounced "Iee-sous", because the letter "j" was just a fancy (or lazy) way of writing the letter "i" until it took on it's own sound. Originally "j" was a "Yee" sound until about approx 600 years ago. That's all...just roughly 600 years ago.
This means there were definitely no "J" names given to *anyone* in the time of Christ: John, James, Jude, Judas, Jesus...and there absolutely weren't any "J" names given in the time of Moses and the prophets: Joshua, Jehoshaphat, Jacob...
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There's discussion between whether the original pronunciation is "Yahshua" or "Yeshua" (because of the use of vowel points in modern Hebrew)...but there were no vowel points in ancient Hebrew so *I* lean towards "Yahshua", but regardless, the name they're pronouncing has it's root in the word that means "Yah is Salvation" (pronounced like "yahoshua"). Over time the name was shortened to the pronunciation "y'shua" by the time of Christ.
The first time the name is directly used for a person was when Moses changed the name of his servant (to the one we translate as Joshua); as many of you know his original name was Hoshea ("saves"). And because every name has a meaning (or prophecy) in Hebrew, the Messiah's name is prophesied all throughout the scriptures, for instance:
Genesis 49:18
Psalm 9:14
Isaiah 12:2-3
Notice the fulfillment of the this specific scripture...so ישׁוּע is a person.
John 4:10
John 7:37-38
Isaiah 62:11
This again shows that "Yah's salvation" is a person not an event, who's reward is with him...and the fulfillment...
Matthew 16:27
...and there are many more references to his name in scripture just like these. By the way, the characters before and after the bold name are different from one passage to the next because of grammar and tense with different possessive phrases. I'm no linguist but I did do an introductory study of Hebrew.
oes Jesus really care about the correct spelling of His real name?Hey guys, not here to argue (I gotta recharge my batteries after the back and forth we've all gone through in other threads lol) just giving my opinion...
I agree that I don't think Christ is a spelling nazi...at least...not any more than any of us are with someone spelling our *own* name. But if we all agree that the original scriptures of the 1st covenant prophesied Christ at every opportune moment then surely his name appears in the Hebrew text. Unfortunately, because we have translations and don't read Hebrew, we don't readily see the name.
But I don't think it's fair to suggest that using "Yahshua" is insulting to God, when we know that the English translation of the Latin translation of the Greek form is just as varying. If "Jesus" isn't insulting why would "Yahshua" be because "Jesus" is just as inaccurate, isn't it? The reason why I use "Yahshua" now (instead of "Jesus" as in my early days of Christianity) is a personal reason and it's my way of respecting the culture Christ was born in.
Did you know "Jesus" is relatively new too? When bibles were in Latin, believers - real believers equally as zealous as we are - called him "Iee-sue" [I'm writing a pronunciation but I'm not a linguist so this spelling is most likely not accurate]. There was no "gee" sound at the beginning and no "SSS" sound on the end. So in relation to the span of time of Christ being revealed to the world, "Jesus" is just as young as "Yahshua". Even when the spelling became "J.e.s.u.s.", Christ's name was STILL pronounced "Iee-sous", because the letter "j" was just a fancy (or lazy) way of writing the letter "i" until it took on it's own sound. Originally "j" was a "Yee" sound until about approx 600 years ago. That's all...just roughly 600 years ago.
This means there were definitely no "J" names given to *anyone* in the time of Christ: John, James, Jude, Judas, Jesus...and there absolutely weren't any "J" names given in the time of Moses and the prophets: Joshua, Jehoshaphat, Jacob...
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There's discussion between whether the original pronunciation is "Yahshua" or "Yeshua" (because of the use of vowel points in modern Hebrew)...but there were no vowel points in ancient Hebrew so *I* lean towards "Yahshua", but regardless, the name they're pronouncing has it's root in the word that means "Yah is Salvation" (pronounced like "yahoshua"). Over time the name was shortened to the pronunciation "y'shua" by the time of Christ.
The first time the name is directly used for a person was when Moses changed the name of his servant (to the one we translate as Joshua); as many of you know his original name was Hoshea ("saves"). And because every name has a meaning (or prophecy) in Hebrew, the Messiah's name is prophesied all throughout the scriptures, for instance:
Genesis 49:18
Psalm 9:14
Isaiah 12:2-3
Notice the fulfillment of the this specific scripture...so ישׁוּע is a person.
John 4:10
John 7:37-38
Isaiah 62:11
This again shows that "Yah's salvation" is a person not an event, who's reward is with him...and the fulfillment...
Matthew 16:27
...and there are many more references to his name in scripture just like these. By the way, the characters before and after the bold name are different from one passage to the next because of grammar and tense with different possessive phrases. I'm no linguist but I did do an introductory study of Hebrew.
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