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hate to say this bro. But that is just heresy! people have been banned for less!! 
The title of the OP suggests that a person COULD go through their entire lives just reading the King James Bible and be ok. Is there NOT some truth in that? Not every person in the world reads Greek........then again, not every person in the world reads English as displayed in the King James either.........
Is it good to research other versions? For me it is.........BUT the idea posed in the title remains to have a modicum of truth to it in my opinion.............I don't know how anyone could call it heresy.....
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Hope that was just tongue in cheek..........
The title of the OP suggests that a person COULD go through their entire lives just reading the King James Bible and be ok. Is there NOT some truth in that? Not every person in the world reads Greek........then again, not every person in the world reads English as displayed in the King James either.........
Is it good to research other versions? For me it is.........BUT the idea posed in the title remains to have a modicum of truth to it in my opinion.............I don't know how anyone could call it heresy.....
The title of the OP suggests that a person COULD go through their entire lives just reading the King James Bible and be ok. Is there NOT some truth in that? Not every person in the world reads Greek........then again, not every person in the world reads English as displayed in the King James either.........
Is it good to research other versions? For me it is.........BUT the idea posed in the title remains to have a modicum of truth to it in my opinion.............I don't know how anyone could call it heresy.....
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actually you need the greek on a few points
The english translators were catholic based and didnt understand all doctrines well and the greek is original language so it is easy to see the correct meaning
for examble
The word BLESS in the Bible is used 451 times
what does it mean?
any clues?
well look up the parent greek word and it means TO KNEEL DOWN AND PRAY AND ADORE GOD
now who would have known without the greek?
So the KJV should have translated every BLESS and BLESSED into kneel down
let us see how this changes things watch this
Bless the Lord O my soul, and all that is within me bless his holy name
now if it would have been dine more clearly it would say as from the original
Kneel down, pray and worship the Lord O my soul all all that is within me kneel and adore his holy name
much better right?
so yes
we need the greek for some things
We would never be reverent and respectful in church and the enemy would even have us irreverently STAND in worship and prayer! I mean, an earthly king would cut off your head...
but the devil never kneels before God and his chidlren dont eaither so let us be Gods children and always KNEEL in the sanctuary to pray!
amen, praise the Lord!
The english translators were catholic based and didnt understand all doctrines well and the greek is original language so it is easy to see the correct meaning
for examble
The word BLESS in the Bible is used 451 times
what does it mean?
any clues?
well look up the parent greek word and it means TO KNEEL DOWN AND PRAY AND ADORE GOD
now who would have known without the greek?
So the KJV should have translated every BLESS and BLESSED into kneel down
let us see how this changes things watch this
Bless the Lord O my soul, and all that is within me bless his holy name
now if it would have been dine more clearly it would say as from the original
Kneel down, pray and worship the Lord O my soul all all that is within me kneel and adore his holy name
much better right?
so yes
we need the greek for some things
We would never be reverent and respectful in church and the enemy would even have us irreverently STAND in worship and prayer! I mean, an earthly king would cut off your head...
but the devil never kneels before God and his chidlren dont eaither so let us be Gods children and always KNEEL in the sanctuary to pray!
amen, praise the Lord!
J
If you read Gail Riplingers book; don't read the bible first you might get ideas from God that aren't right. Read her book first so she can tell you what to believe, then you will understand that Moses actually wrote the KJV, and the King of England named James is just an usurper part of the conspiracy to dethrone Moses so that no one would know that Moses authored Hamlet along with the bible, in addition to a few "English for Dummies" books.
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So the KJV should have translated every BLESS and BLESSED into kneel down
let us see how this changes things watch this
Bless the Lord O my soul, and all that is within me bless his holy name
now if it would have been dine more clearly it would say as from the original
Kneel down, pray and worship the Lord O my soul all all that is within me kneel and adore his holy name
much better right?
Well, not really.......because you surely added to the translation you are supporting......
The translation was "kneel down"
BUT you added it to be
"kneel down, pray and worship the Lord.........."
Not for nothing, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF ADDING TO is it not?
Now, we surely should bow down and pray and worship God............but............
Then you change it to read............."kneel down and adore........"
So, which is the correct translation.
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We would never be reverent and respectful in church and the enemy would even have us irreverently STAND in worship and prayer! I mean, an earthly king would cut off your head...
Seriously? To stand up before Him is to acknowledge His Kingship..........His Glory........
So the KJV should have translated every BLESS and BLESSED into kneel down
let us see how this changes things watch this
Bless the Lord O my soul, and all that is within me bless his holy name
now if it would have been dine more clearly it would say as from the original
Kneel down, pray and worship the Lord O my soul all all that is within me kneel and adore his holy name
much better right?
Well, not really.......because you surely added to the translation you are supporting......
The translation was "kneel down"
BUT you added it to be
"kneel down, pray and worship the Lord.........."
Not for nothing, BUT THAT'S A LOT OF ADDING TO is it not?
Now, we surely should bow down and pray and worship God............but............
Then you change it to read............."kneel down and adore........"
So, which is the correct translation.
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QUOTE:
We would never be reverent and respectful in church and the enemy would even have us irreverently STAND in worship and prayer! I mean, an earthly king would cut off your head...
Seriously? To stand up before Him is to acknowledge His Kingship..........His Glory........
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God's word, The King James Holy Bible is not out of date. It is very up to date.
It tells us that the mark of the beast will be placed either in the right hand or in the forehead.
King James Bible
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
The Modern Versions which are based on the corrupt Siniaticus and Vaticanus text say that the mark of the beast will be placed ON the right hand or forehead. There is a difference between placing something ON a person's forehead and placing something IN a person's forehead.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
And he requires everyone--small and great, rich and poor, free and slave--to be given a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
International Standard Version
The second beast forces all people—important and unimportant, rich and poor, free and slaves—to be marked on their right hands or on their foreheads,
NET Bible
He also caused everyone (small and great, rich and poor, free and slave) to obtain a mark on their right hand or on their forehead.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And it will cause all, small and great, rich and poor, Masters and Servants, to be given a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,
New International Version
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,
New Living Translation
He required everyone--small and great, rich and poor, free and slave--to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead.
English Standard Version
Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
New American Standard Bible
And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
Look at that, all the Modern Vatican perversions say the mark of the Beast will be placed ON a person's right hand or forehead. That's not correct. The Real Bible says that the mark of the Beast will be placed IN the right hand or IN the forehead in Revelation 13:16.
Therefore it is the modern versions which are out of date. Today we have implantable microchips. And God's word, the King James Bible says that the mark of the beast will be placed in a person's right hand or forehead. So God's word, the King James Bible is very up to date.
And here is another interesting fact, are you aware that the 1611 Edition of the King James Bible also said that the mark would be placed IN the right hand or forehead? Isn't that incredible!!
Think about it, who in 1611 would have ever thought that there would be something as complex as an implantable microchip?? And of course back in 1611, it was literally unheard of. That is, the idea of implantable microchips. But the people in 1611 had access to Bible Prophecy and the same reading in Rev. 13:16 as we do today.
Revelation 13:16
King James Bible (PURE CAMBRIDGE EDITION)
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Revelation Chapter 13:16 (1611 Bible)
[SUP]16[/SUP]And he causeth all, both smal and great rich and poore, free and bond, to receiue a marke in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
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I actually do believe the Kjv is more accurate in saying in the forehead and in the hand. Not because the Kjv is always right but because in the forehead is the mind. In the hand is your strength. The mark will not be a micro chip. It will be because they have been deceived. In their mind and in their actions. The mark is the beasts deception. If you are deceive you will have the mark. Let me ask a question chosenbyhim. Leaving the Alexandrian mss out. Do you believe in the majority text? Or just the Kjv and the greek mss don't mean anything to you?
Well the Majority text is obviously a plurality of all existing Greek mansucripts.
So where the Majority Text is in agreement with the Received Text, that's where I believe in it. And of course you do know that I am a King James Bible believer. I believe and know that it is the pure, perfect, inerrant, and infallible word of God.
And regarding the Greek manuscripts, I trust the Greek texts which are the basis of the King James Holy Bible. Which is mainly the Byzantine text type and the Stephanus Greek text.
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Oh my goodness this again. Why should we read the KJV. Why do we not read the codex, our why not the Septuagint. We could read the bible that a certain saint wrote in 300's ( don't remember his name at the moment) or the other bibles that prominent preachers wrote in the 300's to the 1400's. Why is the eye on the KJV. Because it was the works of the Holy Spirit. Read what you want. You can read the book of Enoch. The life of Adam and Eve, The gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Peter, The acts of Thomas, you can also read Josephus. But, the Holy Spirit put in a book for us the Bible that He wanted us to have. whats the problem?
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The reason I asked. The majority text does not have 1 john 5:7 the way it is rendered in the Kjv. That reading is only supported by 4 or 5 late manuscripts. I know you consider Alexandrian mss corrupt so what do you do with the other bysintene mss? Are they corrupt as well? Are the only mss that are not corrupt are the 4 or 5 late mss? Do you see how this does not make sense? So you have 2 choices. 1 john 5:7 was added like I believe. Or God decided to change 1 john 5:7. It can only be those 2. It is not in early mss but made it to the Kjv. Did God change his mind? Why was it not in the first 2 editions of Erasmus ?
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Look, the bible can be argued over and over. What 1 John 5:7 says and what Isaiah 35:8 say's. God is working through imperfect people. If all had to work from was CC people, man I would come up with some stuff. But, the Holy Spirit has kept the main theme and the most important thing we need to know intact and that is the cross and the preaching of the cross and Him crucified. Is there anything else that we really need to know? Do we really need to know how the Jews ate supper or how they planted their barley. Should eat Passover on are rooftops as the did. Should we blow trumpets on the days of the feast. Should we wear prayer shawls or beanies. Or should we place our faith in the work of the cross?
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I can agree with you. People say that the Kjv is perfect. Many others say it is a great translation but has a few issues. I am just bringing up one. If people want to use only the Kjv it is fine. People should not point out all the flaws of modern translations when the Kjv has it's own set of issues. Can we trust the Kjv? Yes , can we trust the esv and the like? Yes. They are great translations of an inspired text.
Well Jason; here is the thing.
The Johannaeum Comma is attested by the Latin church fathers (Cyprian, d. 258), (Pseudo-Cyprian, 4th century), (Priscillian, d. 385), (the Speculum, 5th century), (Pseudo-Vigillus, either 4th or 5th century), (Varimadum, d. 445/480), (Fulgentius, d. 533).
These notes and this information can be found in the UBS Greek NT (4th ed.).
So while the Comma is not found today in the majority of Greek texts; however that does not change the fact that there is still plenty of edivdence for its authenticity and inclusion.
Also, you can check out this site that also defends the Johannaeum Comma:
Defense of the Johannine Comma
And the bottomline is that the Johannine Comma is in the text of the Holy Bible. Therefore I believe and trust that it belongs there. And indeed it definitely does.