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Gabriel2020

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you don't have to believe it. it is symbolic, and it will come to pass.you will know it when it happens in your life.
 
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Ariel82

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Who are the people that are mentioned as being part of the end times?and what are their specific roles?

I ask because im still trying to figure out the thoughts of organized religion and seeing as how it could be the end times maybe some clarification of scripture as it pertains to the current state of the world may help.

Thanks for your time
Lol there are so many different views on eschatology...depending on which you believe you will get A lot of different answers.
 
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Ariel82

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What is going to come pass? You don't mean my dream do you? I haven't found any biblical evidence for it so I am weary to believe it
I would be too. Its shows though that you have a heart that wants to help which is good, but the enemy will try and twist it into pride and lure people into fortunetellinv instead of trusting fully in God and His ways.
 

Blain

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I would be too. Its shows though that you have a heart that wants to help which is good, but the enemy will try and twist it into pride and lure people into fortunetellinv instead of trusting fully in God and His ways.
Regardless if this dream comes to pass or not I trust God, I am more than willing to serve to and protect his children like in this dream but I also do not know if this is indeed what he has planned. But regardless I know the way I am to go I do not see the path nor do I see the destination but I can feel his hands leading me in the way to go.
if in fact this dreams happens to come to pass it will only be love that is the reason for it, I did not seek to become strong in Christ and in love for myself and if I am to be a warrior of some kind it will only be because of love.

It doesn't matter if he calls me to be a warrior or a servant, a healer or a teacher a prophet or a seer so long as he knows I am willing then I will be whatever he desires at any given time
 

Blain

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you don't have to believe it. it is symbolic, and it will come to pass.you will know it when it happens in your life.
Very true if it is to happen then it doesn't matter matter if I believe it or not. but what exactly is it symbolic for?
 

Gabriel2020

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Only an interpreter of dreams and visions can tell you,.nothing outside a true prophet of God.,or someone who has the gift of prophecy . if not you will have to wait. straight out visions or dreams could hinder God's plan for you. He has never shown straight out visions or dreams.none that i have known, except one vision I had, but I care not to reveal it. Now would you care to have that dream or vision come true the way you saw it or what.
 
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Who are the people that are mentioned as being part of the end times?and what are their specific roles?

I ask because im still trying to figure out the thoughts of organized religion and seeing as how it could be the end times maybe some clarification of scripture as it pertains to the current state of the world may help.

Thanks for your time
A. Absolutely no one here is an expert on End Times, particularly those who think they are.
B. Of all the things to learn about God, End Times is the bottom of the list. How about learning what God wants from you and how he plans on changing you to want the same thing? That ought to keep you learning more important things about him for the next several years.
 

Blain

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Only an interpreter of dreams and visions can tell you,.nothing outside a true prophet of God.,or someone who has the gift of prophecy . if not you will have to wait. straight out visions or dreams could hinder God's plan for you. He has never shown straight out visions or dreams.none that i have known, except one vision I had, but I care not to reveal it. Now would you care to have that dream or vision come true the way you saw it or what.
However god wills it is how it will happen, If it is to come true it will only do so because it was his will until then I will continue to seek after him and whatever happens happens
 
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2 Timothy 3:1-5 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Mark 13:32 - But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


Matthew 24:7 - For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.


Luke 21:11 - And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.


Matthew 24:1-51 - And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to [him] for to shew him the buildings of the temple. (Read More...)


Joel 2:28-32 - And it shall come to pass afterward, [that] I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Read More...)


1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


Matthew 24:6 - And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.


Revelation 13:16-17 - And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (Read More...)


2 Timothy 3:1-4 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Luke 21:25 - And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;


Luke 21:36 - Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)


Revelation 3:3 - Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


Daniel 12:4 - But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, [even] to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


2 Timothy 3:1-17 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. (Read More...)


Matthew 24:21-22 - For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (Read More...)


Matthew 24:36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


2 Peter 3:3-4 - Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
That is great thank you.
 
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A. Absolutely no one here is an expert on End Times, particularly those who think they are.
B. Of all the things to learn about God, End Times is the bottom of the list. How about learning what God wants from you and how he plans on changing you to want the same thing? That ought to keep you learning more important things about him for the next several years.
Well...I know what God wants from me,not that I'm perfect but I don't think that He is trying to change me.

I certainly don't need to spend years trying to decipher His advice.

He speaks plainly for a reason...that reason being that we aren't supposed to try to interpret His advice ...we are just supposed to follow it.

So many supposed Christians got themselves possibly banned from Heaven by doing what you advised me to do.

They spend years going over His advice trying to find ways to twist it to fit their lives.

In the process they live as whores,racists, pedophiles,tyrants etc.

Thanks for the input though!
 
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A. Absolutely no one here is an expert on End Times, particularly those who think they are.
B. Of all the things to learn about God, End Times is the bottom of the list. How about learning what God wants from you and how he plans on changing you to want the same thing? That ought to keep you learning more important things about him for the next several years.
Are you sure that you aren't a expert? Because you sound like a paster which would make you extra special.

You were talking about studying for years,well we've been studying the Bible for thousands of years and what we've seemed to have gotten from that is ways to excuse ourselves from not following His word precisely as He says.

We've gotten "it's not me it's satan" and that's about it,hence the end of the world.

So what more would years of studying do and do you really think that we deserve years more?

Thanks for your time I always appreciate your input ??????!
 
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In answer to your question, Jesus was given a scroll with seven seals, at the present time NONE of the seals have been opened. When the first seal is opened then that will begin the actual time of the end, after opening the first seal, then in less then 10 years it will all be over and we will begin to live in the actual kingdom of God with Satan bound. So the very first thing to watch for is the first seal. The first seal is the Antichrist. When this man shows up on the world scene then you can know for sure that the end is less then 10 years away. One way you can recognize the Antichrist is because he will be extremely successful at warfare. Another way is that he will have tremendous appeal to the ungodly people of the world, also he will blaspheme the God of the bible big time. People will come to the point of worshipping him. DO NOT LET ANYONE FOOL YOU, this has to happen BEFORE Jesus returns for the church. So if you want to know what person to look for to know that it is the end, look for a world leader that everyone wants to follow and who disrespects God.
 
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You know the other day I was searching youtube for a video on revelation and came across one that appeared to be what I was looking for, however it was not it was a video about people called light workers. Apparently there are ten attributes and if you have some of these very common attributes you are a light worker one of the 144000 and are destined to save the world.
Mainly it was a feel good video trying to make people feel special so they would donate money.

I suppose light workers is a good term to call such people who would serve in the tribulation but is it the 144000?
Ever since I became a Christian even before I knew what the rapture was I had a very deep and powerful desire to serve and protect in the tribulation I don't know why but it was only when I became saved and I had a deep love for God and for all others that this desire appeared in me.

I have even had dreams and visions that honestly I am always scared to talk about because honestly it sounds kind of silly but I think for the sake of the discussion I should share this one at least. I have seen the tribulation several times the ground was so drenched in blood and human remains that there was nowhere you could not walk without being covered in it all and the smell of the blood and rotting body remains and organs was everywhere you went but there was also demons roaming the place killing and slaughtering people like it was the best and most fun time in the world.

I remember seeing a women and her young daughter and a demon rushed at them when suddenly I stood in front of the blow protecting them, the intensity in my eyes was beyond profound it was like a raging burning fire of the deepest love and protection for God's children even seeing my eyes in the dream I was overwhelmed by the brute force of that fire in them and the demon was absolutely horrified and began screaming in absolute terror as if it was God himself who was staring back at it through my eyes and I woke up suddenly still in total shock from the powerful fire I felt in those eyes.

I realize how silly this sounds and I have not been able to find any scripture to support this dream so I tend to keep it to myself but for some reason I felt I had to share it in this thread today. I often times have pondered about this dream, That Blain I saw in it was interesting I didn't recognize myself and yet I did it was like I was me but at the same wasn't.
My interpretation is that God was just demonstrating to you the power that He has given you against the forces of evil. Of course we are all given that power it is just that many do not recognize it.
 
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Huh....must have been in one of my dreams, I thought that there was folk that played a direct role like the 4 horsemen and some dude that is supposed to pass judgement on the world...or are you guys/gals not as astute as I thought that you were? I'm not being derogatory.