Is baptism necessary to get into Heaven

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Vanessa_2010

Vanessa_2010

Junior Member
#1
Oct 14, 2009
4
0
1
#1
Vanessa_2010 said:
Great question! Baptism is a physical representation of what should happen in the spiritual realm. Baptism represents the death, burial and resurrection of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. (1st Corinthians 15:13) In the book of John 3:1-21, Jesus told Nicodemus "You must be born again." We cant enter in through the flesh, because no flesh shall glory in His presence; Nor can we please God in our flesh. Because God is Holy, He said "be ye Holy for I am Holy" and our flesh is corruptible. Therefore, baptism is essential to our overall transformation as we convert from carnal(flesh) to celestial(spiritual). As we begin to receive the word of God in our spirit we begin to be convicted. When we are convicted there is a disturbance within our spirit that desires to be right and do right also known as surrendering. We will always fail trying to do God, know God and receive God through our own knowledge and intellect.(Note: Peters revelation did not come until He renewed his mind; Then God revealed to him who Jesus was. Therefore we must die to our sin, and allow the spirit of God "His Word" to penatrate our hearts, wash us and make us whole. We show this through baptism. We illustrate dying to our sin nature which is our past ways, and former lifestyle and being Renewed in mind, body and the Spirit. (Romans 12:1-2). So regarding the oxymoron about Grandma dying before being saved; Only God knows that His Word broke up the fallow grounds of her heart and she received salvation which is Jesus Christ. (Believe,Have Faith,Confess Jesus is Lord, Repent & Be Transformed.)
Click to expand...
 
H

Hoffco

Guest
#2
#2
NO, Baptism is not necessary to go to Heaven. But, our baptism does not represent Jesus at all, Our being baptized represents our death to sin and being born of God to a new holy life. You said this in the last part of you message," we must die to sin"... "and being Renewed in mind, body and spirit" I would not say that our mind and body are renewed in the new birth,Just the spirit. It is renewal of the spiritual side of man not the physical body. Be careful of saying the "flesh"/Body, is sinful, our body is not sinful, We can sin with our body or we can do holy things with our body. Paul, in Romans 8, uses the "flesh" to represent the "sin nature" in us, not our body. Love to all, Hoffco
 
You must log in or register to reply here.