Out of Curiosity
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I'm just curious because there was a time that I didn't really believe that mental illness was real. That was before I worked in the field, of course.
I used to read This Present Darkness and books like that at my mother's encouragement and I had a view of human behavior as spiritually driven.
Even after my experience professionally, I still find it largely a mystery and I wanted to see what other Christian's thoughts are on the subject.
Thanks for your responses.
I used to read This Present Darkness and books like that at my mother's encouragement and I had a view of human behavior as spiritually driven.
Even after my experience professionally, I still find it largely a mystery and I wanted to see what other Christian's thoughts are on the subject.
Thanks for your responses.
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I read those books as a teen too. Never swayed my belief in mental illness.
The body breaks down. Or is even born broken at times. The brain is physical, technically. So if the rest of the body can break down or be born broken why can't the brain, and the mind connected to it?
Brain scans show that certain areas of the brain light up, or don't light up, depending on the issue. Chemicals can be measured in the brain/body. These are all consistent with certain mental illnesses.
I have depression. Had it most of my life. Certain situations it is not as bad, other situations make it worse. That sounds, to me, consistent with brain function.
I'm not sure what the big mystery is. As stated above, if the rest of the physical body can be unhealthy, why can't the brain as well?
Even conditions like schizophrenia can change according to circumstances. For example, countries who are more poor and community oriented have a higher rate of recovery for schizophrenics that more 'civilized' countries, such as the US. This is due to how the schizo is viewed and treated by the world around them. They are given the same expectations as other citizens, expected to help out in the village, and have a role. The mental illness is downplayed and they are treated normally.
In the US and similar countries schizos are singled out, labeled and treated differently. While also having less expectations on them. And as a result their illness is zeroed in on, and as a result they don't get past it. So if how a person is treated and viewed changes their mental makeup, then why would that affect a spiritual issue, if that's all it were?
Really thinking mental illness through, there is a lot of logic to support that the brain is ill, not the spirit.
The body breaks down. Or is even born broken at times. The brain is physical, technically. So if the rest of the body can break down or be born broken why can't the brain, and the mind connected to it?
Brain scans show that certain areas of the brain light up, or don't light up, depending on the issue. Chemicals can be measured in the brain/body. These are all consistent with certain mental illnesses.
I have depression. Had it most of my life. Certain situations it is not as bad, other situations make it worse. That sounds, to me, consistent with brain function.
I'm not sure what the big mystery is. As stated above, if the rest of the physical body can be unhealthy, why can't the brain as well?
Even conditions like schizophrenia can change according to circumstances. For example, countries who are more poor and community oriented have a higher rate of recovery for schizophrenics that more 'civilized' countries, such as the US. This is due to how the schizo is viewed and treated by the world around them. They are given the same expectations as other citizens, expected to help out in the village, and have a role. The mental illness is downplayed and they are treated normally.
In the US and similar countries schizos are singled out, labeled and treated differently. While also having less expectations on them. And as a result their illness is zeroed in on, and as a result they don't get past it. So if how a person is treated and viewed changes their mental makeup, then why would that affect a spiritual issue, if that's all it were?
Really thinking mental illness through, there is a lot of logic to support that the brain is ill, not the spirit.
T
I have been diagnosed with PTSD, OCD,HORDING, and most recently a self diagnoses of social anxiety.If you ask me at this point their all related in some way.The PTSD was triggered at the age of 5-1/2 by multiple occurrences of violent sexual assault on me.It wasn't until I was saved at the age of 32 that I was able by the love of GOD,other christians,prayer, BIBLE studies and reading,Behavioral health groups,Celebrate recovery,psychiatrist and consulars, that I had the courage to begin to overcome the debilitating effects.JESUS BLOOD has the ability to heal but it takes a lifetime of relationship with JESUS to get us to to the points that he wills us to.Mental Illness is a reality of some of our battles that we participate in, with CHRIST power and victory.Progress until we are perfected by HIM is what were promised by HIM.Today I seek reasonable happiness in this life until I have supreme happyness with HIM forever in the next.Thank GOD and you for providing a place to share. IN JESUS NAME,DAVID CARSKADON
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No behavioral issues. I worked in mental health and have witnessed some strange theories from Christians regarding the topic. I have also worked with individuals diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, major depressive disorder and other severe MH issues who are very religious and I wonder why they are so ill at times what with their faith....
shineyourlight;bt18168 said:
Question is, what do you think is mental illness? 
I think this is a controversy topic.
What exactly are you looking for?
I think this is a controversy topic. What exactly are you looking for?
I agree that this can be a controversial topic...that is why I chose it
The answer can align to how anyone interprets the question. I am only looking for these answers as prompted.
T
I believe in the HOLY SPIRIT OF THE LORD, and GODS TRINITY,that we as Christians must become mature enough to consciously separate what we know about religious behavior, and what we live out in HIS/our spiritual behavior, concerning ourselves and others. In that respect, we must remember and act accordingly, in the context that he died and rose again hoping that all would except HIM, mentally ill our not. GOD BLESS you and yours
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Mental illness can be either natural, spiritual or both like with any another disease. Abram Hoffer MD healed 88% of his mental patients in just 6 months suffering from Schizophernia, depression and psychosis in the early 1950tees with Niacin or B3. he was in his 90tees sharper than any other half his age. Of course the disease management industry is against using Vitamins for curing disease as there is no money in healing people and a patient cured is a customer lost The gut is called our second brain and with the vegas nerve having a direct connection from the gut straight through the blood brain barrier and a person who gets a head injury will have an inflamed gut withing 30 minutes. There are nine time more nerve or communcation pathways going up than down and that is why people now heal patients with authism by restoring the gut. But hey, that is all natural approach. If it is spiritual you take authority and cast it out and a spirit can scramble whats enters peoples mind if they are not free. I know from a lady who ask a person she was dining with if she wanted to accept Jesus into her life and she got aggressive where she quickly bound that spirit and then a few minutes later asked the question again and the person was so glad she got the invitation to accept Him. ;-) Sometimes it is both and we work holistically on the person. Any disease can start in the natural and a spirit can later attach itself to that as well. Jesus cast out devils and people were instantly healed. You can walk bare naked outside in the snow and get a cold, that is just cause and effect. Even cancer is reversable naturally just like scurvey or many other diseases if you give the body the right building blocks (not pharmaceutical - chemo came from mustard gas and still only gives a 2.1% survival rate to live after five years after being treated by the cancer mafia. I have two friends who reversed their cancer naturally. Paul did his non hodskin lymphoma now 18 years ago, Melinda her leukimie and my wife just last year. Anyway, sorry for the ling answer. God bless
The gut is called our second brain and with the vegas nerve having a direct connection from the gut straight through the blood brain barrier and a person who gets a head injury will have an inflamed gut withing 30 minutes. There are nine time more nerve or communcation pathways going up than down and that is why people now heal patients with authism by restoring the gut. But hey, that is all natural approach. If it is spiritual you take authority and cast it out and a spirit can scramble whats enters peoples mind if they are not free. I know from a lady who ask a person she was dining with if she wanted to accept Jesus into her life and she got aggressive where she quickly bound that spirit and then a few minutes later asked the question again and the person was so glad she got the invitation to accept Him. ;-) Sometimes it is both and we work holistically on the person. Any disease can start in the natural and a spirit can later attach itself to that as well. Jesus cast out devils and people were instantly healed. You can walk bare naked outside in the snow and get a cold, that is just cause and effect. Even cancer is reversable naturally just like scurvey or many other diseases if you give the body the right building blocks (not pharmaceutical - chemo came from mustard gas and still only gives a 2.1% survival rate to live after five years after being treated by the cancer mafia. I have two friends who reversed their cancer naturally. Paul did his non hodskin lymphoma now 18 years ago, Melinda her leukimie and my wife just last year. Anyway, sorry for the ling answer. God bless
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