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Mckenzie84

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#41
I hope the OP is a troll just fishing for reactions from Christians, using a made up story as bait. I hope this because that means there's one less screwed up family in complete and total turmoil.

The downside is, if this person is a troll, it means they don't know the Lord.

Prayer for this individual is needed, regardless.
Thanks but I am not a troll and I don't seek people's attention or reaction. This is my first time I have ever been open with complete strangers. I am in need of prayer and I know I don't deserve it.
 
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Thanks but I am not a troll and I don't seek people's attention or reaction. This is my first time I have ever been open with complete strangers. I am in need of prayer and I know I don't deserve it.
Yes you do deserve prayer, and love and guidance. Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discoraged, for the Lord our God will be with you wherever you go.

Be at peace and know that though you are struggling now, and things may get a little dicey with you and your husband, God is with you and will never leave you or forsake you. You are in my heartfelt prayers.
 

blue_ladybug

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Your right I do need council I need help I am a mess I can't do this on my own. I wake up every day crying I'm due for work tomo and I don't wanna go. I just want to be alone crying.

Crying won't do you a bit of good. Dry your eyes and go to work tomorrow. And call on God to strengthen you. :)
 
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BarlyGurl

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#44
Thanks but I am not a troll and I don't seek people's attention or reaction. This is my first time I have ever been open with complete strangers. I am in need of prayer and I know I don't deserve it.
YAY... You came back! PTL, I think you are already in a better place cuz you are typing legible sentences..:).Be assured there are people praying for you, get in the word and get prepared to be honest with your husband. Screen out the junk from the thread, receive what you need and ... GO take care of your business!
 
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kaylagrl

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#45
Thanks but I am not a troll and I don't seek people's attention or reaction. This is my first time I have ever been open with complete strangers. I am in need of prayer and I know I don't deserve it.
None of us deserve Gods grace and mercy,not one.I feel you are very sincere and I think you need to reach out for help.If you have a family member or friend you could trust till you find a counselor? A lot of people here are praying for you Im sure. God not only forgives but he throws your sin into the deepest sea never to be remembered against you again.I hope you can find help really soon. You can move pass this,you are forgiven as soon as you ask. The hard part is forgiving yourself. Your sin doesnt define you or your future. You are a brand new person in Christ.Ask Him into your heart again and He will lift this heavy burden.Blessings on you.
 
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Mckenzie84

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None of us deserve Gods grace and mercy,not one.I feel you are very sincere and I think you need to reach out for help.If you have a family member or friend you could trust till you find a counselor? A lot of people here are praying for you Im sure. God not only forgives but he throws your sin into the deepest sea never to be remembered against you again.I hope you can find help really soon. You can move pass this,you are forgiven as soon as you ask. The hard part is forgiving yourself. Your sin doesnt define you or your future. You are a brand new person in Christ.Ask Him into your heart again and He will lift this heavy burden.Blessings on you.

I thank you all for your words it has helped me get through my day. I know our God is a God of power love and mercy. As a mother I only hope to guide my kids in the correct paths but we all know our children never always do the correct thing. That hurts us as parents. So thinking about what I did to my father continually is very hurtful to me. He kept trying to warn me and I didn't listen, even towards the end of the affair I went to church and I had to record the sermons because I couldn't believe that what the pastor was saying was all towards my life. I broke down then 2weekslater all this happened that man walked out I was left empty and I don't understand why? Like is it because I really was convinced that it could have worked out? Is it because I didn't do it myself ? Because this has happened is it making me seek God more? Am I such a bad person that I feel this way? I have hurt my husband the one that has held to those vows many years ago. How can I be so selfish? It makes me sad because I have not been content for a long time and I have no underlining issues why nothing in my past has triggered me to act out this way. God has been so good to me. Through everything and I go and do this. How can I do that after all Gods done for me and my family.
 
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kaylagrl

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I thank you all for your words it has helped me get through my day. I know our God is a God of power love and mercy. As a mother I only hope to guide my kids in the correct paths but we all know our children never always do the correct thing. That hurts us as parents. So thinking about what I did to my father continually is very hurtful to me. He kept trying to warn me and I didn't listen, even towards the end of the affair I went to church and I had to record the sermons because I couldn't believe that what the pastor was saying was all towards my life. I broke down then 2weekslater all this happened that man walked out I was left empty and I don't understand why? Like is it because I really was convinced that it could have worked out? Is it because I didn't do it myself ? Because this has happened is it making me seek God more? Am I such a bad person that I feel this way? I have hurt my husband the one that has held to those vows many years ago. How can I be so selfish? It makes me sad because I have not been content for a long time and I have no underlining issues why nothing in my past has triggered me to act out this way. God has been so good to me. Through everything and I go and do this. How can I do that after all Gods done for me and my family.
Are you certain you have no self esteem issues? There has to be a reason deep down that you have turned away from your marriage.Can you pin point when that began to happen? When did you start turning outside your marriage for affection? My guess is that you feel empty because you gave the very deepest part of yourself to this other man. Maybe you felt he could solve your problems? Make you feel loved,cherished? Make you feel like the center of attention? Something along those lines.You feel empty because you're using him to fill a need only God can fill,unconditional love.

The Holy Spirit is convicting you thats certain.You say you havent been content for a long time,what do you mean by that.What triggered that feeling for you? You're not a bad person,you're just a lost person who needs to come back to the right path.Sex is a powerful motivator.It has caused presidents to preachers to fall.Once you let yourself believe its ok its easier every time you do it.You justify it in your head.The devil never asks us to jump into sin,he tells us to stick a toe in,its not that bad,you deserve this,it feels good. An inch at a time until we're totally bound.Id like to share a song with you that my father sings often,its an old one but I think you may get something from the words.I cry when I hear it...


The Brush

Life started out like a canvas, and God started painting on me,
But I took the paintbrush from Jesus, and painted what I wished to see;
The colors I painted kept running, and the objects were all out of size.
I had made a mess of my painting, my way now seemed so unwise.


So I brought my painting to Jesus, all the colors, all the pieces, so wrong,
In the markets of earth it was worthless, but His blood made my painting belong.
He worked with no condemnation, never mentioned the mess I had made.
Then He dipped His brush in the rainbow, and He signed it, "The Price Has Been Paid."


When I gave the brush back to Jesus, when I gave the brush back to Him.
He started all over life's canvas to fill, when I gave to Jesus the brush of my will.

Composer and author Chuck Milhuff
Speer arrangement by Harold Lane
Copyright (c) 1975 Ben Speer Music

Give Him your brush my friend,let Him make a new painting of your life.
 
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BarlyGurl

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#48
that's good Kayla... the dip your toe in.

I think that is basically it... she was wooed by temptation is a small thing and ignored the HS then into sin and .... splash she was IN SIN for a LONG TIME. I don't think it is necessary to go LOOKING for "Issues" we have THE ISSUE identified... it is sin a BIG ONE with MANY little ones attached... and she has been living in the pigpen filth of it for a LONG time.

That is it... no psychology analysis necessary.

She needs to REPENT FULLY Before god... that means Mackenzie will probably need to make a list during prayer time with God... and then confess and repent of ALL the sinning that has been going on in her life for the "long time". Then when she is done... she is clean before him... then she needs to confess (not every lurid detail) to her husband and be HONEST with him.
 

jsr1221

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She needs to go to a counselor.I wouldnt advise blurting this out at the supper table.She has issues she needs to deal with,then she needs to deal with her marriage. JMO
And helping those issues would be burying what she did inside trying to forget it ever happened, and letting her husband believe a lie? How is that a healthy marriage? Honesty is supposed to be everything. I'm not advocating her running up when he comes to work, kissing him on the xhee, saying "Hi honey, how was work? Ohh by the way, I cheated on you. Forgive me?". There's a time and place for everything. But if you're advocating she never tells her husband, and he lives the rest of his life not knowing what happened... This is gonna be blunt, but it's a joke. To me, all those vows don't even matter if you can't be honest with the person you fell in love with and made a vow with under God. I think it's pure selfishness.
 
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jsr1221

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that's good Kayla... the dip your toe in.

I think that is basically it... she was wooed by temptation is a small thing and ignored the HS then into sin and .... splash she was IN SIN for a LONG TIME. I don't think it is necessary to go LOOKING for "Issues" we have THE ISSUE identified... it is sin a BIG ONE with MANY little ones attached... and she has been living in the pigpen filth of it for a LONG time.

That is it... no psychology analysis necessary.

She needs to REPENT FULLY Before god... that means Mackenzie will probably need to make a list during prayer time with God... and then confess and repent of ALL the sinning that has been going on in her life for the "long time". Then when she is done... she is clean before him... then she needs to confess (not every lurid detail) to her husband and be HONEST with him.
If the husband is forgiving and wants to try to work on the marriage with her but wants to know every detail in order to have that happened, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
 
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Risen2014

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#51
I would encourage you to pour your heart out to God. He hears the unspoken words of our heart and He understand our tears language. You have received some really great advice from this sides but at the end of the day, you have to make the decision to put a stop to the habitual fling that not only tear you apart but also tear your family apart.
 
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jonl

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#53
Are you certain you have no self esteem issues? There has to be a reason deep down that you have turned away from your marriage.Can you pin point when that began to happen? When did you start turning outside your marriage for affection? My guess is that you feel empty because you gave the very deepest part of yourself to this other man. Maybe you felt he could solve your problems? Make you feel loved,cherished? Make you feel like the center of attention? Something along those lines.You feel empty because you're using him to fill a need only God can fill,unconditional love.

The Holy Spirit is convicting you thats certain.You say you havent been content for a long time,what do you mean by that.What triggered that feeling for you? You're not a bad person,you're just a lost person who needs to come back to the right path.Sex is a powerful motivator.It has caused presidents to preachers to fall.Once you let yourself believe its ok its easier every time you do it.You justify it in your head.The devil never asks us to jump into sin,he tells us to stick a toe in,its not that bad,you deserve this,it feels good. An inch at a time until we're totally bound.Id like to share a song with you that my father sings often,its an old one but I think you may get something from the words.I cry when I hear it...


The Brush

Life started out like a canvas, and God started painting on me,
But I took the paintbrush from Jesus, and painted what I wished to see;
The colors I painted kept running, and the objects were all out of size.
I had made a mess of my painting, my way now seemed so unwise.


So I brought my painting to Jesus, all the colors, all the pieces, so wrong,
In the markets of earth it was worthless, but His blood made my painting belong.
He worked with no condemnation, never mentioned the mess I had made.
Then He dipped His brush in the rainbow, and He signed it, "The Price Has Been Paid."


When I gave the brush back to Jesus, when I gave the brush back to Him.
He started all over life's canvas to fill, when I gave to Jesus the brush of my will.

Composer and author Chuck Milhuff
Speer arrangement by Harold Lane
Copyright (c) 1975 Ben Speer Music

Give Him your brush my friend,let Him make a new painting of your life.
That song reminds me of the song “On the Wings of a Snow White Dove” sang by Robert Duvall (Mac) in the movie “Tender Mercies.” His 18 year old daughter Ellen Barkin (Sue Ellen) had come to visit him after he had left their family when she was a young child. She asked him to sing the song he used to sing to her as a child.

This is a video of Robert Duvall and Gail Younge singing “On the Wings of a Snow White Dove.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75JZ2kQIhlA
 
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kaylagrl

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And helping those issues would be burying what she did inside trying to forget it ever happened, and letting her husband believe a lie? How is that a healthy marriage? Honesty is supposed to be everything. I'm not advocating her running up when he comes to work, kissing him on the xhee, saying "Hi honey, how was work? Ohh by the way, I cheated on you. Forgive me?". There's a time and place for everything. But if you're advocating she never tells her husband, and he lives the rest of his life not knowing what happened... This is gonna be blunt, but it's a joke. To me, all those vows don't even matter if you can't be honest with the person you fell in love with and made a vow with under God. I think it's pure selfishness.
You'll have to reread my posts,I never said she shouldnt tell her husband,I said she should tell her husband inside of marriage counseling. Read back and you will see. She surely should not keep it secret,but there is a time and place.She needs help.
 
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kaylagrl

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That song reminds me of the song “On the Wings of a Snow White Dove” sang by Robert Duvall (Mac) in the movie “Tender Mercies.” His 18 year old daughter Ellen Barkin (Sue Ellen) had come to visit him after he had left their family when she was a young child. She asked him to sing the song he used to sing to her as a child.

This is a video of Robert Duvall and Gail Younge singing “On the Wings of a Snow White Dove.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75JZ2kQIhlA

Yes I know that one its an old,old one,and a good one! I like The Brush because it shows how much we mess up our lives and how much we need to bring the broken pieces to Jesus and He mends us like we never sinned at all.
 
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kaylagrl

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If the husband is forgiving and wants to try to work on the marriage with her but wants to know every detail in order to have that happened, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Thats private and something they'll have to deal with in counseling.I dont think we need to lay more burdens on her.
 

jsr1221

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You'll have to reread my posts,I never said she shouldnt tell her husband,I said she should tell her husband inside of marriage counseling. Read back and you will see. She surely should not keep it secret,but there is a time and place.She needs help.
I misunderstood, then. Forgive me for that. I agree it's between her and her husband, and no need to make her feel any worse than she already does.
 

Jenizona

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I'm sorry, but what do you mean "if you decide." A marriage is supposed to be built on trust. If she can't be honest what she did to the man she made a vow under God to be with.. Why even be married in the first place? I agree that she needs to get it right with God, but it starts with telling her husband everything. Or else she will just be living in a lie.
jsr1221, Sometimes telling someone can be more damaging than not telling them. Here is an excerpt from an interview with Mira Kirshenbaum, who wrote When Good People Have Affairs: Inside the Hearts & Minds of People in Two Relationships.

Should you confess if you feel guilty about it?
No. I've got to tell you that this is very, very important. I'm a person who is just an advocate of truth. I really will do anything to tell the truth, so it took me a long time to get to the point where I say, just don't tell. Because how does it make a person less guilty to inflict terrible pain on someone? Which is exactly what the confession does. It puts the other person in a permanent state of hurt and grief and loss of trust and an inability to feel safe, and it doesn't alleviate your guilt. Your relationship is dealt a potentially devastating blow. Honesty is great, but it's an abstract moral principle.... The higher moral principle, I believe, is not hurting people. And when you confess to having an affair, you are hurting someone more than you can ever imagine. So I tell people, if you care that much about honesty, figure out who you want to be with, commit to that relationship and devote the rest of your life to making it the most honest relationship you can. But confessing your affair is the kind of honesty that is unnecessarily destructive. There are two huge exceptions to not telling: if you're having an affair and you haven't practiced safe sex, even if it's only one time, you have to tell. Again, the moral principle is minimizing the hurt. But this time, the greatest risk of hurt comes from inflicting a sexually transmitted disease, and I've never seen a relationship recover from that. You also have to tell if discovery is imminent or likely. If you're going to be found out, then it's better for you to be the one to make the confession first.
 

jsr1221

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jsr1221, Sometimes telling someone can be more damaging than not telling them. Here is an excerpt from an interview with Mira Kirshenbaum, who wrote When Good People Have Affairs: Inside the Hearts & Minds of People in Two Relationships.

Should you confess if you feel guilty about it?
No. I've got to tell you that this is very, very important. I'm a person who is just an advocate of truth. I really will do anything to tell the truth, so it took me a long time to get to the point where I say, just don't tell. Because how does it make a person less guilty to inflict terrible pain on someone? Which is exactly what the confession does. It puts the other person in a permanent state of hurt and grief and loss of trust and an inability to feel safe, and it doesn't alleviate your guilt. Your relationship is dealt a potentially devastating blow. Honesty is great, but it's an abstract moral principle.... The higher moral principle, I believe, is not hurting people. And when you confess to having an affair, you are hurting someone more than you can ever imagine. So I tell people, if you care that much about honesty, figure out who you want to be with, commit to that relationship and devote the rest of your life to making it the most honest relationship you can. But confessing your affair is the kind of honesty that is unnecessarily destructive. There are two huge exceptions to not telling: if you're having an affair and you haven't practiced safe sex, even if it's only one time, you have to tell. Again, the moral principle is minimizing the hurt. But this time, the greatest risk of hurt comes from inflicting a sexually transmitted disease, and I've never seen a relationship recover from that. You also have to tell if discovery is imminent or likely. If you're going to be found out, then it's better for you to be the one to make the confession first.

I disagree 100 percent with this. If it's going to be more damaging, then so be it. But people don't cheat because everything is perfect. They cheat because something is wrong... And if the husband doesn't know when something is wrong, how is supposed to be the leader in the marriage?