6 Weeks before the wedding & now this...

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JeniBean

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You know, I have thought about things in that sense ... he even jokes about being the devil sometimes, although I know he - at the end of the day- believes in God. Here's where things get murky for me and I begin to feel guilty. I have lied to him quite a bit. Usually, it was because I was scared that he would blow up in reaction to whatever it was.... Lately the lies are related to the fact that I was hiding money for my son etc. I had good reason for it - but he sees it as lies and distrust. He does not lie (from what I can tell) but he is a master manipulator and he spins things to his benefit. Yes, he has taken my money and he says he's spent it like "our money"....

At the end of the day, he's jealous of anything I do without him. He was jealous of a work meeting I had yesterday because my CEO seemed very interested in what I wanted to further my career. He admitted that he was jealous and he seemed very annoyed. He is jealous of the time I want to spend with my son... and he is jealous of anytime I am away from him.
The DEVIL DOES BELIEVE IN GOD!!!!!!!!!!! You're making excuses, because the manipulator / spin devil in him has turned you into this.

PLEASE STOP with the excuses and go!!!!

AND if you went through with the marriage...it's only gets worse!!!! MUCH worse!!!
 
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There is another way of talking about the relationship. What works for you, and how do you express yourself?
Do you feel free and enlivened or did you in the past?

You are still emotionally involved with your partner, and in bonding terms married to him. The language is one of polarised extremes rather than two people exploring life and their present and futures together.

Now an adult way of dealing with where you are, based on your age and experience, it talking about your day, your ups and downs, what social things you would like to do together, how much you have appreciated things over the last 6 months.

Depression, and struggles, stress, can easily turn a relationship upside down, and when people get insecure they get possessive. You can explore the idea of taking things back to where you would like them to be, rather than, I am leaving and its over type language.

Now this does not mean it is not going there, but this is how reality breaks in, by looking at how things are working.
 

GodisGlorious

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I would be running as fast as I can in the other direction if this were me. Just saying...
 
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There is another way of talking about the relationship. What works for you, and how do you express yourself?
Do you feel free and enlivened or did you in the past?

You are still emotionally involved with your partner, and in bonding terms married to him. The language is one of polarised extremes rather than two people exploring life and their present and futures together.

Now an adult way of dealing with where you are, based on your age and experience, it talking about your day, your ups and downs, what social things you would like to do together, how much you have appreciated things over the last 6 months.

Depression, and struggles, stress, can easily turn a relationship upside down, and when people get insecure they get possessive. You can explore the idea of taking things back to where you would like them to be, rather than, I am leaving and its over type language.

Now this does not mean it is not going there, but this is how reality breaks in, by looking at how things are working.
Im sorry but it seems you havent read the whole thread from the beginning. Is that the case? If it isnt I apologize. According to soconfused,the guy is controlling,manipulative, and verbally abusive. So, your words do not fit the circumstances.
If you have read the whole thread,Id advice you to get educated on abusive behavior before you attempt at being part of the solution.
 

notuptome

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This made me cry... it is so true. I need more of this - more prayer - more time on my knees asking for help.

The other thing that I just realized is that I truly need to see my fiancé as the devil. His manipulation and begging and twisting... it is like the devil weaseling his way back into my life...

And many of his actions are evil. Maybe if I look at him and his actions in that form - I will understand more of what's transpiring spiritually....

That really clicks for me! It helps me feel the pain in the way ...I think I need to...

Love is patient - love is kind -- he is displaying none of that -- out of genuine concern. I think his kindness and times of patience are merely bologna to get me reeled back into his web....
You need to think of yourself and not of him. He cares far less about you than you do about him. He needs your money not you.

Love does not act as he acts toward you.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Im sorry but it seems you havent read
Being responsible we are talking here of insecurity, jealously, need and hurt. We need to give all the different aspects of a situation, especially if the person has not really yet made a decision. Until the real facts in there mind is clear, it will always create this see saw situation. Also, if you were thinking of marrying someone, moved in with them, there is a relationship obligation to be a bit mature and face where you are as a couple. A lot of insecurity is being expressed, that leads to agression, and not reconciliation.

My advice to any couple is not to get married until they have spent 2 years getting to know the person. It is hard to fake your real personality over such an extended period. Rushing into sleeping with someone, and then marrying them in 6 months is asking for trouble.

SOconfused needs contact with someone outside the relationship for advice and support.

To me the whole basis of the relationship is wrong, but the Lord can and does transform many situations that appear like this into something much better.
 
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Thanks for the support here. I am prepared to bolt out in the morning when he leaves. He thinks we are going out of town to be with my son for the weekend (that was a fight in of itself). But I'm just going to go.

It's hard...we were literally on the phone today (his pushing) w the wedding venue today. But I know that can't happen. My gut says it's wrong. It js just so painful to completely cut him out. But I think it's the only way at this point. I have left several times and he always gets me back.
 
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Tintin

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Thanks for the support here. I am prepared to bolt out in the morning when he leaves. He thinks we are going out of town to be with my son for the weekend (that was a fight in of itself). But I'm just going to go.

It's hard...we were literally on the phone today (his pushing) w the wedding venue today. But I know that can't happen. My gut says it's wrong. It js just so painful to completely cut him out. But I think it's the only way at this point. I have left several times and he always gets me back.
The devil is like a roaring lion, looking for who he can devour. He comes to steal, kill and destroy. But Jesus comes that you may have life in abundance. Jesus is for you, not against you. He is Life, not Death. Now go! God is watching over you. You're in my prayers.
 
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ray_james

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I have left several times and he always gets me back.
I am concerned about this statement. What made you come back?
When you leave this man this time, do not ever think about coming back.

I will praying that God will give you the strength and courage you need as you do this!
 

blue_ladybug

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More importantly, HOW?? You're letting him run your life. The time is coming fast when he'll quit his job just to be with you 24/7 and then you'll be out of luck to leave. Get off the darn computer and go!!
 
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Being responsible we are talking here of insecurity, jealously, need and hurt. We need to give all the different aspects of a situation, especially if the person has not really yet made a decision. Until the real facts in there mind is clear, it will always create this see saw situation. Also, if you were thinking of marrying someone, moved in with them, there is a relationship obligation to be a bit mature and face where you are as a couple. A lot of insecurity is being expressed, that leads to agression, and not reconciliation.

My advice to any couple is not to get married until they have spent 2 years getting to know the person. It is hard to fake your real personality over such an extended period. Rushing into sleeping with someone, and then marrying them in 6 months is asking for trouble.

SOconfused needs contact with someone outside the relationship for advice and support.

To me the whole basis of the relationship is wrong, but the Lord can and does transform many situations that appear like this into something much better.
Being responsible we are talking here of insecurity, jealously, need and hurt.

No.Responsible ,sober minded ,discerning adults advice the abused to get away from the abuser!! We are talking about his controlling, manipulative, and abusive behavior. She needs to get as far away from him as she possibly can.

Also, if you were thinking of marrying someone, moved in with them, there is a relationship obligation to be a bit mature and face where you are as a couple. A lot of insecurity is being expressed, that leads to agression, and not reconciliation.

Im sorry but you arent making any sense here to me.

My advice to any couple is not to get married until they have spent 2 years getting to know the person. It is hard to fake your real personality over such an extended period. Rushing into sleeping with someone, and then marrying them in 6 months is asking for trouble.

I agree with you on this. They are living together as well. She has had a taste of how controlling and manipulative he really is. Besides the fact that he will put her in the poor house with his spending habits.



SOconfused needs contact with someone outside the relationship for advice and support.

Shes getting great advice here. This is a christian community. Good place to get prayer and support as well. I think her family is against her marrying this guy. They are her main support system.


To me the whole basis of the relationship is wrong, but the Lord can and does transform many situations that appear like this into something much better.

Well yes! The whole thing is messed up! The woman is being controlled and manipulated and verbally abused and God does not always transform but he provides a way out. They havent married so she needs to leave and get counciling as to why she chose this kind of man and keeps going back to him in the first place. She needs Christ. She needs to focus on Christ and start all over. If they were truly seeking Christ they wouldnt have moved in together in the first place. She needs to help herself now and be a present mom for her son!!
 
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Thanks for the support here. I am prepared to bolt out in the morning when he leaves. He thinks we are going out of town to be with my son for the weekend (that was a fight in of itself). But I'm just going to go.

It's hard...we were literally on the phone today (his pushing) w the wedding venue today. But I know that can't happen. My gut says it's wrong. It js just so painful to completely cut him out. But I think it's the only way at this point. I have left several times and he always gets me back.
You are doing the right thing. I pray you are leaning on Christ to give you strength. Doubt will come in but do not give in to it. You have a road to travel of recovery soconfused. Christ will renew your mind and heal your heart and a counselor will help you to get to the root of why you put yourself in these kind of situations. Just keep walking with one foot in front of the other. We are here for you. Keep in touch.

Just remember the definition to insanity is expecting change when you keep doing the same things.

Make tomorrow the mark of your first day changing your life for the better and forever!
Start this very minute seeking Christ . You cannot serve Christ and the world at the same time.

Deuteronomy 6:5
Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.


Blessings:)
 
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Being responsible we are talking here of insecurity, jealously, need and hurt.

No.Responsible ,sober minded ,discerning adults "advice the abused"
Thanks for the advice. You certainly do not hold back. There is a large difference between manipulation which we all do and abuse which is intimidation and violence. My experience of abused people is their low self worth and need for attention, drives them back to the one person who appears to provide it. It is important to create space and belief in oneself, whether that is with the partner or elsewhere. It is through this self belief and faith, freedom can be found.

Domination is based around need and removing in someones mind the ability to function somewhere else. Maybe you are unaware of the internal battle is 90% of the issue, no matter where you are.

I wish you well, and hope you are less dominating with your partner that you have been with me, lol.
 
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Thanks for the advice. You certainly do not hold back. There is a large difference between manipulation which we all do and abuse which is intimidation and violence. My experience of abused people is their low self worth and need for attention, drives them back to the one person who appears to provide it. It is important to create space and belief in oneself, whether that is with the partner or elsewhere. It is through this self belief and faith, freedom can be found.


Domination is based around need and removing in someones mind the ability to function somewhere else. Maybe you are unaware of the internal battle is 90% of the issue, no matter where you are.

I wish you well, and hope you are less dominating with your partner that you have been with me, lol.
Dominating? What the? smh...
This is a discussion forum.
I vehemently disagree with your TERRIBLE ADVICE!!
It has NOTHING to do with dominating but it sounds like you have some serious issues of your own.

Yes, I am aware of the internal battle and thats why I advised her to get some professional help!
 

Jeshuvan

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This one is easy,u r living in sin.God by know means put this relationship together.U need to run the other all the way back to the Lord and become strong with your child in him.God loves u,his word=bible to be strong in the Kord and the power of his might.If u get married to this person,it will only get worse.Run,Run,Run.to God.
 
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Mitspa

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Not an expert ..but this don't sound very good :(
 
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VioletReigns

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Thanks for the advice. You certainly do not hold back. There is a large difference between manipulation which we all do and abuse which is intimidation and violence. My experience of abused people is their low self worth and need for attention, drives them back to the one person who appears to provide it. It is important to create space and belief in oneself, whether that is with the partner or elsewhere. It is through this self belief and faith, freedom can be found.

Domination is based around need and removing in someones mind the ability to function somewhere else. Maybe you are unaware of the internal battle is 90% of the issue, no matter where you are.

I wish you well, and hope you are less dominating with your partner that you have been with me, lol.
You do not need to demean blondieindahouse to make a point. She is your sister in Christ and you should be more respectful of her. God says men are the stronger vessel and that means you should be a shield for women, not a stinging dart.

And another thing, you should NEVER encourage someone to work out a relationship when there is abuse involved. In most cases it escalates and the victim is harmed and sometimes murdered.

Everyone else on this thread realizes that this woman is in danger and needs to leave.