Home School vs. Public School

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Ariel82

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the difference is not if you home school or send your kids to public schools but if you as a parent spend the time to make sure that the children are actually learning and thinking for themselves. Just because you send your child to public school doesn't mean you don't still have a responsibility for their learning.

I see pro and cons to both methods of learning.

However I wonder what professions the teachers would chose to engage in if society actually allowed one parent to stay home and homeschool?

How do you interact with the parents of the students you teach that choose to send their kids to public school and entrust them to YOUR care in the classroom?
 
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tdrew777

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the difference is not if you home school or send your kids to public schools but if you as a parent spend the time to make sure that the children are actually learning and thinking for themselves. Just because you send your child to public school doesn't mean you don't still have a responsibility for their learning.

I see pro and cons to both methods of learning.

However I wonder what professions the teachers would chose to engage in if society actually allowed one parent to stay home and homeschool?

How do you interact with the parents of the students you teach that choose to send their kids to public school and entrust them to YOUR care in the classroom?
Society DOES allow one parent to stay home and care for the family. Many families have different economic needs/priorities. In fifties/sixties, one parent staying home was a sign of being "middle class". The poor could not and the rich did not want to.

I am a certified teacher, but no longer teach in public schools. When I did, I taught in the inner city - where most parents had limited options.
 

acesneverwin

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I was home schooled for a year and a half... Biggest mistake of my life. I will never advocate home schooling. It really depends on the parent but... I wouldn't advocate it. Just like I wouldn't advocate owning an anaconda. Anybody can buy one but you better know what you're getting in to. Otherwise you could be ignorant to emotional damage you're doing to the kid. And then when he's 25 you wonder why he killed himself. Not that home schooling did it but... Think of it like a butterfly effect on a timeline. Unless you really know what you're doing, the ripples started can turn into a tsunami in the future.
 
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I was home schooled for a year and a half... Biggest mistake of my life. I will never advocate home schooling. It really depends on the parent but... I wouldn't advocate it. Just like I wouldn't advocate owning an anaconda. Anybody can buy one but you better know what you're getting in to. Otherwise you could be ignorant to emotional damage you're doing to the kid. And then when he's 25 you wonder why he killed himself. Not that home schooling did it but... Think of it like a butterfly effect on a timeline. Unless you really know what you're doing, the ripples started can turn into a tsunami in the future.
What a ridiculous comparison, did you even think before posting that?
 
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BlessedLovedByGod

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I believe that each individual have their choice and specially needs. My brother was suppose to take home schooling before. But he decided to go to school. He says he wants to feel that his studying. For him the school environment is important.
For me Home based studying and working is a very good idea. Its nice to know that we have options. Everything is possible. :)
 

acesneverwin

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Sorry, I love snakes and its true. The point was so many buy anacondas not realizing how much of a job it is. They shouldn't be buying them. Likewise there are many parents who shouldn't be homeschooling their kids. And I speak from experience. And my friend who was homeschooled longer than I was will say the same. There are people who can buy and handle anacondas but that doesn't mean that just anyone should. Same for parents who want to homeschool. Not all of them should. I don't see what is wrong with that comparison... Too many think homeschool sounds great and dive in and turned out to be terrible or just not suited for it... And that can have consequences in the future whether they realize it or not.
 
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jinx

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I agree that if your going to do it, you better know what your doing or it will ruin that child's chance at an education. I knew a family that home schooled because some reason or another. The kids turned out dumb. couldn't write well, couldn't read well. Found out that the parents didn't really teach them anything, just gave them books, "here you go" kinda thing, and lied on the forms that says you have to have so many hours of schooling every day. They were a mess. Then I have this lady that really took home school to a different level. she was AWESOME!!! Those kids were smart, good manors, bright young kids.
So you really have to be dedicated and have the time and resources to do this, otherwise your only hurting your kids.
 
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TosinAsLeader

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The homeschooling isn't your problem. Its the moving, and your parents not providing socialization. Its only a disadvantage to not have friends when the parent doesn't take on the job of providing methods of socialization for the child, or when the parents goal is to prevent socialization on purpose. This may make your experience lesser, but its not a reflection of things done correctly.

Oh no it is, because for about 3 years I have lived in the same state and had no life. Sure I saw my old "friends," every once in a while, but I rather be able to socialize than be a hermit who depends on a church to communicate with people. Plus the 'homeschool groups' are a waste of time only to find that you cannot connect with someone with the same interests as you. My opinion is this, these kids aren't aloud to discovery what they like if it is not educational. What I said before still stands, if you don't think public school systems are a learning place, than switch! However, it doesn't mean that every kid that does go to public school does not learn. It can simply be the student wants to acted up, which is where the "responsible" parents comes in.
 
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Ariel82

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Personally I look at public school as a way to teach my children socialization skills. I could teach them the academic things and I do afterschool or in the summer or on the weekends if I believe my kids need to know the information. I like taking them on field trips and talking to them about various concepts they are learning in school.

My son typically goes beyond what is expected when given a science project. I think the blessing is having teachers who recognize the uniqueness within each child and fostering it. Helping children learn to work together and valuing others talents and ability to help each other learn and get along.

However even bad teachers can teach students to learn the material independently, and the parents can help show them methods to work with someone who doesn't understand or cater to your needs (their bosses sure won't in the future). How to be polite and diplomatic even if you don't agree with them. How to work in a group and get a task done despite the other personalities, etc.


For me school is reinforcement of values taught at home and a test to see if they have internalized the morals we try to impart by how they handle situations they are placed in at school.

My kids know there are different views about certain subjects and I tell him what the commonly accepted view is but at the same time discuss with him history and how certain views have changed when new information comes into the picture.

He is seven and I don't know how much he truly understand, but I think he knows that humanity is still learning about the world and God's creation. We know more than we did in the past just as he knows more than he did when he was his little sister's age, but there is still a lot to learn and discover.

I think as long as learning remains fun and the search for Truth is allowed to flourish, it doesn't matter if you homeschool or public school.

However there is more to learning than academics. there is the social aspect and the physical exercise/ sports part of schooling some people neglect.

I would advocate a change in the public high school curriculum to incorporate apprenticeships and hand on training in various fields but that would involve getting businessmen and women to allow such things.

I remember in high school spending time shadowing various health professionals to see if that would be a field I was interested in pursuing. Then being trained and actually working as a nurse Tech in the hospital my senior year was great and definitely would not have been available for free if I was homeschooled.

Besides my mom can't read English, so homeschooling wasn't even an option for me growing up.

I love education. lol :) I really don't care the method, just that people continue to learn. :)
 
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Fenner

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I like the school my children attend now. I'm afraid I'm not an organized person. I don't think I'd be the best at homeschooling. There is a nice non denominational Christian school I'm looking at for their later school years.
 
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HEstolemyheart

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I believe there is no "best way" for schooling in general, only what is best for a family or child.

My children will be home schooled, since I feel that is the way in which the Lord is leading us as a family.

My husband and I were both in public schools, both have high i.q.s and both were in honor courses through out school.

My husband excelled in "the system", he is self-motivated and does not easily get bored. He had no problem doing some of the "repetitive work" that you usually encounter in a lot of the P.S. systems. He tested easily. He enjoyed the social interactions while at school, because it was a reprieve from his crazy, chaotic, abusive home-life. His school system consisted of several schools ( about 75 separate elementary, middle and jr/sr high schools) with some 23, 000 students total enrolled in the system. He graduated with his senior class of about 250 seniors in 1999.

I was the total opposite. I am self-motivated and curious also, as long as I am learning. Once I have reached the point of "mastery", I become bored and easily distracted. I am also a fast learner (in most things) and so became a "problem child" in school. Simply because I was bored. Not only did my "permanent record" suffer for this, but also my grades. I had a very hard time doing the work because it was not stimulating enough for me. Most classes moved to slow for me, so I lost interest and didn't do the work or just skipped class all together. Also, in the one subject that I struggled with (later we found out I have dyscalculia aka "math dsylexia") they neither managed to discover or correct my "issue" until I was in high school. I graduated from a much smaller school, only about 1,500 students enrolled in our whole system ( which then was 3 schools, a pre-k/kindergarten, 1,2 and 3rd grades, and then 4-12th. Now it's just one combined school building) I graduated in 2007 with my senior class of about 38 students.

We all learn in different ways, most schools are usually set up to only teach in one way.

We are home schooling for a long list of reasons, though, not just the obvious "academia" reasons of it.
 
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tdrew777

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I agree with your post, but it should be more gender neutral. I'm a dad and I homeschool my daughter. My son will start homeschooling next school year. Thanks!
I am also a man. What do you mean "gender neutral"?
 
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FORHISGLORY

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The transgender law of California is now evidence that there's an all out attack on our children. People wake up ! Homosexuals won't stop at just same sex marriage. This world supports all the perverts and homosexuals. They want our children too ! Reprobates !
 
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answers

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I would love to meet a parent whose kids go to a brick and mortar school who does not have to still homeschool :)
 

Angela53510

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Maybe things are different in Canada, but I sent all my 4 children to public schools, where they received an excellent education, and all have post secondary degrees and careers in their field.

I am also a teacher, although I have been out of the professional because of disability, I always use my skills for teaching women or Bible studies or VBS. In fact, I don't think there can be more useful training than being a teacher.

Which brings me to my objection to homeschooling. Just too many parents who do not have the skills or understanding to teach, especially high school. I remember my daughter coming home time after time and telling me they had a "new" student and "he/she was home schooled". "How can you tell?" "Well, they are just so out of it, and they are so far behind in the curriculum and so socially inept. They are just ruined!"

Strong words from a very observant girl who is now a social worker. She said the lack of social skills is appalling in home schooled kids. They become the children who do not know how to make friends and are behind in the science and math at a high school because it was too difficult for the parents to teach. The children struggle academically.

One of my daughter's best friends was homeschooled till grade 10. She hated it so much that she threatened to kill herself if she was not allowed to go to school, and although very intelligent, struggled terribly, especially at the University level, where it took her 6 years to complete a 4 year degree because of having poor study skills and writing skills.

I think it is fine if you are educated to be a teacher. But unless your local school (Christian or public) is appalling, I do not think homeschooling is the way to go.
 
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I think home school is wonderful, if the parent is capable of handling it. Some wonderful people simply are not.

I know of a family of children whose life is ruined because the mother used the ruse of home schooling children because she was too lazy to get the children ready for school, and the state she lived in did not check on her children's grade level. Some of her children are living without the basic reading, writing skills, some went for training in these skills as an adult.

For the Christian who is capable, it does so many wonderful things. The celebration of Halloween is one tiny example. Home schooled children do not have to participate in the celebration of the occult if they see it that way. They do not have to be exposed to humanism instead of Christianity. They can stay with a concept until they understand it, for instance long division, and move on to something else as soon as they do. Home schooling is wonderful for children.
 
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overcomer2

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My children are home-schooled. I do believe they perform better in educational standards because of the amount of time they spend with adults and supervision. I will say that when I first started homeschooling the grandparents thought we were out to ruin our children so the first few years I had all eyes upon me. Anytime the devil wanted to get at me he would remind me of all the things they were saying. They're not getting socialized. So, one day I decided to keep track of their social life for one week on paper. Wow, what an eye opener. I decided after that we were way to busy. My kids were over socialized and we needed a little less social time. Every day they were surrounded by people, either through the home-school group, sports, neighbors, family, church activities etc.

I will say I have seen home-schoolers who are shy, introverted, and non communicative. I'm not sure but it may be a result of their parents, their surroundings and their personality.

I now have 2 in college, one a vet tech and one electrical degree on his 2nd degree of biblical counseling. Really they turn out fine. Love them, teach them and guide them your duty to your children.
 
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letti

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I would love to home school my kids.I don't think ,I'd be a good enough teacher, my physical health is distracting sometimes.I have one son with autism, that would also make it more difficult.