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wiltedflower

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Hi,
I think that if you are listening to what God is saying I think that you are on the right path. Going through my husband's drug addiction I would ask for proof and God would provide it but I would always say "I need solid proof" well I got my solid proof. I think God hates divorce but I also think that God understands our situations and when we are trying to do what is right I think God is there to protect us and keep us safe from harm/emotionally and physically. I am not saying God gives up on the husbands or wives that cheat but I really think that God understands or he wouldn't provide us the proof that we ask for.

But even then it is still hard to make the decision that God may be pulling you in.

I pray God gives you courage and strength. I know that God can provide those to you and I believe he has already and will continue to do so. I recently left my husband too and was like I need a divorce I am tried of everything, but I think God is trying to bring my husband to a place of desperation. I feel that right now I need to wait and stay separated to protect my children but not to get divorce just yet. I think time will tell. I just wanted to put that in there because I think that it is important to know that we are on God's time not our own, so the biggest key is to stay on track with God.

But I also wanted to say you are a bigger woman that I would ever be I don't think that I could ever go back to my husband if I found out he cheated on me. I know that God can restore but that is just a huge breach of trust it would be difficult to do that so I have to commend you for doing that.

I will be praying for you for strength and knowledge!
 
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pastac

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Hi,
I think that if you are listening to what God is saying I think that you are on the right path. Going through my husband's drug addiction I would ask for proof and God would provide it but I would always say "I need solid proof" well I got my solid proof. I think God hates divorce but I also think that God understands our situations and when we are trying to do what is right I think God is there to protect us and keep us safe from harm/emotionally and physically. I am not saying God gives up on the husbands or wives that cheat but I really think that God understands or he wouldn't provide us the proof that we ask for.

But even then it is still hard to make the decision that God may be pulling you in.

I pray God gives you courage and strength. I know that God can provide those to you and I believe he has already and will continue to do so. I recently left my husband too and was like I need a divorce I am tried of everything, but I think God is trying to bring my husband to a place of desperation. I feel that right now I need to wait and stay separated to protect my children but not to get divorce just yet. I think time will tell. I just wanted to put that in there because I think that it is important to know that we are on God's time not our own, so the biggest key is to stay on track with God.

But I also wanted to say you are a bigger woman that I would ever be I don't think that I could ever go back to my husband if I found out he cheated on me. I know that God can restore but that is just a huge breach of trust it would be difficult to do that so I have to commend you for doing that.

I will be praying for you for strength and knowledge!
Wiltedflower I agree with most of what you said and you have grown in your postings. You said something that I warn folks of even stating good things, You don't ever believe you could return to your husband if he cheated. He did cheat he had an affair with drugs.

Yet you are allowing God to move you in the direction you should go. Just remember wise words are very thoughtful as yours were but sometimes we put us in it and that lessens the impact that God is doing for us. So what you think you would do is not God it is then you. Your situation now is very similar to socermons with a few different aspects but in the same vein.

To you both know this God can and God will there is nothing he will not do for his children that is in his will for them. Here is a thought I'll share that I teach. God can often we cant but if we only remove the t we see something very different! The t looks like a cross so if we place everything on the cross and cover it under the blood there is nothing and I mean nothing that will stop us unless it is us.Just a thought.

Socermon your husband has and addiction and it is to sin. He has a spirit of lust and perversion upn him that causes him to cheat go after the root cause for his infidelity and get a book called strongman is his name by carol and jerry robenson it will aid you emmensly. There is a version one and two.
You gave beautiful heartfelt words from a real place and I respect that greatly
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Nightmairz

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acually seperate take time if cant be forgiven then divorce is ok..also you dont sik a lawyer on another Christian.council with pastor.not my words.look it up
 
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biscuit

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So please, you tell me where my sin lies.

When I say that there is two sides to every story I mean just that. Where did you make your mistake(s)?
I have stated a zillion times over a period of ten years on social media chat boards that "YOU MUST INVESTIGATE YOUR FUTURE SPOUSE'S PAST HISTORY."

A good, experienced investigator could have pull up tons of info on your husband's past for a few hundred dollars.

If you had taken the time to investigate your husband's credit & criminal history, it could have saved you a great deal of grief. I sympathized with you for your pain and grief but you need to acknowledge your mistakes & move on. I am not going to tell you what to do with your husband ... because "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MUST DO."

I can only pray for you to make the right decision this time.
 
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dave_in_KWC

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Answering a question like: "Should I leave my husband" with the above info & in a public Christian forum is dangerous at best. People can quote scripture and give you all sorts of advice, however such an issue is very complicated and requires a great deal of expertise and time to unravel (if it can be figured out). If your husband doesn't want to come to church and doesn't want counsel or accountability you may have your answer right there. Seek very experienced, Christian professional help, is my sincere suggestion. Do NOT try to solve this huge issue here or on your own!

No offense to anyone sharing... I understand that you are trying to be of help to her...
 
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soccermom19

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So please, you tell me where my sin lies.

When I say that there is two sides to every story I mean just that. Where did you make your mistake(s)?
I have stated a zillion times over a period of ten years on social media chat boards that "YOU MUST INVESTIGATE YOUR FUTURE SPOUSE'S PAST HISTORY."

A good, experienced investigator could have pull up tons of info on your husband's past for a few hundred dollars.

If you had taken the time to investigate your husband's credit & criminal history, it could have saved you a great deal of grief. I sympathized with you for your pain and grief but you need to acknowledge your mistakes & move on. I am not going to tell you what to do with your husband ... because "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MUST DO."

I can only pray for you to make the right decision this time.




You are correct to say that I did not hire an investigator before I got married. I am from a very small rural area. The closest investigator would be over an hour away. A good investigator would be over two hours away. Besides that, who requires a background and credit check before marriage? I would be offended if someone required that of me.
Marriage involves trust, bottom line. If you don't trust your significant other then you shouldn't be with them or even think about marriage.
My husband was not a criminal. He had unpaid debt, but I would have still married him had I known it beforehand. An investigation would not have revealed anything that would have saved me grief! It would have started my marriage without trust. I love my husband. It breaks my heart to separate from him, to know he must not love me as much as I love him, to know that I am probably embarking upon a life alone with my kids, at the age of 38. I meant my wedding vows and trusted that he did too.
So, according to you, my mistake was trusting my future spouse? Well, I don't think trusting people is a mistake, the people who violate other's trust are the ones who are making the mistake. If you don't trust anyone, why are you on this site? Don't you trust that what the Christians on this site say is well meaning? That the comments are meant to help and support other's? I joined this site because it helps me to vent my frustrations and heartache. Because I enjoy discussing scriptures. Because this is a place to vent without embarrassing my husband or myself, without making his shortcomings public knowledge to those who know us. Because I can offer support to others. I don't expect anything from you. I do not need your advice on what to do, I have already separated from my spouse. The decision has been made. Please don't pray that I will become untrusting because I think that being trusting is a virtue that more people should have, not a burden. My only other decision is to trust that The Lord will lead me and guide me in the ways of righteousness, which I do.
It sounds to me like you are a negative and untrusting person. Maybe life experience has made you this way? I will pray for you, because that is no way to go through life.
 
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gene77

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I'm keeping you in my prayers, soccermom19. I've never been married, and I can't imagine what you are going through. But, to me, you come across as a strong woman, and yes, at times things happen to us through no fault of ours. I pray that God will continue to give you and your kids the strength to go through this tough time, and I know that when you have no more strength to go through it, Jesus will pick you up and carry you through.

You have my prayers and my love.
 
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elShaddai_OMEGA

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When Jesus was questioned on how to react to the women who sinned by adultery he replied saying, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As humans we are weak. We are tempted by Satan every minute to the hour. And most often than not either knowingly or unknowingly we cave in to these temptations - cause the world is such that it presents us with offers that is mesmerizing to our soul, plays with our emotions and in the end - has the last laugh. [/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What man fails to realize that his life can end at anytime. So one who boasts about his societal status, or how good/bad they are fails to realize if one member of his body fails to function he goes down like a house of cards. [/FONT]

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]However, for the rest of us that abide by the law - we will be tempted to such extremes to test our faith. It's up to us the way we must choose that is pertinent upon God's wisdom. Marriage is one such journey - a roller coaster ride if you will.

Now in your situation, what I personally would do is weigh out the pros and cons and perhaps try talking to him. You'll need to find out the reason he is cheating. Why he is doing that? What lack is he finding in you that forces him to seek some one else? Is it just a thrill ride? Or does he give a valid reason?

Depending on how he react's you'll know what action to take.

Here's a useful resource you can refer to:
[/FONT]10 reasons why men leave their marriages
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soccermom19

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When Jesus was questioned on how to react to the women who sinned by adultery he replied saying, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

As humans we are weak. We are tempted by Satan every minute to the hour. And most often than not either knowingly or unknowingly we cave in to these temptations - cause the world is such that it presents us with offers that is mesmerizing to our soul, plays with our emotions and in the end - has the last laugh.

What man fails to realize that his life can end at anytime. So one who boasts about his societal status, or how good/bad they are fails to realize if one member of his body fails to function he goes down like a house of cards.

However, for the rest of us that abide by the law - we will be tempted to such extremes to test our faith. It's up to us the way we must choose that is pertinent upon God's wisdom. Marriage is one such journey - a roller coaster ride if you will.

Now in your situation, what I personally would do is weigh out the pros and cons and perhaps try talking to him. You'll need to find out the reason he is cheating. Why he is doing that? What lack is he finding in you that forces him to seek some one else? Is it just a thrill ride? Or does he give a valid reason?

Depending on how he react's you'll know what action to take.

Here's a useful resource you can refer to:
10 reasons why men leave their marriages
I have asked my husband why, many times. Each time that he answers it is the same: the excitement of someone else wanting him. He doesn't want to talk or discuss things. He wants to apologize then move on. I think he will continue in his actions unless he faces his sin and has repercussions from it. I talk to people on here because my husband will not have these conversations with me. He will listen, but will only comment a word or two here and there.
Thank you for your response.
 
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Mountainclimber

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Thanks this really helped me with my unfaithful wife...I am waiting for God to show me to divorce or not but like you said there is grounds but it is not demanded so essentially it is my choice...I think I just rather God make the choice for me because I don't want to regret my choice or hurt others. My wife is getting help again after her second infidelity in 2 years...she is mentally obsessed with an old boyfriend...co dependent or something. If she is sick mentally is it not her fault? And should I forgive and stand by her? I guess I am still looking for someone to make the hard choice for me...but it is my free will...ugh tough one...need to pray.
 
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I am a born again Christian. I believe that marriage should be till death do us part. Yet, after much prayer, I feel God is leading me toward separation or divorce. I am very conflicted. After the first time I discovered my husband's adultery, I prayed that God would help me through and let me know if I was not following what he would have me to do. After forgiving my husband, I prayed that if he ever strayed again that the Lord would let me know and I would know that was a sign to leave my husband. Well, my prayers were answered a year later, which was a few days ago. I discovered a bar receipt and a condom wrapper amongst the items my husband had emptied from his pockets about two weeks ago. It now seems clear that I should leave. So, why am I having such a hard time doing so? Why am I still unsure that it is the right thing? I don't want to question God.
I am not a confrontational person and my husband will not admit to this recent infidelity. Am I wrong? What should I do?
Please help. I need advice and support. We have been married for 17 years and have 3 children together.
I was just reading another post about someone else who can't break it up because of the child... but your concern doesn't seem to be about the kids being heart-broken. Maybe they're already "grown ups" and would understand... which is a real blessing.

So what to do? In my view, you should've leaved the very first time it happened. But you didn't, thank God you're more forgiving than I am. :) So; if you're wondering what to do next, I recommend you put your patience to test once again and see if you can find it in your heart to forgive again.

We all have our limits (configured in our hearts by God). If you feel like you've already reached them, then get out and don't look back.

I believe your major question is: "What is God's point of view?" Some people will go back to the Book of Laws to tell you what you must do... a little bit like a professional legal counselor would give you an informed advise in anything legal. Yet as you and I know, we're allowed to "break the law" in some occasions... and the Holy Spirit is the one to tell us when those moments are. And so, speaking from the heart (rather than the head); I suggest that when a woman's heart is about to be broken, and not any woman, a Princess of the King of Kings... that right there, is reason enough to break whatever rule there is and prevent the sacrilege from occurring.

I wish you all the best... and whatever you do (or don't do); please always remember that your Heavenly Father is and will always be by your side.
 
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Thanks this really helped me with my unfaithful wife...I am waiting for God to show me to divorce or not but like you said there is grounds but it is not demanded so essentially it is my choice...I think I just rather God make the choice for me because I don't want to regret my choice or hurt others. My wife is getting help again after her second infidelity in 2 years...she is mentally obsessed with an old boyfriend...co dependent or something. If she is sick mentally is it not her fault? And should I forgive and stand by her? I guess I am still looking for someone to make the hard choice for me...but it is my free will...ugh tough one...need to pray.
When it comes to men though (husbands), I usually tend to take a much harsher position and say:

"Lie down your heart for her to trample on the ground until there's nothing left but dust. We're called upon to bear our crosses, all the way until we enter the Kingdom of God. So drink from the cup, don't ask for it to be taken away from you because that is your ticket to freedom. When the day comes and you can no longer feel pain... transformed into a robot because of so much sufferings... when the day comes and you're simply emotionally neutral; incapable of feeling joy or pain; neither the positive nor the negative feelings; none... then you'll know the bliss of what it really means to walk on water."

So why do I do that? Speak different things when I'm talking to my brothers than when I'm talking to my sisters? I don't know really... I suppose that it's because I am a man myself; and that what I say to men is precisely what I did when I was going through similar circumstances... while blessing Heaven for having sent her my way, she who came into my life and became in a way the woman who gave birth to me for a 2nd time.

When Nicodemus asked Christ if one must return in his mother's womb in order to be born again, the Lord didn't reply... instead he said something like "You're a teacher of the law, yet you don't even understand these things."

Well, I had to find out myself how exactly that works. She changed me forever, and all along the journey of Purification (a.k.a the Baptism of Fire), I kept telling her: "I want you to listen to your heart, and do whatever it tells you to do... because I know the Spirit of the Lord is upon you, using you to take all impurities out of my corrupt mind, so that my long blinded eyes may recover their sight."

I always told her I loved her with all my heart... through it all, and now that it's long over, she always asks: "How could you?! How could you love me!" And what I say is: "You can't understand these things my love. They're for Grown-Ups in matters of Faith, and you are but a baby. My baby, and that's precisely how I want you to always: My Princess... for all eternity (seeing that we are immortals)."

Be brave my dear brother. Be brave, and be strong. Life is but a story, and we each decide what twists to incorporate in the overall plot in order to make it more entertaining for our audience. If the world can say: "We saw a man of God walk amongst us" like they did Elijah... by the time you leave this planet; then trust me, your story will have been a really entertaining one; both to men and God. :)
 

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I am a born again Christian. I believe that marriage should be till death do us part. Yet, after much prayer, I feel God is leading me toward separation or divorce. I am very conflicted. After the first time I discovered my husband's adultery, I prayed that God would help me through and let me know if I was not following what he would have me to do. After forgiving my husband, I prayed that if he ever strayed again that the Lord would let me know and I would know that was a sign to leave my husband. Well, my prayers were answered a year later, which was a few days ago. I discovered a bar receipt and a condom wrapper amongst the items my husband had emptied from his pockets about two weeks ago. It now seems clear that I should leave. So, why am I having such a hard time doing so? Why am I still unsure that it is the right thing? I don't want to question God.
I am not a confrontational person and my husband will not admit to this recent infidelity. Am I wrong? What should I do?
Please help. I need advice and support. We have been married for 17 years and have 3 children together.
My advice is to leave this despicable person.
 

DiscipleDave

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I am a born again Christian. I believe that marriage should be till death do us part. Yet, after much prayer, I feel God is leading me toward separation or divorce. I am very conflicted. After the first time I discovered my husband's adultery, I prayed that God would help me through and let me know if I was not following what he would have me to do. After forgiving my husband, I prayed that if he ever strayed again that the Lord would let me know and I would know that was a sign to leave my husband. Well, my prayers were answered a year later, which was a few days ago. I discovered a bar receipt and a condom wrapper amongst the items my husband had emptied from his pockets about two weeks ago. It now seems clear that I should leave. So, why am I having such a hard time doing so? Why am I still unsure that it is the right thing? I don't want to question God.
I am not a confrontational person and my husband will not admit to this recent infidelity. Am I wrong? What should I do?
Please help. I need advice and support. We have been married for 17 years and have 3 children together.
my question is this. Does he use condoms with you? If he does not use condoms with you, there is but only one reason he would have a condom on his person, that is he is planning or hoping to be able to use it. Now if you do use condoms then by finding a condom on his person is not the proof you need.

You have done well in asking for a specific sign from God, you do not do well when you doubt the very sign He gives you. If you do not use condoms with him, you need to divorce him, you have received a sign from God, it would be best if you believed it.

You say " It now seems clear that I should leave. So, why am I having such a hard time doing so? Why am I still unsure that it is the right thing?"

satan is the author of confusion, not God. You are thinking these things because you are scared. You know not what the future has for you, will you be alone? i know not what God has intended for you. But what if God wants you to get rid of this adulterer because Mr Right is around the corner and God wants to bless you by him? As long as you hold on to Mr Wrong, Mr Right will be out of the picture. Because no Mr Right will get involved with a married woman. What if God, on the other hand, wants you for Himself. Wants you to remain single and be concerned about His business and not that of a husbands business. So by staying with Mr Wrong how is God going to Bless that, when you are bucking against Him.
Oh how i would wish people would understand. There is only one thing important in this life, Where are you going to go for eternity? Married or unmarried, irrelevant. What is relevant is remaining in the will of God. And it seems to me, with you asking for the sign and getting it, if you do not believe the sign you are rebelling against God. He is trying to tell you to get rid of Him. a dog returning to his own vomit. Know that He has better plans for you.

All my life my dream of what i thought would make me happy, is to have a wife and kids, a white picket fence, and a fireplace. i have been married (10 years), and divorced. i have been celibate now over 6 years now, As long as i was seeking those things that i thought would make me happy, i was most miserable, but when i gave it all up for God, and stopped looking for those things to make me happy. Of a Truth, i am now more happier than i have ever been in my entire life. But it took me giving up my life, in order to let Him give me a life. As i have said. i have never been happier than i am right now.

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Dadzof2princesses

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Hello, I just posted a thread about how to survive infidelity. Also, seek counsel on how to pray. i haven't been a very religious person. in fact i thought, the spirit within me is what carries me through in life ... up to now.

Could you possibly share any insight on both finding God... and finding strength.
 
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kaylagrl

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I have avoided responding to this comment, but now I find myself needing to stand up for the truly innocent spouses out there who blame themselves. I once thought it must be something I did or didn't do. Now I understand that no matter what I did he would have broken our marriage vows and continued to do so.
Not that it is any of your business, but allow me to share my "fault" in this situation with you. We were married about three months when the collection calls started coming. My husband had mounds of debt from 3-4 years before that he had not been paying. I worked extra hours while attending college to pay these off. When we had been married for around a year, my husband was arrested for forging a check(he claims he didn't do it). My parents put up property to get him released and I supported him through it working extra hours while he completed his community service hours.
My husband joined the national guard and I supported him through multiple state duties and three deployments in Iraq. I took care of our three kids. I never cheated. I sent him packages and waited by the phone for his calls. I saved money to buy him a car. I forgave him when he went out on the town in NY city, while deployed, and spent so much money, on a hotel and alcohol, out of our account that the check I had written for a months worth of daycare for our kids bounced. I had no money, lived 9 hours away from family, had to wait two weeks to get paid, had to put gas in my car out of the lawn mower and gas jug to get to work, fed my kids what I had in the house, and borrowed money from a coworker for diapers. Luckily, I breast fed our 6 month old.
After finding out about a year long affair he had with my brothers wife, I forgave him and tried to work on our marriage. This was the first time that I EVER withheld sex from him for a while. After I found a condom wrapper, I went to marriage counseling and tried giving him the benefit of the doubt because he said he hadn't cheated. He didn't go to counseling. I quit being intimate with him when I asked him to leave two months ago, when on my birthday, I found out he had cheated on me again two weeks prior.
He quit going to church with me a few years after we were married.
So, other than being a blindly trusting and faithful wife, you tell me where my fault lies? It doesn't always take two.
I never once cheated. I never gave him a reason to doubt me. I was always with him or home with our kids. I gave up things I wanted to make sure he had what he wanted. God and family is my life. I spent my days teaching math to kids, at an alternative high school, who are in danger of not graduating. I came home, cooked, cleaned, carpooled, and spent my evenings with my husband when he was home. He works as a field tech who is on the road quite a bit. I help take care of his elderly parents, even now.
So, seriously does it ALWAYS take two? I am so tired of hearing that. So please, you tell me where my sin lies.

Please dont let peoples random comments upset you.You've done nothing wrong,committed no sin. I was about to blast that comment out of the water myself when I saw it. The "you made me do it" excuse is a cop out people use so they dont have to take the blame. If you're having marriage problems you dont go sleep with another woman to solve them! {The governor was a known philanderer throughout his marriage and many women complained he would grab at them btw}

To your problem with a cheating husband...You have been married for quite some time.You've shared a lot over the years,had children and were in love. I think you feel betrayed,hurt and used. But a woman doesnt give her heart easily,we tend to be deeper than men. Some men are the same way of course.We dont give up easily,we fight for our family,we want to believe in happy ever after and we do everything we can to make that possible.We put sooo much into our homes and families.Thats why its so hard when we feel like its all falling apart. Your husband should be there for you taking the burden,he should be wiping your tears,he should be a father and an example to his children. It must hurt that you dont have that support.I truly feel for you. Sometimes we are in love with who we want that person to be,or who they once were and we just cant let go,it hurts too much.But unless your husband changes his ways,unless he willing to go to counseling and be the man he should be you are only hurting yourself and your children in the long run. Maybe your letting go will wake him up and he may actually change. You have put everything into this marriage required of you and more.You are not to blame,not at all. I hope you will let go and let God. I know that sounds so easy to say,its so hard to do.I know many here are praying for you and I hope you feel that support.
 
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kaylagrl

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Jesus said you can divorce if you spouse cheats on you. You are free to go. But God still hates divorce and God will not lead you to something that he hates. He wants you to forgive your husband. God is also thinking of you children and wants them to have a mom and dad together. Satan want you separated the easier for him devour your children.
She can forgive her husband without living with him and being married to him.He broke the vows and she has Biblical right to leave him. He's not being a dad right now.He cares more about a certain body part then his children. Until he grows up and becomes a man she needs to take her leave.She's given him more than one chance. Satan has no authority to touch her children,they have a heavenly Father,who is always faithful and He will care for them in the absence of a real father!
 
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kaylagrl

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So please, you tell me where my sin lies.

When I say that there is two sides to every story I mean just that. Where did you make your mistake(s)?
I have stated a zillion times over a period of ten years on social media chat boards that "YOU MUST INVESTIGATE YOUR FUTURE SPOUSE'S PAST HISTORY."

A good, experienced investigator could have pull up tons of info on your husband's past for a few hundred dollars.

If you had taken the time to investigate your husband's credit & criminal history, it could have saved you a great deal of grief. I sympathized with you for your pain and grief but you need to acknowledge your mistakes & move on. I am not going to tell you what to do with your husband ... because "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MUST DO."

I can only pray for you to make the right decision this time.

Im sorry,I may be totally stupid here.Ive been married a year but we dated a long time and had a longer engagement.We were up front and honest with each other the way it should be.If I cant trust you enough to be straight with me and I have to search to find your "history" you aint the man for me! We told each other the truth and we didnt have to go digging for bones.If I found out my husband had a criminal past it would be "out the door,dont let the door hit ya...."you know the rest.That would not be MY mistake,it would be his issue,hes a lair AND an unfaithful husband.HE hid his past,HE lied and He cheated.You shouldn't have to track down the past of a Christian man.He ought to have been man enough to tell the truth.She didnt make a mistake,he's a lousy,lying,unfaithful jerk of a husband and no woman expects or deserves that.So lets stop trying to lay blame on this poor lady and put it where it belongs! Can we do that?!

ps. Once again soccer mom you did nothing wrong! Never mind the negative messages. Focus on you and your childrens needs.And be blessed.
 

Agricola

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Wonders if Kaylagrl has noticed that this was bumped from last year by Dadz