Am I doing the right thing? Toxic Mother In Law- Very long

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Sirk

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I can't thank you enough for that, Sirk! It is exactly what I needed to hear! I absolutely love this. Thank you!

Your welcome. Hope I helped. If I can just impart one thing to you that you take with you thru your life is to get good at processing and chasing after pain. I think that is how you will find joy, peace and connectedness to those around you.
 

tourist

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Tourist,
That’s an insulting reply.

You are apparently more concerned about a few lines of slight humor then you are with marketing the name of Jesus Christ for financial gain. Must be the nuts.
Here are some of my replies to members. You might find them to be sensitive. Also a sermon is included on the glory of God.
Please read it all.

To Yury,
I commend your effort in presenting your post.
First, eating meat or not eating meat is a matter of personal choice. Aside from boundaries established on the basis of love, 1 Corinthians 8, the eating of meat does not affect my salvation.
On the other hand, what I believe concerning Jesus does affect my soul.
Jesus was not just a good man.
Jesus was not just another prophet.
Jesus was not created in the imagination of man.
Jesus is not an emanation from God.
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.
Jesus is the Lamb, who takes away the sin of the world.
Jesus is the only man to be born of a virgin.
Jesus is the Lion of Judah.
Jesus is Lord and Savior.
Jesus is the only way to the Father.
Jesus is the Bread of Heaven.
Jesus is the Rock.
Jesus is the Great Physician.
Jesus is the King of kings and Lord of lords.
Jesus is the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega.
Jesus is the Firstborn from the dead, that in all things He might have preeminence.
Jesus is the Rose of Sharon, the Lily of the Valley, the Bright and Morning Star.
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
Jesus is One with the Father.
Jesus is the True Shepherd.
Jesus is the Chief Corner Stone.
Jesus is I Am.
Jesus is the Light.
The Word was God, and the Word became flesh, man. That man is Jesus.

To Princeoffear
Assuming you've contacted police ... carry a whistle and BEAR DETERRENT. My intention is not to needlessly stir up fear. The police cannot protect you as much as you need it, so you must "arm" yourself. Think about carrying something more formidable.
Change your daily schedule or routine. Ask a coworker to carpool to work with you. Inform any trusted tenet and ask for contact information in case of emergency. Carry your phone with you.
Also, the stalker is not just harassing you, he's stalking you, and many states now have strict laws against stalking. Don't misunderstand, harassment is aggressive, but the objective, legal term is stalking. Employ that term when talking with authorities.
He may have a criminal record, ask local police to assist with relaying that information to you.
In my city, the police make public the general areas of where past offenders live. Check with your police department.
When talking with police, ask for watch commander, speak to him or her. Write down name, rank, date, time, and statements. Then be consistent and constant in your reporting. Don't be intimidated by police, meaning, you are a tax payer. You pay for the service. If they speak to you condescendingly, sternly remind them, you have a legitimate fear. Work your way up chain of command.
My point is: take a more constructive proactive approach to this situation. Wake up your survival instincts, and use its energy and power to strengthen you.
Will pray

To TLaurich
The sun's light, or rays, pass through earth's atmosphere. It's not so much a matter of distance as it is the compression of atmosphere elements: humidity, temperature. This is not to suggest that if you were able to introduce those into your model that you could reproduce the consequences of the bend or curve of the light. Too many other variables to consider.
I like that you are willing to test or demonstrate how a curve appears in the rays. I couldn't. Don't have the patience.

To Fenner,
Your husband didn't say anything. He tells you to get her to stop. You need your husband to step up and assist. Your daughter needs to be taught. You and your husband should talk to her. Listen to her. And then set the standard. It's simple: Temper tantrums are not allowed. Period.
My child had one. And it was the last one. Done. Over. Sadly, you don't have support. In fact, your daughter plays on her daddy's unwillingness to step in.
Hope he will do his part. Hope your daughter gets the correct attention and guidance. If she doesn't, her behavior and attitude will only get worse.


What is the chief end of man?
Answer. Man's chief end is to glorify God, and to enjoy him for ever.

Here are two ends of life specified. 1. The glorifying of God. 2. The enjoying of God.
First. The glorifying of God, 1 Pet. 4:11. "That God in all things may be glorified." The glory of God is a silver thread which must run through all our actions. l Cor. 10:31. "Whether therefore ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God." Everything works to some end in things natural and artificial; now, man being a rational creature, must propose some end to himself, and that should be, that he may lift up God in the world. He had better lose his life than the end of his living. The great truth asserted is that the end of every man's living should be to glorify God. Glorifying God has respect to all the persons in the Trinity; it respects God the Father who gave us life; God the Son, who lost his life for us; and God the Holy Ghost, who produces a new life in us; we must bring glory to the whole Trinity.
When we speak of God's glory, the question will be moved, What are to understand by God's glory?
Answer. There is a twofold glory: 1. The glory that God has in himself, his intrinsic glory. Glory is essential to the Godhead, as light is to the sun: he is called the "God of glory." Acts 7:2. Glory is the sparkling of the Deity; it is so co-natural to the Godhead, that God cannot be God without it. The creature's honour is not essential to his being. A king is a man without his regal ornaments, when his crown and royal robes are taken away; but God's glory is such an essential part of his being, that he cannot be God without it. God's very life lies in his glory. This glory can receive no addition, because it is infinite; it is that which God is most tender of, and which he will not part with. Isa. 48:11, "My glory I will not give to another." God will give temporal blessings to his children, such as wisdom, riches, honour; he will give them spiritual blessings, he will give them grace, he will give them his love, he will give them heaven; but his essential glory he will not give to another. King Pharaoh parted with a ring off his finger to Joseph, and a gold chain, but he would not part with his throne. Gen. 41:40. "Only in the throne will I be greater than thou." So God will do much for his people; he will give them the inheritance; he will put some of Christ's glory, as mediator upon them; but his essential glory he will not part with; "in the throne he will be greater."
I don't have the time or inclination to read a wall of text.
 
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soccermom19

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CheyChey,

You and your husband should sit down with your mother in law and set your boundaries. Tell her exactly what is and is not acceptable.
Whenever you go over and she treats your daughter poorly, just calmly gather your husband and children and tell them it's time to leave. Then go home. Don't be mean, just don't put up with this treatment.
Tell her if she can't come to the bday party, then you can't come over to her house for a few weeks either. If she calls to harass you about it, calmly say, "I'm sorry you feel that way, but the decision has been made and is not open for discussion. Goodbye". Then hang up.
Can you tell that I have MIL issues of my own? LOL.
Standing up for your kids is one of the most important jobs a mother has.
Be kind, but firm. Much like you would treat a child.
Good luck and God Bless!
 
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Galahad

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It would have been better for you to remain silent rather than clearly showing your insensitive nature.
You are right. My replies show a lack of care. I should have been more thoughtful and considerate. Yes, silence would have been better. Thank you, Galahad.
 
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CheyChey

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Thank you for your kind reply soccermom19. I agree with letting her no our boundaries. Although it wasn't an actual sit down, but a few suggestions and a few over the phone as well as text message talk we have set them. Maybe an actual sit down would be more convincing. I like that. I have always been very kind to her as I wanted to be seen as a good daughter in law but I'm thinking that is the problem. Although I will never change who and believe in respecting my elders you might say lol, I think she sees my kindness as a weakness and continues to Push the hurt. If I am firm with her she mistakes it as me being someone not willing to negotiate. She then says things to my husband about me and trys to cause issues within our marriage.I guess I'm confused at what point to draw the line and say enough is enough. My daughter has already come to me and told me that her not coming to her party's hurts her feelings. She is also starting to see the favoristism. I just feel it's become toxic to my family after years of the same behavior and pleading with her to change these ways. I'm beginning to think it's just not worth it. I have a high risk pregnancy and i did my last pregnancy as well and for some reason that is when she always seems "strike". I've been teeter totting if loving her from a distance will just keep my family healthier, if you will. I just struggle with my main question. ..is it the right thing to do? With you having mother in law issues too I hope you can relate. I really do appreciate your advice. Best of luck with your mother in law! I know it's hard.
 
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CheyChey

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All is forgiven :) Like I said before, I'm a tough cookie until it comes to my children... Then I crumble. Lol. Again, sorry it was forever long (I felt this would be the place to come for help) Also, I am sorry it was poorly written. I'm on my phone and haven't quite figured it out yet. No hard feelings. Thanks for your apologies. :)
 

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Welcome young sister........family .....can't pick em......you have the grace and kindness people pray for.......cause if it was me.......it would be very hard to be Christ like.......I want you to know ....your daughter sounds like a sweet and loving child.......and that my dear is a reflection on you and your husband so anything different that is said.........is not the truth............this woman needs prayer....
she needs some training......but this has nothing to do with you....live in your bubble....surround
yourself with people who love you..........who love your children for who they are.....no child should
ever feel anything but freedom to be themselves........all very different ....and unique....your daughter
is a gift from God.....she is perfect ....just who she was meant to be....its narrow minded....and ignorance that says different.....do you want to know if God would be OK if you distance your self
from this woman....love her doesn't mean you have to include her in your daily life.....I would have distance my little family from anyone who causes us hurt.......ya can't change her......God can and
will......just ask Him and wait for her to come and ask forgiveness....and live your life and don't miss
a thing worring about anyone.......don't let them ruin one school thing....not one holiday.....God tells us.....don't let them steal your joy......I pray she catches up.....but until then.....love your little and
precious family......they are who matter......and God first..........peace.....jo
 
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CheyChey

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Jogoldie, I cherish your sweet words! They brought me to tears! Your kind words for my daughter filled my heart with joy. Thank you! Thank you so, so much for this. I am going to follow your advice and I will continue to pray for my mother in law as well. This has given me the comfort to sleep well tonight. Thank you for taking the time to read this as I know it was lengthy. You are a wonderful person!!! God bless you! <3
 

jogoldie

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Jogoldie, I cherish your sweet words! They brought me to tears! Your kind words for my daughter filled my heart with joy. Thank you! Thank you so, so much for this. I am going to follow your advice and I will continue to pray for my mother in law as well. This has given me the comfort to sleep well tonight. Thank you for taking the time to read this as I know it was lengthy. You are a wonderful person!!! God bless you! <3
Baby girl......everything is gonna be OK.....God is in control.....all you have to do is let Him.......
your words.....speak volumes for the love you have for your children......and that makes you a good mother.......no mother is perfect.....we have our doubts and fears.....but if we love them all we can....
show them the love of Christ......that's makes us the best moms.....and thats all that any of us can do.....what anyone says about us...that is judgemental.....or cruel.....should make us just feel sorry for them....because they have no love...or peace....and no clue.....the joy...and happiness
family should have ......and you have found it.....in your little home ....family is not blood...
family is people who encourage you....who believe that you can overcome life's obstacles.....
And help you succeed.....you will find that here....your family in Christ......my pm is open for you......
welcome to the family..........peace....jo
 

Fenner

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Thanks for taking the time to read all that BibleReader. I'm new to this site and realize it was written poorly. I will definitely take your advice. I feel it's the best thing to do as well. I'm just struggling with the distance thing. Praying I'm making the best descision for mt family. Much thanks!
Chey, I you're doing the right thing. We have to protect our kids and you're doing that. Her cousin sounds like a bully. I hope her parent's can control that before it gets worse. I wouldnt leave her alone with the cousin anymore. Best wishes to you.
 
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Galahad

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Hi, I am having an issue and am not sure if I am doing the right thing. I have been married to my sweet husband for almost 6 years. We have two beautiful daughters and another child on the way. Things with his mother were ok in the beginning. Although she was a bit overbearing at times, I could handle it. The real issue began shortly after our first daughter was born. About 5 months after she was born we began noticing that her eyes were not locating and following objects as they should. It was something that was very scary for me, a young mother only 18 at the time. I talked to my husband and it was something we agreed should be looked at ASAP and in the meantime we would not try to worry about it until it was time for her appointment. However, my mother in law would never let it go. She would bring it up every time we visited or anytime we would see her. We asked her to stop and just see her as the beautiful baby she was and let us handle everything. She never did. It began to hurt so much more the more we were reminded that she wasn't going to be looked at as a "normal child" by her own family...
Chey,
I read it. For now, I can't give advice to you. I am terribly, terribly sorry for what I wrote. Please believe me. I do care about people. I do. I have helped so many people.

Just know that I am so sorry to you and your daughter for my previous replies.

I will pray for all of you.

In reading your post, I find nothing in there that hints at you being a selfish person. Your actions are reasonable and are protective for your daughter. You are not alone in what you are experiencing.

I am crying deep in my heart. So very, very sorry.

Galahad.
 

AngelFrog

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Hi, I am having an issue and am not sure if I am doing the right thing.....
Firstly, smileys-hugs-227563.gif
It's late and I want to give your post the attention it deserves when I am not overly tired. I did read what would be a first paragraph and I will keep you in my prayers. smileys-praying-820668.gif I'll return tomorrow to read your full post and post in more detail then.

In fairness to others here, I have Firefox with the No Script add-on. If someone doesn't set NS to allow this forum, (or any discussion forum), when they write a post, or OP, no matter if they do use the proper grammar style, the NoScript Add-On will make it a wall of text.

Also, perhaps she was on a roll and letting the emotions flow as she typed. I think we should show her courtesy since she's arrived here asking advice.
And maybe a Moderator could be so kind as to go in and fix the wall of text for her? If it is too late for her to edit of her own accord?

Just a thought.

God Bless. And goodnight.
 

MarcR

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Hi, I am having an issue and am not sure if I am doing the right thing. I have been married to my sweet husband for almost 6 years. We have two beautiful daughters and another child on the way. Things with his mother were ok in the beginning. Although she was a bit overbearing at times, I could handle it. The real issue began shortly after our first daughter was born. About 5 months after she was born we began noticing that her eyes were not locating and following objects as they should. It was something that was very scary for me, a young mother only 18 at the time. I talked to my husband and it was something we agreed should be looked at ASAP and in the meantime we would not try to worry about it until it was time for her appointment. However, my mother in law would never let it go. She would bring it up every time we visited or anytime we would see her. We asked her to stop and just see her as the beautiful baby she was and let us handle everything. She never did. It began to hurt so much more the more we were reminded that she wasn't going to be looked at as a "normal child" by her own family. Weeks later it was finally time for the Opthamologist appointment where she was diagnosed with Optic Nerve Hypoplasia and Nystagmus leaving her blind with crossing motions in both eyes. My heart was broken. I cried and I cried a lot. My heart broke for everything I knew she would have difficulty doing and my heart broke even more when I remembered how my mother in law reacted to it in the first place. I didn't know how to tell her and I wasn't sure that I wanted to, atleast for the moment. My husband and I agreed to let some time pass so we could gain some strength and then tell her. In the meantime, my mother in law was already telling family and friends that she suspected something was wrong. Which hurt even worse when we found out while we were trying to heal. I felt betrayed. So I told my husband that I couldn't bring myself to tell her and if he wanted her to know, I asked that he would be the one to tell her. She never gave him the chance for him to come to her. She demanded to know "what was wrong with her granddaughter" and she had a right to know ASAP bc she " is her granddaughter". She never acknowledged how hard it was for us and how hurt we were. My husband told her and asked her not to tell anyone for the time being. Told her we needed some time and then we would be the ones to tell people. She confirmed to everyone what she had expected anyway. We had no Idea until we received messages telling us they were thinking of us. It was something that hurt knowing that my daughters vision was something to be talked about. I'm not even sure why she had to inform the people that she did. I was willing to tell close family, but as for her friends and people we have no relation with, I felt there was no relevance for them to be informed about the issue. It just hurt knowing that she was being talked about something not in her control other than the awesome and beautiful baby she was. I guess you can say it created a little distance between us bc my husband and I was a bit uneasy about going around her, fearing she would bring up the issue. It was something very difficult for me to talk about and I honestly couldn't talk about it without choking up or trying to hide my tears. The distance created issues for my mother in law. She blamed us for not being fair and for not treating her the same way we did with my mother. My mother never over stepped her boundaries. She never saw my daughters vision as an issue. She loved her anyway and trusted if I NEEDED to talk to her that I would. For the sake of having my daughter know her grandparents, I had to put my pain aside and be ready to fight back tears if the issue was brought up and we continued to visit them on a weekly basis. My husband was very firm with her about her not bringing up that topic anymore and asked for her to view our daughter as the normal child she is. He asked her to treat her as she would her other grandaugher (my sister in laws eldest daughter; mother in laws first grandchild). She agreed. However, she just couldn't. She would still bring the subject up sometimes which I learned to kind of just avoid the subject and direct it to a different topic. I was trying. I was trying to move froward. Then I started noticing my mother in law staring into my daughters eyes with a look of observation across her face. I tried to convince myself that she wasn't. I tried to look away when I saw this. But after every time we visited and every time she held her it just became more obvious to me. She wouldn't let her vision go and she wasn't looking at her as a normal child. How could she when she was staring at her in that manner. All I wanted was her to look at her and smile...hold her and laugh, to look at her the way she did with her other grand baby and to simply treat her as a normal child. It began to squeeze at my heart and hurt me even more. I am by no means a sensitive person. I don't want to gloat but I'd consider myself A tough cookie, but this is something I could be tough against. It crushed me and it crushed me the more I thought about it. I told my husband after much hesitation. I never wanted to be THAT daughter in law, THAT wife...the nagging one but how else would I stand up for my daughter. For something that dug so deeply into my heart. My husband thought things were going smoothly so it took him as a shock. I kind of think he didn't want to believe it. His mother was Christian woman herself and was hard for him to believe she was still hurting me by the odd looks and the "secret vision questions" she would sneak at me when no one was around. I understand she may have had questions but my husband was very clear on how hurtful it was for me to talk about. To me she was not being considerate of my feelings and putting her own wants first. I asked my husband to just watch her the next time my mother in law held our daughter. He did and he was very quick to also see it. He asked her to stop "observing" her and to just love her and look at her as a normal child like they discussed. She was insulted but agreed. It never really changed and I guess you can say that I started to shield my daughter. As she got older I started to fear that one day she will see what I see. My daughter is Legally blind but not totally. She has vision. And I feared she would see the staring and it would hurt her too. So again we distanced ourselves. Not totally but just enough where it wasn't happening once or twice a week. We would visit but no longer made it a priority. I enrolled my daughter in a program for children who had delays in certain areas. So my daughter had a physical and occupational therapist visit our home twice a week. We agreed not to mention this to my MIL as it would just be another topic that would make her not see her as she should. We asked that if she wanted to visit us then to please call first. She didn't like this idea and would still drop by unannounced and get upset with us when we asked her not to, again. Anyway, we kept our distance but maintained a relationship. My mother In law always made us feel bad for this, although we warned her we would have to do what we thought was best. She would tell others that I was controlling and that I was hurting my daughter by doing so. So again after feeling much guilt from her, we again started our weekly or more visits. I remember clearly, it was a few days before Easter and we visited to dye Easter eggs with my MIL and FIL. I saw her "observing" yet again but chose to ignore it the best I could and reminding myself that it's Easter and to just enjoy this. Soon after we got home we were informed that she indeed was observing our daughter and based on her observations she was determine that she "has no peripherals and can only see 6 inches away". Again it crushed me knowing that she couldn't even treat her like we asked even on a Holiday. It became clear that she never would. Time went on and as it did, my daughter has been referred to as her "disabled granddaughter" and has been continued to be talked about to her friends as well as looked at oddly by her. Then she started these behaviors where she would make it very difficult for me to get her to attend my daughters birthdays. She went on vacation the week of my daughters 1st birthday and told us she might not make it in time for her party. When she saw we were upset by this, she came to the party but was sour about the issue. The second birthday she failed to remind my FIL of my daughters bday and he almost missed it and we had to reschedule just so she could make it as well. Third birthday she missed it completely. 4th birthday, we had to reschedule her party so she would be there and my FIL missed it completely as well and the 5th birthday her and my SIL scheduled their birthday on her bday party so we went to my moms instead to celebrate and bc the time we had for her cake pickup, she had to sit at home and eat cake alone on her bday. She then was invited to my daughters preschool graduation (a school for visually impaired children) and it took a lot for me to ask her to come being all that we've been through with her vision. Two empty seats sat there waiting. They never showed up. Claimed she forgot. Then it was my youngest daughters 1st bday. She forgot that too. She always remembers her oldest granddaughters birthdays and school plays but doesn't care to remember our children. The favoritism is really disturbing to us. The oldest grandaughter, Lila, bullies my daughter. Once she smothered my daughter with a pillow and knocked her head into a wall. It left a large bump on her head. My daughter was crying but instead my MIl ran to her oldest grandaughter bc she too was crying for fear of getting in trouble. She comforted her instead. Lila has also poked crayons into my daughters eyes and when my daughter told my MIL, she ignored my daughter. I'm not even sure if she processed what my daughter said as she went on talking. My daughter has very sensitive eyes and when we visit to swim, Lila splashes my daughter in the eyes with water. After constantly asking her to stop my daughter began to cry and told her "nanny". My MIL literally told her to stop whining. My daughter did it back to Lila and Lila told my MIL and very sternly told my daughter "Jaid she told you to stop!" My MIL and niece spend a lot of time together as they live right across the yard from one another. She justifies her favoritism with that excuse. However I feel that's no reason to treat my children the way she does. My husband sees it too and is hurt as well. The more chances I give, it seems the worse we get hurt. One time I went to the park with my MIl and niece and as my daughter and niece were playing another child joined them. My daughter was about to go down the slide when Lila and took the little girl by the hand and took off running from my daughter. They hid behind our bench and I heard her tell the little girl "here hide, she cat see very well". My heart was crushed by this. My daughter had no idea what was going on. They were not playing hide and seek either. If my daughter new this happened it would have broken her heart bc she adores her cousin despite her mean actions towards her. That was the only time I have ever seen Lila get in trouble by my MIl but she was also very quick to justify Lila's actions. "She didn't mean that" she said. I understand kids can be mean, I get that but those words she spoke "she can't see very well" were my MIL's words through Lila. I've never informed Lila of my daughters vision. I never felt we had to, as every other child sees her as just another kid. Lila only acts this way when she's with my MIL. Lila is very obedient when she is with her own mother. It's the favoritism. There's been times that she has gardened and spent all day with Lila and when my daughter came to visit and present her a toy that she wanted her nanny to play with her with, my MIl told her she didn't want to play. My daughter looked like a lost and forgotten puppy. Her poppy had to play with her instead. All this has created more and more distance between our family and my MIL. My daughter is starting to see it and it breaks my heart. My MIL blames me for the distance. She says I'm controlling and that my husband is a "henpecked" boy for spending less time with her. She doesn't understand that, that's the way my husband feels too and that we make descisions together and it's not up to just me. I think it's easier for her to blame me. Just last Summer she became angry with me after I got upset over her missing all of my children's birthdays. I told my husband she was angry with me and although I know we shouldn't have, we read her messages. Again I know it was very wrong but it did confirm how she really felt about me. She said awful things about me. Said I had a "tormented soul" asked "what does my son live with on a daily basis" talked ill of my mother and the rest of my side of my family. Even found out that she was praying her husband to die. When she was confronted about it she tried to justify it and denied some of it. She always has a way of making us feel guilty though and always trying to do the right thing we continued to have a relationship with her. Things were fine until she wrote me 3 months in advance to tell me she was going on vacation the week after my daughters bday which was going to be the weekend we had my daughters bday. My grandfather passed away 2 Years ago and we always have his memorial the weekend of my daughters birthday. So after all the celebrations she missed last year we told her very clearly about my grandfathers memorial and how we plan on having my daughters birthday party the weekend after, but to keep both weekends available in case something changed. My husband told her, I told her. We were very clear. Yet she chose to take another vacation on my daughters birthday. When she sensed I was upset she said she would talk to my FIL and maybe she could change the date. She is the one treating him to the vacation, so she can chose when to go. Shes a school teacher and has months of vacation each summer so she can take her vacations whenever but somehow they always happen to fall on my daughters birthday; mid June. Like I said before,She always attends her oldest granddaughters birthdays and celebrations though. She always buys Lila things and while I don't care for materialistic things, the message is clear that she has a favorite. After all this we became weary with her behavior to our girls. She has caused me much stress and pain and yet I'm always the one to blame. How do I draw the line? My husband and I have both agreed that we definitely need to permantley distance the girls from her until she can change. We have told her this but she is very angry towards me for it. Again, she blames me. Am I doing the right thing? I know I am supposed to forgive and I have. I don't feel any hatred for her but definitely pain. I feel saddened by it. Can I forgive and love from a distance? Is that acceptable to Jesus? How do I protect and shield my children from someone who chooses to pick favorites and not see my daughter as a normal kid while doing the right thing? IS this the right thing to do? Please, any advice will be appreciated. I am at a loss. Thanks and God bless.
I suggest that if your husband's work will allow it, that you relocate as far from your mother in law as possible; and cut off most or all communication with her. Being your husband's mother does NOT entitle her to break confidences or be hurtful.
 
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CheyChey

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Update: I've attempted to make my very long text a bit easier to read. I hope this helps. Thanks

Hi, I am having an issue and am not sure if I am doing the right thing. I have been married to my sweet husband for almost 6 years. We have two beautiful daughters and another child on the way. Things with his mother were ok in the beginning. Although she was a bit overbearing at times, I could handle it.

The real issue began shortly after our first daughter was born. About 5 months after she was born we began noticing that her eyes were not locating and following objects as they should. It was something that was very scary for me, a young mother only 18 at the time. I talked to my husband and it was something we agreed should be looked at ASAP and in the meantime we would not try to worry about it until it was time for her appointment. However, my mother in law would never let it go.

She would bring it up every time we visited or anytime we would see her. We asked her to stop and just see her as the beautiful baby she was and let us handle everything. She never did. It began to hurt so much more the more we were reminded that she wasn't going to be looked at as a "normal child" by her own family.

Weeks later it was finally time for the Opthamologist appointment where she was diagnosed with Optic Nerve Hypoplasia and Nystagmus leaving her blind with crossing motions in both eyes. My heart was broken. I cried and I cried a lot. My heart broke for everything I knew she would have difficulty doing and my heart broke even more when I remembered how my mother in law reacted to it in the first place. I didn't know how to tell her and I wasn't sure that I wanted to, atleast for the moment. My husband and I agreed to let some time pass so we could gain some strength and then tell her.

In the meantime, my mother in law was already telling family and friends that she suspected something was wrong. Which hurt even worse when we found out while we were trying to heal. I felt betrayed. So I told my husband that I couldn't bring myself to tell her and if he wanted her to know, I asked that he would be the one to tell her. She never gave him the chance for him to come to her. She demanded to know "what was wrong with her granddaughter" and she had a right to know ASAP bc she " is her granddaughter". She never acknowledged how hard it was for us and how hurt we were.

My husband told her and asked her not to tell anyone for the time being. Told her we needed some time and then we would be the ones to tell people. She confirmed to everyone what she had expected anyway. We had no Idea until we received messages telling us they were thinking of us. It was something that hurt knowing that my daughters vision was something to be talked about. I'm not even sure why she had to inform the people that she did. I was willing to tell close family, but as for her friends and people we have no relation with, I felt there was no relevance for them to be informed about the issue. It just hurt knowing that she was being talked about something not in her control other than the awesome and beautiful baby she was.

I guess you can say it created a little distance between us bc my husband and I was a bit uneasy about going around her, fearing she would bring up the issue. It was something very difficult for me to talk about and I honestly couldn't talk about it without choking up or trying to hide my tears. The distance created issues for my mother in law. She blamed us for not being fair and for not treating her the same way we did with my mother. My mother never over stepped her boundaries. She never saw my daughters vision as an issue. She loved her anyway and trusted if I NEEDED to talk to her that I would.

For the sake of having my daughter know her grandparents, I had to put my pain aside and be ready to fight back tears if the issue was brought up and we continued to visit them on a weekly basis. My husband was very firm with her about her not bringing up that topic anymore and asked for her to view our daughter as the normal child she is. He asked her to treat her as she would her other grandaugher (my sister in laws eldest daughter; mother in laws first grandchild). She agreed. However, she just couldn't. She would still bring the subject up sometimes which I learned to kind of just avoid the subject and direct it to a different topic. I was trying. I was trying to move froward.

Then I started noticing my mother in law staring into my daughters eyes with a look of observation across her face. I tried to convince myself that she wasn't. I tried to look away when I saw this. But after every time we visited and every time she held her it just became more obvious to me. She wouldn't let her vision go and she wasn't looking at her as a normal child. How could she when she was staring at her in that manner? All I wanted was her to look at her and smile...hold her and laugh, to look at her the way she did with her other grand baby and to simply treat her as a normal child. It began to squeeze at my heart and hurt me even more. I am by no means a sensitive person. I don't want to gloat but I'd consider myself A tough cookie, but this is something I couldn't be tough against. It crushed me and it crushed me the more I thought about it.

I told my husband after much hesitation. I never wanted to be THAT daughter in law, THAT wife...the nagging one but how else would I stand up for my daughter. For something that dug so deeply into my heart. My husband thought things were going smoothly so it took him as a shock. I kind of think he didn't want to believe it. His mother was Christian woman herself and was hard for him to believe she was still hurting me by the odd looks and the "secret vision questions" she would sneak at me when no one was around. I understand she may have had questions but my husband was very clear on how hurtful it was for me to talk about. To me she was not being considerate of my feelings and putting her own wants first. I asked my husband to just watch her the next time my mother in law held our daughter. He did and he was very quick to also see it. He asked her to stop "observing" her and to just love her and look at her as a normal child like they discussed. She was insulted but agreed.

It never really changed and I guess you can say that I started to shield my daughter. As she got older I started to fear that one day she will see what I see. My daughter is Legally blind but not totally. She has vision. And I feared she would see the staring and it would hurt her too. So again we distanced ourselves. Not totally but just enough where it wasn't happening once or twice a week. We would visit but no longer made it a priority.

I enrolled my daughter in a program for children who had delays in certain areas. So my daughter had a physical and occupational therapist visit our home twice a week. We agreed not to mention this to my MIL as it would just be another topic that would make her not see her as she should. We asked that if she wanted to visit us then to please call first. She didn't like this idea and would still drop by unannounced and get upset with us when we asked her not to, again.
Anyway, we kept our distance but maintained a relationship. My mother In law always made us feel bad for this, although we warned her we would have to do what we thought was best. She would tell others that I was controlling and that I was hurting my daughter by doing so. So again after feeling much guilt from her, we again started our weekly or more visits.

I remember clearly, it was a few days before Easter and we visited to dye Easter eggs with my MIL and FIL. I saw her "observing" yet again but chose to ignore it the best I could and reminding myself that it's Easter and to just enjoy this. Soon after we got home we were informed that she indeed was observing our daughter and based on her observations she was determining that she "has no peripherals and can only see 6 inches away". Again it crushed me knowing that she couldn't even treat her like we asked even on a Holiday. It became clear that she never would. Time went on and as it did, my daughter has been referred to as her "disabled granddaughter" and has been continued to be talked about to her friends as well as looked at oddly by her.

Then she started these behaviors where she would make it very difficult for me to get her to attend my daughters birthdays. She went on vacation the week of my daughters 1st birthday and told us she might not make it in time for her party. When she saw we were upset by this, she came to the party but was sour about the issue. The second birthday she failed to remind my FIL of my daughters bday and he almost missed it and we had to reschedule just so she could make it as well. Third birthday, she missed it completely. 4th birthday, we had to reschedule her party so she would be there and my FIL missed it completely as well...and the 5th birthday her and my SIL scheduled her baby shower on the day of my daughters bday party, so we went to my moms instead to celebrate and bc of the time we had for her cake pickup, she had to sit at home and eat cake alone on her bday. She then was invited to my daughters preschool graduation (a school for visually impaired children) and it took a lot for me to ask her to come being all that we've been through with her vision. Two empty seats sat there waiting. They never showed up. Claimed she forgot. Then it was my youngest daughter's 1st bday. She forgot that too. She always remembers her oldest granddaughters birthdays and school plays but doesn't care to remember our children.

The favoritism is really disturbing to us. The oldest grandaughter, Lila, bullies my daughter. Once she smothered my daughter with a pillow and knocked her head into a wall. It left a large bump on her head. My daughter was crying but instead my MIl ran to her oldest grandaughter bc she too was crying for fear of getting in trouble. She comforted her instead. Lila has also poked crayons into my daughters eyes and when my daughter told my MIL, she ignored my daughter. I'm not even sure if she processed what my daughter said as she went on talking. My daughter has very sensitive eyes and when we visit to swim, Lila splashes my daughter in the eyes with water. After constantly asking her to stop my daughter began to cry and told her "nanny". My MIL literally told her to stop whining. My daughter did it back to Lila and Lila told my MIL and very sternly told my daughter "Jaid she told you to stop!"

My MIL and niece spend a lot of time together as they live right across the yard from one another. She justifies her favoritism with that excuse. However I feel that's no reason to treat my children the way she does. My husband sees it too and is hurt as well. The more chances I give, it seems the worse we get hurt. One time I went to the park with my MIl and niece and as my daughter and niece were playing another child joined them. My daughter was about to go down the slide when Lila took the little girl by the hand and took off running from my daughter. They hid behind our bench and I heard her tell the little girl "here hide, she can't see very well". My heart was crushed by this. My daughter had no idea what was going on. They were not playing hide and seek either. If my daughter new this happened it would have broken her heart bc she adores her cousin despite her mean actions towards her. That was the only time I have ever seen Lila get in trouble by my MIl but she was also very quick to justify Lila's actions. "She didn't mean that" she said. I understand kids can be mean, I get that, but those words she spoke "she can't see very well" were my MIL's words through Lila. I've never informed Lila of my daughters vision. I never felt we had to, as every other child sees her as just another kid. Lila only acts this way when she's with my MIL. Lila is very obedient when she is with her own mother. It's the favoritism.

There's been times that she has gardened and spent all day with Lila and when my daughter came to visit and present her a toy that she wanted her nanny to play with her with, my MIl told her she didn't want to play. My daughter looked like a lost and forgotten puppy. Her poppy had to play with her instead. All this has created more and more distance between our family and my MIL. My daughter is starting to see it and it breaks my heart. My MIL blames me for the distance. She says I'm controlling and that my husband is a "henpecked" boy for spending less time with her. She doesn't understand that that's the way my husband feels too and that we make descisions together and it's not up to just me. I think it's easier for her to blame me.

Just last Summer she became angry with me after I got upset over her missing all of my children's birthdays. I told my husband she was angry with me and although I know we shouldn't have, we read her messages. Again I know it was very wrong but it did confirm how she really felt about me. She said awful things about me. Said I had a "tormented soul" asked "what does my son live with on a daily basis" talked ill of my mother and the rest of my side of my family. Even found out that she was praying her own husband to die. When she was confronted about it she tried to justify it and denied some of it.

She always has a way of making us feel guilty though and with us always trying to do the right thing we continued to have a relationship with her. Things were fine until she wrote me 3 months in advance to tell me she was going on vacation the week after my daughters bday which was going to be the weekend we had my daughters bday. My grandfather passed away 2 Years ago and we always have his memorial the weekend of my daughters birthday. So after all the celebrations she missed last year we told her very clearly about my grandfathers memorial and how we plan on having my daughters birthday party the weekend after, but to keep both weekends available in case something changed. My husband told her, I told her. We were very clear. Yet she chose to take another vacation on my daughters birthday. When she sensed I was upset she said she would talk to my FIL and maybe she could change the date. She is the one treating him to the vacation, so she can choose when to go. Shes a school teacher and has months of vacation each summer so she can take her vacations whenever but somehow they always happen to fall on my daughters birthday; mid June. This was just another instance that she made us feel she was putting my daughter on the back burner. Like she wasn't a priority to her. Like I said before, She always attends her oldest granddaughters birthdays and celebrations though. She always buys Lila things and while I don't care for materialistic things, the message is clear that she has a favorite and she's not afraid to show that.

After all this we became weary with her behavior to our girls. She has caused me much stress and pain and yet I'm always the one to blame. How do I draw the line? My husband and I have both agreed that we definitely need to permantley distance the girls from her until she can change. We have told her this but she is very angry towards me for it. Again, she blames me. Am I doing the right thing? I know I am supposed to forgive and I have. I don't feel any hatred for her but definitely pain. I feel saddened by it. Can I forgive and love from a distance? Is that acceptable to Jesus? How do I protect and shield my children from someone who chooses to pick favorites and not see my daughter as a normal kid while doing the right thing? IS this the right thing to do? Please, any advice will be appreciated. I am at a loss. Thanks and God bless.
 
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CheyChey

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Thank you for your advice, MarcR. Sadly, we have thought about that idea. Unfortunately, we live near all my family as well and my grandparents are ill. We also just purchased our first home. I do agree with limiting our communication, atleast for me and our children. However, I've asked that my husband keep somewhat of a relationship with her because if something were to ever happen to her, I would not want him to live with the guilt of the "I should haves".
 
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CheyChey

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Thank you Angelfrog for your kind advice. It was too late for me to fix my text. I believe it said I could only within 5minutes. However, I did try to make it easier to read by posting a paragraph end version of it below. You were exactly right too :) I did only intend to write little but my emotions indeed took over. Lol.
 
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CheyChey

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Thank you Galahad! And PLEASE do not worry over this. I do believe you are a good person and help others, indeed! :) Thanks for your kind response as well.
 
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soccermom19

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Thank you for your kind reply soccermom19. I agree with letting her no our boundaries. Although it wasn't an actual sit down, but a few suggestions and a few over the phone as well as text message talk we have set them. Maybe an actual sit down would be more convincing. I like that. I have always been very kind to her as I wanted to be seen as a good daughter in law but I'm thinking that is the problem. Although I will never change who and believe in respecting my elders you might say lol, I think she sees my kindness as a weakness and continues to Push the hurt. If I am firm with her she mistakes it as me being someone not willing to negotiate. She then says things to my husband about me and trys to cause issues within our marriage.I guess I'm confused at what point to draw the line and say enough is enough. My daughter has already come to me and told me that her not coming to her party's hurts her feelings. She is also starting to see the favoristism. I just feel it's become toxic to my family after years of the same behavior and pleading with her to change these ways. I'm beginning to think it's just not worth it. I have a high risk pregnancy and i did my last pregnancy as well and for some reason that is when she always seems "strike". I've been teeter totting if loving her from a distance will just keep my family healthier, if you will. I just struggle with my main question. ..is it the right thing to do? With you having mother in law issues too I hope you can relate. I really do appreciate your advice. Best of luck with your mother in law! I know it's hard.
Anytime CheyChey. We DIL's and sisters in Christ have to stick together.
I try to respect my elders and turn the other cheek. And I teach my kids to do likewise. However, there finally comes such a point where you can take no more. Just try to have your discussion with her when the children are not around. Be kind, but firm and let her know how much she has hurt you and your children.
I have told my MIL these things before and things got better for a while. Now they are bad again. But, I have a lot on my plate right now and most of the time I choose to just leave when she starts her nonsense.
I hope I have helped. God Bless!