Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

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HeatherJones

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My husband of 9 years left me in Aug for another woman, we have 3 small kids together. Our divorce was final in Dec. God has me standing for my marriage. Jeremy doesn't want to try again or even talk about working it out. He knows he is going against Gods will and hurting our kids but doesn't care. We both made a lot of mistakes and his heart is so hard towards me. God has given me the promise that my marriage will be restored and my husbands heart will be changed in great ways, just dont know when. Its really hard to keep my heart soft and loving when everyday is full of rejection resentment and pain but it will be worth it for my family.

I am learning to rely on God daily but would still like to fellowship with other christian standers out there and pray for each other. If you could please pray for Jeremy to have a whole heart transformation, godly sorrow for his sinful ways, and for the Holy Spirit to speak to him many times a day to turn back to God and his marriage. Also for protection for my kids, Michael, Daniel, and Boo and for God to help heal their hurts over all this and help give them faith that God will make everything ok.

FYI I do not believe that God asks everyone to stand for every marriage. I believe God knows the furture and knows if your spouse will ever turn back to God and you, and only God knows that so you should take it up with Him :) Also God showed me this website when I started my stand that has been very helpful, if you are having marriage problems, seperated, divorced, or even have a prodigal kid out there you should check it out.
www.rejoiceministries.org/

For those out there that satan wants to use to descorage me or other standers with negative comments or your opinion on how wrong standing is please keep it to yourself. I know I am in God's will and just need support.

God Bless
Heather
 
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greatkraw

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Brave girl Heather.

Continue to be true to the relationship you have with your creator.

Don't be tempted to put God on a deadline. Pray for him every day.

Lord, totally demolish this other relationship and bring Jeremy to the end of his self.

Continue to sustain faithful Heather by your mysterious power.
 

seoulsearch

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HeatherJones,

I wish you the very best, and I certainly do not want to bring you down in any way and I have no intentions of being used by the devil if I can at all help it!

However, reality can hit very hard.

I only hope that you won't be as terribly hurt as I was in believing as well that God was going to restore my marriage. My husband left for someone else as well. My pastors assured me there was still a lot of hope and possibility of restoration for our marriage, and my husband did change his mind at least once and came back, but eventually left again. But because my church was praying for me and encouraged me to hang on, I clung to the hope that we would eventually get back together, even though things became worse and worse.

But I kept believing the divorce would never go through, and when it did, I kept thinking well, he'll change his mind, maybe he just needs time... or maybe in a few months, he'll come around... but the months turned into years. I always believed he would change and would have gladly taken him back.

He never spoke to me again after our court date.

It's been nearly 11 years later, and a few months ago, someone we both used to know found me on Facebook and told me he is now living in his dream location, has his dream career, is extremely happy, and is remarried with at least one child. It was like being stabbed through the heart... and then being shot a few times as well... while continuing to live.

I wish you the very best, and admire your courage. My only prayer for you is that if your husband does not change his mind, God will prepare you for whatever it takes to move one.

I don't like seeing anyone else go through the years of waiting that I did--I always wonder what my life could have been if I would have spent more time praying for God to heal me from the inside out rather than for praying that my husband would change his mind. But at the time, if God would have told me then what I needed in order to heal, I would have never gone through with it, because part of my process has been being alone, devoid of a romantic relationship, for about 7 years, and as things stand, that may continue for many more years, if not indefinitely.

I pray that whatever is ahead for you, your heart and soul will be completely restored, regardless of the time frame it may or may not take to restore your marriage.

God bless and please keep us posted so that we can continue to pray for you.
 
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living2love

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HeatherJones,

I wish you the very best, and I certainly do not want to bring you down in any way and I have no intentions of being used by the devil if I can at all help it!

However, reality can hit very hard.

I only hope that you won't be as terribly hurt as I was in believing as well that God was going to restore my marriage. My husband left for someone else as well. My pastors assured me there was still a lot of hope and possibility of restoration for our marriage, and my husband did change his mind at least once and came back, but eventually left again. But because my church was praying for me and encouraged me to hang on, I clung to the hope that we would eventually get back together, even though things became worse and worse.

But I kept believing the divorce would never go through, and when it did, I kept thinking well, he'll change his mind, maybe he just needs time... or maybe in a few months, he'll come around... but the months turned into years. I always believed he would change and would have gladly taken him back.

He never spoke to me again after our court date.

It's been nearly 11 years later, and a few months ago, someone we both used to know found me on Facebook and told me he is now living in his dream location, has his dream career, is extremely happy, and is remarried with at least one child. It was like being stabbed through the heart... and then being shot a few times as well... while continuing to live.

I wish you the very best, and admire your courage. My only prayer for you is that if your husband does not change his mind, God will prepare you for whatever it takes to move one.

I don't like seeing anyone else go through the years of waiting that I did--I always wonder what my life could have been if I would have spent more time praying for God to heal me from the inside out rather than for praying that my husband would change his mind. But at the time, if God would have told me then what I needed in order to heal, I would have never gone through with it, because part of my process has been being alone, devoid of a romantic relationship, for about 7 years, and as things stand, that may continue for many more years, if not indefinitely.

I pray that whatever is ahead for you, your heart and soul will be completely restored, regardless of the time frame it may or may not take to restore your marriage.

God bless and please keep us posted so that we can continue to pray for you.

soulsearcher

Let me start by saying after readering several replies by you, I wondered how such insight and knowledge could possiably come from someone of your age. Well now I know, (experiance) and the faith that God is in full control but to excepting the facts that all are answered prayers just sometimes we as carnal minds can't understand the ways that they have been answered. I do hope all those helpful people out there that keep us updated on our past downfalls will read this and realize "No we don't want to know how good or bad our PAST is doing!" I to went through a very lenghty and rough devorice but God answered over and over again, and is still in full control.

The ex moved directly in with her highschool sweetheart after our 14yr marriage, which she had been having an affair with for five years of our marriage. After three yrs now he calls ME to ask me to make her quit calling him, since he's put her out amonth ago. My reply? "Nauh you hang on to her." She to is calling me (after I've found a Angel of a christian lady) to say how sorry and ashamed she is for what she done. Mmmmm well not all are answered as fast or profound as mine has been, but when we lay it all out for our Lord he will solve the delimas.

Our Faith in these times is the rock that Paul speaks of in Eph. We must put on the armour and pray and EXCEPT the outcome. Not only would I not return to my past, but I have gave my life totaly to Christ and Praise him with each breath that he has delivered me from the life that I was in. Let me add to that two years ago while our preachers wife was singing a special at church, I bowed my head and asked the Lord to meet my needs of a wife preferably close to the same strong christian stance and morals as the Preachers wife. His answer to me was ("Be Pateint and trust that I will meet the need").

One year later our Preacher stood in front of our church and explained to us that he'd been engaged in an affair for two years and would be resigning our church. As all is sorted she stays and he leaves, and one year later we're talking (seriuosly) about our furture. Little did I know the very one I was asking hm to duplicate was the one he was to supply. I realize there is alot of questions and should be, but all of this testimony is only to say, Keep your Faith High and Head Low. Our Lord is in control. Thank you all for your open chat and all of the problems that we experiance have one divaden, Our Lord Will answer your prayers.
 
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OreoSoleil

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I found that site a few weeks back. This is an interesting time in my life as well. God has been teaching me so much, so I see His purpose is to bring me closer to him. God showed me something interesting last night through the stories of Jonah and Job --- through their trials God was dealing with their pride. Pride of thinking they could do it on their own. God is using this time to break us -- so I'll definitely be a prayer partner and scripture reminder with You. I know having more believers who just build our faith up and trust God -- it is the fight of faith.

I am in a different situation than you --but I am praying for my exes salvation --he doesn't know God and He is running. I am pregnant with his child -- after he made so many promises to us. I am at a point where I see God is in control and He knows the plans He has for us. I am hurt, but I also hurt for my child -- I will be forced to be seperated from my child-- for visitation days. I"ve been praying for God's mercy on us --my choices have brought us here. God had mercy on Job, Jonah, and David --- they were all fervently praying --for God's will and not their own.
 
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living2love

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OreoSoleil, I'm not really sure why it's soo had for us to understand and trust. But each and every time I have literlly hit my knees in a crying humble state God has answered my prayers in just days. I am not claimimng any special powers or even being any closer to the Lord than anyone else. But that in it's self has giving me a major testimony to those that question his power. lol
I have one a work that said , "I do belive in God just not all that magic mumbo jumbo". My question to him was simply ,"If I ask the Lord for 5 things to happen and those five happen what would you call it"? He Said Thats just circumstances. Then I said well what if I asked for 20 thing and all twenty were answered what would you call that......After a quit moment he said, "I'd say that was God." I never replyed, and just let him soak it all in. After two more days I lead John to the Lord. Give him the faith that he deserves!
 
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singleparent

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HeatherJones; I am also in the place your finding yourself right now and can feel your pain I marred a woman ninteen years younger than I and thought love would overcome all else I was wrong her mistakes my mistakes well iv learned one truth God is the real power in our lives and doing it on our own is foolhardy? Keep the faith we all will be praying for restoration of your marriage in turn please pray for my own God bless and keep you.David
 
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living2love

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I too will be praying for ya David.....Just please....hit your knees at each chance you get.
 
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HeatherJones

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Thank you everyone for your prayers and support. I will pray for all of you too. I know I have a hard time letting go and letting God. I see the truth so clearly now that I just want to smack my husband on the back of the head and tell him to do it lol But I do know that God is working on getting him to a place in his life where he will listen and have a whole heart transformation, not just marriage restoration and if I keep butting in then I could block God and His many blessings he has for us in the furture. Its just hard seeing the promises God has given me and knowing how great things will be when we are both serving the Lord but stuck here waiting for him LOL But you dont want to pull the turkey out early just because your hungry and end up with raw uneadible turkey, so all in God's perfect timing.

God Bless everyone
Heather
 
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singleparent

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You know HeatherJones just this afternoon my wife asked me to sign the divorce papers she said we simply do not connect anymore I don't see it that way I have never stopped loving her and that as I am sure you know make's it all the harder.I just wish she could see my heart for what it is then just maybe she could stop and think about what is about to happen.We both have little girls her's is now nine I raised her since she was one myn is twelve she has raised her since she was three.I know and allway's have loved that little girl since we first met like you a part of me is in limbo right now if it were'nt for the power of our Lord I don't know really were I would be so hang in there if you ever need someone to talk to I am here and so are so many outher's,it seems in these times even in our circle Christans that is divorce is a dark dark shadow which seems to linger over so many of us untill I found this site I would never have be-leaved it would you have?Look to him as you have been as I am in his time not ours as you have said.Love in Christ
DAVID
 
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singleparent

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Living2Love hitting my knees nightly my brother I am at that thank you for your support.
 
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HeatherJones

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Thanks David,
Up until now i have been going it alone, just me and JC lol. I know I needed that so I could learn to lean on Christ not those around me. At first it was really hard because my family seemed to understand the depressed bitter resentful me but once Christ changed my heart and turned my core emotion into love, even towards the man that not only the world but the church says I should hate, I hit some big walls. But the more my friends and family see the changes in me the more they know it has to be a God thing and are trying to get behind me.

The bad news about your wife, and I had to figure this out about my husband, is that it has nothing to do with you, how much you love them, or any changes you make. It is all about them and only God and the Holy Spirit can make a change in them. Granted the more loving and better you are the faster He will be able to work but none of it depends on you, only your prayers. The good news is that it is in Gods hands and He will take care of it. Not when we want it done but in His perfect timing. Like the Christmas turkey, you cant pull it out early just because you are hungry, you will end up with a raw uneadible bird or really sick LOL You have to wait for God to say the time is ready for your spouse to be changed. That is when our hard work starts, living with them daily, showing them Gods unconditional love, and most of all making sure we keep christ in the number one slot, not fill it back up with us or our spouses, that is a sure way to lose it all again.

The one thing that I fight with the most about all this is my resentment for what he is doing to our kids. His parents divorced when he was 12 and it really screwed him up. He swore he would never do that to our kids. It was easier letting go of the anger over the 18 year old he left me for than how he is hurting them. That is a daily struggle that I will be praying about for years to come.

Oh and that rejoiceministries.org has a daily email devotional that God has used to lift my spirits or give me something I need to pray about over and over. It has been a great blessing in my stand and all standers should sign up for it. Thanks again for prayers and suport everyone.
God Bless
Heather
 
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LeapsofFaith

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Together, with God's help, WE CAN DO THIS!

I'm a stander, too, and since my situation is pretty unique, there's tons of people--even "strong Christians" who won't believe that God has spoken so clearly to me about the restoration of my relationship. Sometimes they're the worst--trying to assert that since a problem or challenge exists, it must not be "meant to be" and therefore I should give up and be "comforted" that "God has something better planned for you." Pishaw! If that's the case, nothing is "meant to be" because there isn't any situation where 2 or more people are involved where some challenge doesn't come up. Including churches. Christ faced challenges left and right--did He conclude His mission wasn't "meant to be"? No! That's NOT faith at all, so DON'T listen to them. Does it never occur to these peole that the "better" God has in mind could be a restored--stronger--relationship? Ay ay ay. Well I for one am with you, Heather. One of the greatest comforts I received was coming to realize that it's not me, personally (or you), that's being attacked as if I had it coming or something, but rather it's MARRIAGE that's under Satan's attack all over the world right now. We must band together and assert that Satan won't get so much as an inch! If for nothing more than the principle of it all! Let "Not an inch!" be your battle cry, too.

Two weeks ago I was worn out in my stand, and further crushed to learn that a prodigal's return isn't as much of a clean start as I had hoped. To me, the assertion that our marriage would be at risk forever and I'd have to stand forever (even after his return) seemed to indicate that the Lord's reconciliation work wasn't perfect enough to hold up over time. This troubled me greatly. But, I went directly to the Lord to ask about it, and while He didn't explain He did give me the booster I really needed: "I died of a broken heart so you never will." I was so deeply heartened by that, and my faith was so strengthened by that, I immediately went out and had a pendant engraved with the Lord's words so I'd never forget.

Just earlier this week I was overwhelmed by the beauty of God being a hopeless romantic who is obsessed with covenant and lasting marriage to His Bride, and that He and I shared the same desires, so I asked Him, "Lord, every week I read about other standers who get periodic contact from their prodigals to let them see You're working and to know they're being thought about. If You're no respecter of persons, why am I totally shut out? Why can't I get something?" Then, contemplating my readiness for such a thing, I added--"Email would be best." I kid you not, the NEXT DAY I received an email from my prodigal who for years has refused to communicate by email. It was disappointingly brief, but I took it as a wink from God moreso than anything else.

Chin up, Heather. As long as you want what God wants, it cannot fail.


p.s. Know where I can find a forum for standers on international/intercultural relationships? It's a whole different ball game, and I'd really appreciate others who "get it."
 
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eric1963

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My 18 year marriage ended recently as she also moved right in with her lover taking our 13 yr old daughter with her. My 17 yr old son wouldn't go with her so he lives with me. I tried very hard to keep in touch with her, proclaiming my love but to no avail. This was my first Christmas alone as my son is with her today and not sure when he will be returning home. It has been a very hard day to deal with. All the memories and broken dreams and promises. I have prayed many times today to get through this day, trying to stay focusd on the meaning of today. It has been dificult and I must say satan has put some disturbing thoughts in my head. I believe with His guidance I will continue on and as my sweet daughter said to me yesturday, "everything is for a purpose" out of the mouth of babes. I understand this is diffinately the time to be strong and continue on. My marriage may be over but that doesn't maen all is lost. You are in my prayers and remember that there is a reason for everything wether we understand it or not. God loves us and with His strength we can do anything.
 
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LeapsofFaith

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I recently wrote this as a response to another stander's message, and received such insight from the Lord while writing it that I simply couldn't hold it back from everyone who is going through this experience. I hope the original recipient will forgive me for publicizing, for the sake of all us benefitting.



I can completely feel your heart through your message; I send you an *e-hug*.

I've been standing for about 6.5 years now (admittedly, I didn't even know what that was the first few years), and while I haven't yet experienced the elation of my prodigal's return to be able to truly share that experience with you, in a way I'm grateful that the Lord (via RMM, this chat room) clued me in on the realities of return first so I wouldn't be as shocked and crushed by a secondary leave as you've been dealing with. (You're not alone; the community of Standers will help hold you up.) Because it almost took my very life the first time (before I found RMM), so I know it would have truly taken me down the second time. When I first learned about that likelihood from Charlyne's daily email message, I was so horribly disappointed and even disillusioned; how is God perfect if His work is so easily falliable? Not lasting? If God knows how badly that can hurt us, why doesn't He wait until it really is finished? I don't entirely understand all the details of His reasoning yet, but I've only just recently come to understand the bigger picture of why He does it this way. The witness to others (such as the family members you mentioned) is one part, and our own growth is another part. But there's more! Hopefully I can explain it clearly enough in this post that you'll be able to share my excitement and gratitude to God. It's very much an "Oooooooooh, NOW I get it!!" moment.


Let me try to break it down into segments:


1) If you feel like the family that came to God then turned away is even partially a failure on your part to be a good representative or advertisement for God's trustworthiness, like your particular marriage/stand was an unfortunately poor example pulled out of the hat, you must know God is more than capable of managing His own reputation. See Ezekiel 39:25 "I jealously guard my holy reputation!" and Isaiah 48:11 "I will not let my reputation be tarnished." While He does care how we represent Him, He is not solely dependent upon us for His reputation. Afterall, others can't give you a bad reputation if your actions don't corroborate, right? Reputations can be impacted by others but not created by them, becasue they are inherently a personal creation. That means, just like you, God has to create His own reputation. So please don't put too much responsibility upon yourself. You HAVE been a great representative, and that's why those family members noticed! You were the John-the-Baptist figure announcing prior to the arrival of God's provision, right? You prepared the way. But it was not your job to be the Messiah. And even John questioned the turn of events later on, from his own prison, remember? "Are you it or should we look for another?" Things did not go the way anybody expected, but that doesn't mean God's plan was wrong. Their perspective was simply too limited in scope; they thought the story ended when Christ died.


Clearly, it didn't.


Your prodigal's weakness may have dinged God's reputation a bit in their eyes, but remember that God had a reputation for thousands of recorded years prior to that! If you hold up His written record to them (it will also be good for your faith), they will not be able to deny that the tides of battles may go to and fro, but when the war finally ends God has always decisively won! They may not right now, so you go through scripture and make a list of God's promises and deliveries, much like the way a baseball player's stats get listed for an overall batting average to be calculated. Then show them your list! "THIS is God's reputation. The battle for my marriage may not be in my favor in the moment, but the war for Godly marriage across the world is far from over! I'm not quitting when we still have soldiers on the field." Then, if you still need a little more punch, finish with one of my favorite quotes: "The Christian ideal has not been tried and found lacking, it has been found difficult and left untried." (G.K. Chesterton)


Za-Zing!!


Improving your own reputation as a victorious believer, and representing His better in the process, is the subject of the next section.


2) I'm sure you're familiar with the "your own growth" part of God's purpose at this time, and if you're like me you probably have an Eyore-ic "yeah yeah" reaction because if you're not the one who screwed up the marriage, it will never feel fair that you have to do as much fixing of self. So maybe if I add a little more info to clarify the self-growth part, it would help make it more desireable for you. (And quick parenthetical here, remember that from here forward throughout eternity we're supposed to be working on our personal relationship with Christ anyway, so this personal growth into His image is never supposed to end even when are marriages are fixed. Most of us have to reprogram our mental expectations of life because we were reared to think once you achieved something in life it would always stay that way. Nothing does. Nothing. Whether things change because they're dying or they change because they're growing, nothing just cruises through eternity unchanged. There is no plateau of maintaining the status quo. That is a big fat lie we all have to gouge out of our minds and hearts. Furthermore, the motivation to find such a fantasy is ultimately laziness, is it not? Avoiding more work? Well life (with God) isn't supposed to be so hard in the first place, so if we get THAT fixed making a little effort won't seem so objectionable. All efforts will be made toward going forward, not just keeping up. The truth is we will be striving towards growth in Christ every day from here to forever. Once we each accept that as our Christian lifestyle, the rest gets easier to accept because it natually follows as a-part-of life, not in-addition-to our otherwise normal life.)


Okay, so back to the growth part you might actually want to do. In your message I feel your heart aching over why your husband left a second time, and your mind returning to comparisons of yourself to the other woman flabberghasted why she is even the least bit tempting to him. I have days like that, too. WHICH MEANS if you're not the only one thinking it, it cannot be about your loveability. Right? You don't know me, your husband's choices have nothing to do with my prodigal's choices, right? Our lives are separate. SO, the fact that we're experiencing the same symptoms means we're being attacked by the same thing. It's no different than calling a neighbor to ask if their power is out, too, or if it's just your house. If the whole neighborhood is without power, then you don't think there's anything wrong with your house, do you? Same thing here. We're all stumbling in the dark right now in our relationships because Satan has identified weak spots in our power grids and sabotaged us, taking away our power. We have to learn how to get it back and fortify better so it won't happen again. Perhaps you have a fence to protect your physical house, but do you maintain a spiritual fence to protect your spiritual household? In my own personal/ministerial journey I'm learning more about spiritual warfare--and WOW, is it fascinating! For decades I've lived so thoroughly frustrated and fed up that in today's corrupt world, good people can't seem to win. Even if you're super smart, talented, energetic, hard-working, logical, whatever--it's never enough to out-do the corrupt people who always seem to hold all the power. And, as we've both experienced, no matter what we say or how we plead, no matter how much sense it makes for our prodigals to stay with us, they got pulled away. Well, if we're going to operate solely in the world's system those are our only choices. But if we choose to operate in the Kingdom system, we have more--and better!--choices. Including using faith and proclamation of the Word as very powerful weapons. From a worldly point of view it sounds too easy to be effective, but from a Kingdom point of view it makes total sense. After all, God created the Earth and everything else by speaking, not by sweaty labor or logical arguements.


When you start looking at your scripture with the "reading glasses" of physical realm AND spiritual realm, you'll start to notice a lot of things you probably glossed over before (like I did). Like the way the Israelite army took Jericho by marching around it, then shouting; or Elijah opening the eyes of his servant to see the chariots of fire before the battle, or the way Daniel helped pray the Israelites out of Babylonian captivity--and when the archangel Michael showed up, they got decisive victory. These battles were not won in the physical, by typical actions. (I mean, really: shouting at a wall? That's ridiculous.) They were won in the spiritual realm, by acts of faith on the part of people and response to that faith on the part of God and angels. Again with Jesus and healing or dead-raising miracles; how many times did He say a person was healed or a thing was done because of the asker's faith? And finally in Paul's letters, where he tells us straight out that our warfare is not against other people but against the powers of darkness, and that we have armour and weapons given to us for that purpose. Most Christians, myself included, have weak spots in our grids because we are either ignorant of what's going on in the spiritual realm (God said, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!") or we choose to ignore it because we don't want to believe the scripture and therefore take on the responsibility of acting accordingly. Paul told us, and Jesus told us, that we would have to fight in this life but that we were given the advantage and the assurance of victory. (Ever wonder why such a big portion of the O.T. is a seemingly never-ending narrative of wars? It just seems like boring history until you realize God put that in our Handbook of Life to help us fight our own battles!)


"Standing" doesn't mean simply "outlasting." And as one of my favorite teachers recently taught, "patience" does not mean "putting up with." So when you hear people say one of God's reasons for making us go through this is for our own personal growth, it doesn't just mean that we come to appreciate God more or go to church more often. It isn't just a test to see how long we can tolerate the grief and pain. I mean, yes attendance and stamina is growth but it's not enough to warrant all this suffering, is it? A loving Father wouldn't make us go through all THIS just for that. If He deems this much agony worthwhile, the "prize" of personal growth oughtta be HUGE. And it is! It IS!! "Standing" is short for "fighting a battle and being the last one standing." (Draw a picture to remind yourself: draw a soldier standing in the middle of the battlefield, the bodies of dead opponents lying all around. S/He may be injured and wearied, but the last one standing and therefore the winner. War isn't a game; you don't play until the clock runs out. War has always, and will always, be fought till the death.) For us to be Standers, we have to go through some fighting and be the last ones standing. Not fighting with our prodigals but against the Dark Forces who snatched them away as prisoners of war. Our prodigals were snatched! They are prisoners! Do you blame a soldier for being taken prisoner or do you go in after him? I am NOT going to let the Enemy take my man from me! Ooooh No! But I AM going to fight dirty by being as sneaky and under-the-radar as I can be. (And realize this: fighting spriritual war can be dangerous but we are less likely to break a nail than in physical warfare. So when we win, we still have a shot at looking our best. And that does matter to us, doesn't it?)


To be victorious in any war you need to know about your Enemy so you can plan a good battle strategy. You also need to account for which armor and weapons you have at your disposal so you know what your options are. You have to consider where your enemy may be stronger than you, both your offensive strength and defensive strength. You have to use the right tactics at the right times to maximize their impact, you may need other people's help to man multiple fronts at once or to utilize their strengths you don't have. Maybe one of you is like the airforce and another the army, or a third the navy. And you have to be well-organized so you don't shoot yourself in the foot or each other. These principles apply to any war in any realm, which means you can (and I think should) apply them to the War on Marriage to accelerate and improve your victory. Yes, we are waiting on God to do a good work in the hearts and lives of our prodigals and bring them home. But we are not helpless bystanders! We are Rosie the Riveter! We commit to the War Effort, too, at the home front! Like Jericho and all the stories of the O.T., God is your Commander in Chief so you must obey His orders on when, where, and how to fight. He's the only one with wide enough perspective to see beyond the mountains of space and time to make truly wise battle plans.


Initially I was just so relieved and excited to learn there was another and better way to fight than all the tactics I used to try, but here's why I got really excited and hope you will, too: once you learn how to be a valiant soldier in the War on Marriage, you're equipped to apply that skill to any battle on any front at any time in your whole life! In fact, when you get good at occupying and holding ground in your own life and household, you can start to fight for others, too! Like a superhero, you can help others in need. THIS is why God is allowing us to go through this agonizing period in our lives instead of just zapping Satan and getting it over with. Your personal growth is not about mere church attendance or learning to be the best wife you can be. That's not a God-sized idea. God wants you to "be ALL that you can be" by joining His army! You've been hand selected into His exclusive Special Forces to help bring about His Kingdom rule over all the earth and make His reputation as shining as it could possibly be! Don't you see, your marriage problems aren't ruining His reputation, you're just in the early stages of becoming one who will make it undeniable! Don't give up, new recruit, keep training! Who could possibly keep you more motivated than the trophies of God and your husband!


C'mon, Friend, let's "Occupy Marriage" and "Occupy Everything"!
 
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Koots

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Re: Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

My wife divorced me 2-1/2 years ago after 17 years of marriage. I have 2 teenage daughters. The collapse of the marriage was my fault, I struggled with an addiction for the entire marriage (although I became a believer a year into the marriage, and was in counseling and 12 step recovery). My many failures got to be too much for her, and she called it quits.

I lost everything that matters to me, and had contemplated suicide a number of times. I became so angry at God (funny how I blamed Him for this) that I decided He didn't exist, and started following teachings of world renouned athiests. Well, He wouldn't let me go. One night while watching tv, Frank Turek (www.crossexamined.org) was on debating some college students...every single reason I had for doubting His existence was erased...all my questions answered, one by one. I know He was speaking directly to me, it floored me. Then I happened to find www.rejoiceministries.org and began standing for the restoration of my marriage.

I believe I had to loose everything in order to be broken enough so He could set me free from my addictive sin.

I'm glad to see there are other standers on here, it gets very difficult at times. Especially since I am the one responsible, the guilt can be overwhelming at times (along with the thoughts that come from the enemy...God will never restore your marriage, etc, etc).
 
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GCarlyLT

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Re: Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

I, too, am separated and standing for my 28 year old marriage. My husband is a Christian but he's in rebellion. Unlike most of the prodigals I've read about, my husband went looking for the affair on that ashleymadison website. On the day he told me he had fallen in love with the woman he had been having the physical relationship with, I and my daughters met a different man than the husband I've spent my entire adult life with. He left for a few days, decided he wanted to come back when he saw what was happening to our daughter (we have just the 1child left at home). I gave him my conditions, and he agreed to all of them at the time. Over the next few months he went back on his word on each of my conditions. After a few months went by and a family vacation, he still wanted to lead a dating lifestyle.. I finally was able to ask him to leave again after much counsel. That was over 2 months ago.

When he comes to the house and we talk it just doesn't even seem like he left, but he said he's still thinking about whether or not he wants to work on our marriage, but I know he's still trolling online. I was admitted to the hospital after needing to go to the ER due to pain in my left kidney area. They have now discovered a mass and it has to come out once they figure out what it is. One of the main reasons he said he fell out of love with me is I have chronic health issues and he doesn't think he can spend the rest of his life having to put up with my limitations. And now I have something new. I don't know what God is doing, but I know I can trust Him.

I know that I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I also know that if he decides to file for divorce, I will be devastated but I will move on in whatever direction the Lord leads. I know that God will care for me in every way I need.

I noticed the date on Heather's post was some time ago. Does anyone kmow how things are with her? Eric, how are you doing? I am so sorry about your separation from your daughter. If I didn't have mine, I don't know how I would have made it. You will now be in my prayers.

Gayle
 
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sjask

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#18
Re: Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

Hi,
I am at the beginning of a divorce after 26 years. My husband has had problems with fidelity and I forgave and forgave but I have spent a lot of years being suspicious and unforgiving mainly because I knew in my heart he was still looking around. On Christmas Eve he left because we argued and did not want to be around me and he has not been home since. We have talked and I promised to work on forgiveness if he could vow to be faithful. but he "doesn't think he can change" Since then he came home to half heartedly see if we could be together but I was strong for the first time in my life and told him I needed to gain some self respect and I would need some evidence of a trustworthy man for me to work on trusting him. I still stand for marraige. I am still praying for a faithful man, who can be my partner in life and a spiritual leader in our household. If that is my husband then I will do whatever it takes to make it work if it is not then I will move on. I pray for him because he is lost and the deception of lust permeates his life. Maybe he can find his way but if not I have to accept that divorce is the best thing. He believes this is happening because I am jealous and unforgiving, he doesn't quite see his part in this problem.
 
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Consumed

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Re: Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

Hi,
I am at the beginning of a divorce after 26 years. My husband has had problems with fidelity and I forgave and forgave but I have spent a lot of years being suspicious and unforgiving mainly because I knew in my heart he was still looking around. On Christmas Eve he left because we argued and did not want to be around me and he has not been home since. We have talked and I promised to work on forgiveness if he could vow to be faithful. but he "doesn't think he can change" Since then he came home to half heartedly see if we could be together but I was strong for the first time in my life and told him I needed to gain some self respect and I would need some evidence of a trustworthy man for me to work on trusting him. I still stand for marraige. I am still praying for a faithful man, who can be my partner in life and a spiritual leader in our household. If that is my husband then I will do whatever it takes to make it work if it is not then I will move on. I pray for him because he is lost and the deception of lust permeates his life. Maybe he can find his way but if not I have to accept that divorce is the best thing. He believes this is happening because I am jealous and unforgiving, he doesn't quite see his part in this problem.
with all due respect, divorce is the best thing?? forgiveness/love is unconditional
Jer 32:27
 
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w8t1ng4U

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Re: Any divorced or seperated spouses "standing" for marriage and prodigals?

Heather, I stand with you in your believes and in God's. I am going through the same and still hold onto my marriage. We are not divorced yet, it is still in the process but with all the prayers that I got from cell group and friends I can see he is confused already. Stay in the word!