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Id say you attacked me first and everyone can see that!
I didn't attack you as a person. I questioned the idea that you presented.
Did you go through the whole thread? Ill bet not!! Right? Whats worse? Caving to overbearing family who want to "enlist" this child into RC heresy or standing your ground and talking husband the other direction?
I know you find it difficult to believe that someone can read the entire thread and still come to a different conclusion than the one you draw....but it did happen.
Most agree with me because they know the gravity of the situation and the ramifications of overbearing family but yet you throw in the LAW that she should forsake her child and let the family run the household just so she is submissive! BS!!!
She made a vow before God when she married her husband. The bible stands whether or not you'd prefer it to do so in this particular situation. The very idea that the Holy Spirit is too weak to handle the situation so she must resort to manipulation and trickery instead of following the bible is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. The idea that she must engage in the "lesser sin" in order to avoid a greater sin is also an interesting philosophical stance for a Christian to take.
You are a hypocrite if you say you would submit under these circumstances.
Because,I know you wouldnt!!
Actually, you don't know anything about me and what I would or wouldn't do within a marital relationship. You've presumed a lot based on your prejudices and your need to be right. But I think it's cute that you feel confident enough to tell me how I would behave.
You know what is so funny here is a very liberal "christian" who would come in and tell a woman to submit. Its funny yes very funny .
You're presuming I'm liberal because it suits your biases to presume it.
"christian"
You're also dancing with delusions of godhood when you pretend to be the Holy Spirit and to know whether or not I'm truly a Christian.
I didn't attack you as a person. I questioned the idea that you presented.
Did you go through the whole thread? Ill bet not!! Right? Whats worse? Caving to overbearing family who want to "enlist" this child into RC heresy or standing your ground and talking husband the other direction?
I know you find it difficult to believe that someone can read the entire thread and still come to a different conclusion than the one you draw....but it did happen.
Most agree with me because they know the gravity of the situation and the ramifications of overbearing family but yet you throw in the LAW that she should forsake her child and let the family run the household just so she is submissive! BS!!!
She made a vow before God when she married her husband. The bible stands whether or not you'd prefer it to do so in this particular situation. The very idea that the Holy Spirit is too weak to handle the situation so she must resort to manipulation and trickery instead of following the bible is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. The idea that she must engage in the "lesser sin" in order to avoid a greater sin is also an interesting philosophical stance for a Christian to take.
You are a hypocrite if you say you would submit under these circumstances.
Because,I know you wouldnt!!
Actually, you don't know anything about me and what I would or wouldn't do within a marital relationship. You've presumed a lot based on your prejudices and your need to be right. But I think it's cute that you feel confident enough to tell me how I would behave.
You know what is so funny here is a very liberal "christian" who would come in and tell a woman to submit. Its funny yes very funny .
You're presuming I'm liberal because it suits your biases to presume it.
"christian"
You're also dancing with delusions of godhood when you pretend to be the Holy Spirit and to know whether or not I'm truly a Christian.
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>>>She made a vow before God when she married her husband. The bible stands whether or not you'd prefer it to do so in this particular situation. The very idea that the Holy Spirit is too weak to handle the situation so she must resort to manipulation and trickery instead of following the bible is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. The idea that she must engage in the "lesser sin" in order to avoid a greater sin is also an interesting philosophical stance for a Christian to take. <<<
a hearty AMEN!!!
a hearty AMEN!!!
Id say you attacked me first and everyone can see that!
I didn't attack you as a person. I questioned the idea that you presented.
Did you go through the whole thread? Ill bet not!! Right? Whats worse? Caving to overbearing family who want to "enlist" this child into RC heresy or standing your ground and talking husband the other direction?
I know you find it difficult to believe that someone can read the entire thread and still come to a different conclusion than the one you draw....but it did happen.
Most agree with me because they know the gravity of the situation and the ramifications of overbearing family but yet you throw in the LAW that she should forsake her child and let the family run the household just so she is submissive! BS!!!
She made a vow before God when she married her husband. The bible stands whether or not you'd prefer it to do so in this particular situation. The very idea that the Holy Spirit is too weak to handle the situation so she must resort to manipulation and trickery instead of following the bible is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. The idea that she must engage in the "lesser sin" in order to avoid a greater sin is also an interesting philosophical stance for a Christian to take.
You are a hypocrite if you say you would submit under these circumstances.
Because,I know you wouldnt!!
Actually, you don't know anything about me and what I would or wouldn't do within a marital relationship. You've presumed a lot based on your prejudices and your need to be right. But I think it's cute that you feel confident enough to tell me how I would behave.
You know what is so funny here is a very liberal "christian" who would come in and tell a woman to submit. Its funny yes very funny .
You're presuming I'm liberal because it suits your biases to presume it.
"christian"
You're also dancing with delusions of godhood when you pretend to be the Holy Spirit and to know whether or not I'm truly a Christian.
I didn't attack you as a person. I questioned the idea that you presented.
Did you go through the whole thread? Ill bet not!! Right? Whats worse? Caving to overbearing family who want to "enlist" this child into RC heresy or standing your ground and talking husband the other direction?
I know you find it difficult to believe that someone can read the entire thread and still come to a different conclusion than the one you draw....but it did happen.
Most agree with me because they know the gravity of the situation and the ramifications of overbearing family but yet you throw in the LAW that she should forsake her child and let the family run the household just so she is submissive! BS!!!
She made a vow before God when she married her husband. The bible stands whether or not you'd prefer it to do so in this particular situation. The very idea that the Holy Spirit is too weak to handle the situation so she must resort to manipulation and trickery instead of following the bible is an interesting stance for a Christian to take. The idea that she must engage in the "lesser sin" in order to avoid a greater sin is also an interesting philosophical stance for a Christian to take.
You are a hypocrite if you say you would submit under these circumstances.
Because,I know you wouldnt!!
Actually, you don't know anything about me and what I would or wouldn't do within a marital relationship. You've presumed a lot based on your prejudices and your need to be right. But I think it's cute that you feel confident enough to tell me how I would behave.
You know what is so funny here is a very liberal "christian" who would come in and tell a woman to submit. Its funny yes very funny .
You're presuming I'm liberal because it suits your biases to presume it.
"christian"
You're also dancing with delusions of godhood when you pretend to be the Holy Spirit and to know whether or not I'm truly a Christian.
"Yeah, I'm not sure how valuable it is for a "Christian" to tell a fellow-Christian to sin because they somehow doubt the power of the Holy Spirit to actually be at work in the situation.
"You're also dancing with delusions of godhood when you pretend to be the Holy Spirit and to know whether or not I'm truly a Christian. " So this is where you eat your words? LOL
The very idea that someone would deliberately plan to sin knowing they will "repent" afterward cheapens the grace of Christ. It's an extremely wicked suggestion. It sounds more like a lawyer who's looking for an angle (and a way of asserting their will in a situation) instead of a devoted believer who is seeking to serve God and do His will.
All this because you dont recognize sarcasm ? Facepalm
Now you claim it's sarcasm....in another post you claimed it was the lesser of evils.
Either way...I find it interesting that a Christian would propose deliberately sinning with a plan to "repent" as a means of escaping a difficult situation.
I also find it interesting that you will engage in personal insults when you're confronted with the hinky ideas you present.
Either way...I find it interesting that a Christian would propose deliberately sinning with a plan to "repent" as a means of escaping a difficult situation.
I also find it interesting that you will engage in personal insults when you're confronted with the hinky ideas you present.
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Look, this back and forth fur flying fest is getting pretty ridiculous. Especially when you're pointing out the speck in your sister's eye with the gigantic beam stuck in your eye.
Sarcasm has no place in a serious discussion unless you've known the other person for a long time, and even then, it should never be used via text unless you really know them well. Otherwise you're asking for all kinds of trouble - plus in this case it's not scriptural.
Ephesians 5:4
3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Sarcasm has no place in a serious discussion unless you've known the other person for a long time, and even then, it should never be used via text unless you really know them well. Otherwise you're asking for all kinds of trouble - plus in this case it's not scriptural.
Ephesians 5:4
3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
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It's really not merely a christening in the RCC. Godparents are a big thing. I was only ten, but I remembered what I had to promise to do to be my younger brother's godmother, (and I was up for it at the time.) Godparents and parents vow to raise the child in the RCC. If one of the parents dies before the child is 18, then that godparent steps in to teach the child all things Catholic. That's what baptizing is to them. Vowing to keep the family Catholic and bring the child up in faith in the Catholic Church.
I don't know if that changes your mind, but I did think people ought to know what it is to baptize a baby in the Catholic Church.
I don't know if that changes your mind, but I did think people ought to know what it is to baptize a baby in the Catholic Church.
This is from #56. I guess I did mention it didnt I???????
Encouraging someone to sin? That has to be furthest from the truth. It was sarcasm. You should recognize that shouldnt you? Id say you attacked me first and everyone can see that!
Either way...I find it interesting that a Christian would propose deliberately sinning with a plan to "repent" as a means of escaping a difficult situation.
Are you slow? What part of sarcasm dont you understand? You like to hear yourself talk and go off on a tangent .
I am still right concerning this matter. You dont GET the ramifications. That doesnt surprise me at all.
Encouraging someone to sin? That has to be furthest from the truth. It was sarcasm. You should recognize that shouldnt you? Id say you attacked me first and everyone can see that!
Either way...I find it interesting that a Christian would propose deliberately sinning with a plan to "repent" as a means of escaping a difficult situation.
Are you slow? What part of sarcasm dont you understand? You like to hear yourself talk and go off on a tangent .
I am still right concerning this matter. You dont GET the ramifications. That doesnt surprise me at all.
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anglicans christen children too, though as long as it isn't seen as a replacement for adult chosen baptism, which most realise that have a relationship with Jesus as they get older. As far as i'm concerned the child christening is more about parenting and god -parenting. it would be wrong to be hold someone to judgement cos they dont see it the way you do, I wonder how much more confused the op must be now than when they first got here. yes christening is a mans tradition but so is Christmas and Easter but are we gonna condemn people that join in with the seasonal festivities or say its fine to join in with them as long as you repent after.
and a note, before we start to try and discern whether other people are talking in the flesh or spirit and wether their advice/ opinion is in line with gods word, we could look at our own words, and ask ourselves is this the spirit in me talking or the flesh..
also if you find your in conflict with users in most threads and forums, then it may be you that has the communication issues.
and a note, before we start to try and discern whether other people are talking in the flesh or spirit and wether their advice/ opinion is in line with gods word, we could look at our own words, and ask ourselves is this the spirit in me talking or the flesh..
also if you find your in conflict with users in most threads and forums, then it may be you that has the communication issues.
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Wow! How can you make a decision on this, if you don't understand the decision itself? If you don't understand Catholicism and what they believe regarding "the sacrament of baptism," isn't it a good idea to ask your hubby what he believes? And, if he doesn't know, you might want to talk to the priest that would to the baptism. I was just bringing up the basics of baptism in the RCC. I thought you knew. That you don't know is surprising.
Then again, you had your mind made up before you asked, so this whole thread was moot before it was posted.
Then again, you had your mind made up before you asked, so this whole thread was moot before it was posted.
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