Caffeine and What It Does to Us

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didymos

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Everything in moderation, even moderation... ;)
 
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Alcohol is a drug. Caffeine is a drug. Meth is a drug. Marijuana is a drug.

What's the difference between them all? The legality!

After not consuming any caffeine for a while (a month or so?) I drank some warm Lemon Lift tea (without knowing the name). Then the title of the drink was brought to my attention: Lemon Lift.

I looked in the ingredients and lo and behold, it had black tea in it. I didn't feel too bad from the caffeine, so I drank one more cup of it because it helped my cold.

Not much later I was very jittery and had a thousand things on my mind. I wanted to clean. I wanted to exercise. I wanted to do some crafts.

I ultimately went on a walk, but was on edge. My dad went with me and so did my seven-month old son in the stroller.

Aside from being on edge, the temperature seemed to rise really quickly. After the walk and nursing my son, he was very crabby. All day. Even the next day was bad. I had a headache and was very tired and irritable. My son had also been crabbier than normal still. Aside from being irritable, I was also emotional. VERY emotional.

Today, however, we are both back to normal. There is no more Lemon Lift in the house, along with chocolate, soda, and even coffee.

Here is a seven part video of a sermon on caffeine:
I stay away from caffeine. I think it causes you to burn up energy that was meant for later in the day (or week). I don't even eat chocolate.
 
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miktre

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I think the rest of the videos are worth a peak
[video=youtube;SSPF5IRX6PA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSPF5IRX6PA[/video]
 

kim12345

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I just quit coffee I've been off it for 2 weeks now! This is good for me because I No longer have diaherra. I use to have diaherra every day -that s not healthy
 
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nimbus3852

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Zoloft is a drug.
 
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nathan3

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I really love the smell of coffee ; when it has vanilla , hazelnut or punkin flavor, etc, even better. Ice coffee is fine by me too.

But I could never drink a lot of the stuff no matter how good it is , because of the caffeine . Too much of the stuff just makes me ill. I never tried decaffeinated, it might be time for a switch. But never had any real issues with it aside from that; again i dont drink it often.
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ut you can't really go wrong with green tea if im not mistaken :) What was this thread about ?
 

lydever91

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I never did say that they were the same type of drug..I know they're not, I was once deep into sin many years ago and know from experience.

I do know, though, that for some, if you give a cup of any coffee, homemade or 7-11 kind, it will have almost the same consequences, I mean effects, as meth.
 

Misty77

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I never did say that they were the same type of drug..I know they're not, I was once deep into sin many years ago and know from experience.

I do know, though, that for some, if you give a cup of any coffee, homemade or 7-11 kind, it will have almost the same consequences, I mean effects, as meth.

caffeine=meth


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ww_21

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This girl is and has always been caffeine free. :D
 

lydever91

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This girl is and has always been caffeine free. :D
That's good to hear...how do you do it? Sometimes it crawls back unexpectedly...it's been about 6 days since I last "used" lol
 
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ww_21

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That's good to hear...how do you do it? Sometimes it crawls back unexpectedly...it's been about 6 days since I last "used" lol
lol I have never been dependent on it... there are other methods to energize me if I feel the need, for instance if I feel 'tired and worn out' during the day rather than reaching for coffee I head for a cold drink usually orange juice or something like that loaded with ice, seems silly but it helps a lot. Probably works for me as I live in the tropics so the heat is probably what makes me tired to begin with.
 

lil_christian

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If you are not caffeine dependent, there's really no need to worry.
 
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jb800m

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I am lucky i guess.. I dont find i need really any of the true drugs caffenine included.. but i do feel we need to be careful in catorgizing all of them as fully evil.. I am not sceintist or have had any full revelation from God.. But i feel that for the most part those that are illegal need to be stay away from, Energy drinks are just foolish to have just as a beverage, there is a purpose for this drink and just a casual drink is not it.... Everything in moderation dont overdue things

I do suggest you should research for yourself. Because no one is exactly the same as others different things can cause different reactions,, Also some things are ok for come ppl and not good for others..( ok dont babbling)
 
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nimbus3852

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Remember the McDonalds coffee spill lady? There's a documentary on that one.
 
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rachelalix

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I suffer really bad from anxiety and panic attacks and i drink far to much cola a day after seein this post im going to try drink water instead and hope things change xx
 
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DragonSlayer

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Whenever possible, I always choose to drink decaffeinated coffee. And I would eat chocolate too.
No digestive problems or headaches with chocolate,
and it's so much enjoyable in front of a good movie or series
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I never drink tea, as its amount of fluoride is very high, and fluoride is poison.

I wonder how Gibbs manage to stay so calm with all those morning coffee cups though
:)


 
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just_monicat

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Alcohol is a drug. Caffeine is a drug. Meth is a drug. Marijuana is a drug.

What's the difference between them all? The legality!
i would agree with all, save meth. i cannot condone or imagine any circumstance where meth is an acceptable choice for any circumstance. meth is poison, no less lethal than any deadly weapon.

on the other hand, the rest of that list do have medicinal value, and some have value in moderation. the truth is, all of those cause problems when used regularly and/or excess.

my greatest concern is for those who consume caffeine regularly and view it as innocuous. i was one of those people for a long time, but no longer do i consume it like i used to. i do drink green tea in moderation, and occasionally drink black tea.

the truth is there are lots of plant based chemicals that work in similar fashion as caffeine, i.e. what is often referred to as "mateine" (and appears to have both similar and different effects than the conventional caffeine) in yerba mate, and theobromine and theophylline in naturally found in chocolate. i don't believe modest amounts of NATURALLY occurring caffeine on a semi-regular basis is a problem for most, but one must realize that regular consumption CAN have real health risks.

what i find to be possibly the greatest health risk most commonly found is dehydration. i'm sure the average person thinks they are sufficiently hydrated, but multiple studies show that only 1 in 5 get adequate hydration. caffeine and alcohol are dehydrating on their own, and so when someone is consuming them they actually deplete the body of water, rather than supply it. our body requires about 1/2 oz of fluid for every lb. of body weight and even more when perspiring or in arid or hot environments. when drinking caffeine or alcohol, you need to supplement extra water as well. the list of symptoms arising from mild to severe dehydration present as many illnesses and maladies from headaches, hypertension (high blood pressure) arthritis and angina to name only a few.

when i drank coffee and tea often throughout the day, i had knee and back pain that i was told by doctors was due to injury and would only respond to medication or surgery. i have always struggled with drinking water so i was quite surprised to discover just how much better i began to feel when i was getting the water i needed. no doctor or health expert ever told me that i was dehydrated or even commented on water consumption before, so i never considered the significant health benefits of being well hydrated. i guess it makes only good sense, considering our bodies are over 70% water, and specifically our brains our over 90% water, and all body functions occur in what should be described as a marine environment.

based upon our society's emphasis on caffeinated beverages, sugary and diet sodas and other non-nutritive beverages i personally this is a health crisis that few are aware.

if you want to learn more about the symptoms/diseases that arise from dehydration i would encourage you to do so. there is a lot of great stuff available online, much from dr. f batmanghelidj (also referred to as dr. batman) and is often called "the water cure". i continue to be completely shocked by all the illness, maladies and other conditions that has been shown to go away simply by drinking enough water.
 

maxwel

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Regarding the video:


1. There simply isn't any drug in Ephesians 1:18 except alcohol.
Injecting caffeine or anything else into the passage is terrible exegesis.

So if you want to preach against caffeine, that's fine, but you need a different verse.


2. The word "drug" in modern language is so vague that's it's virtually meaningless.
Even the pharmacological (medicinal) definition of "drug" is so vague it can include almost anything.

Trying to use the word "drug" as an umbrella to include whatever you don't like,
and thus make certain things appear more potent, or illicit,
isn't a scientific approach at all, but rather, it is simply an emotional appeal.

So if you want to use the word "drug" to disparage something, go ahead,
but it really is so vague as to be virtually meaningless.

You should really use better terms.


3. There has been plenty of research into caffeine showing it has POSITIVE
health benefits in moderation.

Let me say that again.

There has been plenty of research into caffeine showing it has POSITIVE
health benefits in moderation.


4. We should of course take proper care of our minds, and our bodies,
but simple common sense tells us this.

It isn't necessary to back up common sense with bad science,
bad use of language, or bad use of scripture.
 
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TaylorTG

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:confused: I'm not sure why you folks seem to have problems with caffeine. I'm only 16 and I drink coffee every now and then (without any obvious side effects). My dad allows/encourages me to and even told me that caffeine can help the heart in some way.
 
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nimbus3852

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I suffer really bad from anxiety and panic attacks and i drink far to much cola a day after seein this post im going to try drink water instead and hope things change xx
Sounds like medical help might be helpful.