caught my son watching xxxx

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
J

joefizz

Guest
Standing up for children? LOL!!!!!!! You seriously need to get under some sound teaching, you're way off track! Looks like you need to get over yourself. People with your unbiblical politically correct philosophy are what is coming against truth and Scripture. You do attend church, right?



No, obviously you don't know what is true or when Scripture is distorted. You've distorted the Word, turned it into a politically correct diatribe to such an extent Hillary would sign it. Your twaddle and diatribe has nothing to do with contextual truth.
Take this up with the Lord if you have a "problem" with his "word" at least I provided "biblical evidence" of my "belief" concerning this abominable promotion of Marc's.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
Take this up with the Lord if you have a "problem" with his "word" at least I provided "biblical evidence" of my "belief" concerning this abominable promotion of Marc's.
"You've" done "no" such "thing." :D

I have no problem with the LORD's Word, only with those of your ilk who rip it out of context and pit it against other truths. But you're not well versed in Scripture and arrive at erroneous conclusions often enough, so I'll chalk it up as ignorance on your part.
 
J

joefizz

Guest
The context isn't about child discipline, now is it? The same God who gave us means to discipline children isn't NOW saying that to spank them is to offend children. You're showing how little you know, so stop while you're behind.

Stop eisegeting Scripture while acting like you are going off the context, and learn to listen to others for once, in other words stop being callow.
So "offending" a child has nothing to do with "upbringing" also including "discipline" Jesus didn't he said "offend" not any 1 "way" someone should not "offend" a child even stating that to do so is even worse than being drowned because of who you "answer to" for doing so.
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
Take this up with the Lord if you have a "problem" with his "word" at least I provided "biblical evidence" of my "belief" concerning this abominable promotion of Marc's.
And I have provided biblical support of mine. Your comment would be of value if there had been offence.

My daughter thought of spankings as God's tool for helping her remember to do right as the Bible says it should be.

My son thought the same but my daughter's view is more significant because of her gender. She received very few spankings; but the few she got were well received even into her teens.
 
J

joefizz

Guest
Anyways apologies to the member "Noob Saibot" for "being apart of further derailing this thread" if you are still around no matter the circumstance we ought to have tried to "stay on subject" and I hope you did or will find an answer to what to teach your son and what restrictions to make.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
So "offending" a child has nothing to do with "upbringing" also including "discipline" Jesus didn't he said "offend" not any 1 "way" someone should not "offend" a child even stating that to do so is even worse than being drowned because of who you "answer to" for doing so.
How many times do you need to be told that's not the context? 100 times or more? Please go show us all where the context is about parental discipline of children. What is the topic of that passage in context?

Does God punish his children? Yep. Does he instruct us to punish our own? Yep. Why? Because in the context of Hebrews it compares how our parents have disciplined us and that God our Father does the same, inflicting pain into our lives to accomplish an end toward correction. There are more Scriptures.

But good old joefizz comes along and tells us he (God) wants us to not do this unless we offend the little tykes. That is taking Scripture out of context and not implementing 2 Timothy 2:15.
 

lightbearer

Senior Member
Jun 17, 2017
2,375
504
113
58
HBG. Pa. USA
When corporal punishment and open prayer were legal in our schools we did not have school shootings and human life was valued!
And most young lads hand access to weapons. Ones they could grab anytime they wanted. Imagine that!
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,004
8,699
113
What I find disturbing is those born after Operation Desert Storm (do they even know what that is) having the audacity to question, judge, AND condemn a man of integrity, and his parenting methods of a man who has dedicated his life to spreading the Gospel and love of Jesus Christ.

Most, if not all of whom have never had a child.

If he is guilty of anything, it is not fully grasping the society we now find ourselves in. And that expressing a view that deviates from THEIR ideas is NOT TO BE TOLERATED! One that has no memory or concept about a society that honored elders, understood the necessity of disciplining children, and didn't walk around in righteous indignation against anything but THEIR ideas, and the studies of "academia" they worship.

It's a shame, but on an open forum like this, we must be wise as serpents, and hold our tongues against such as these.
 
Last edited:

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
What I find disturbing is those born after Operation Desert Storm (do they even know what that is) having the audacity to question, judge, AND condemn a man of integrity, and his parenting methods of a man who has dedicated his life to spreading the Gospel and love of Jesus Christ.

Most, if not all of whom have never had a child.

If he is guilty of anything, it is not fully grasping the society we now find ourselves in. And that expressing a view that deviates from THEIR ideas is NOT TO BE TOLERATED! One that has no memory or concept about a society that honored elders, understood the necessity of disciplining children, and didn't walk around in righteous indignation against anything but THEIR ideas, and the studies of "academia" they worship.

It's a shame, but on an open forum like this, we must be wise as serpents, and hold our tongues against such as these.
Thank you for your kind words.
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
What evidence do you have that "a great many believers will disagree with me" that your earlier demanding post is not based upon facts, but is rather based upon your own opinion ? ... How can you speak for so many other believers when you are only one man ? ... I interpret scripture "as it is written" ... I do not pretend to be God myself nor attempt to mimic His behavior ... I believe you are entering into dangerous territory when you attempt to do that ... Your philosophy regarding the discipline of children is not supported anywhere within the Bible ... Yet, you typed your philosophy as if it were fact for the entire forum to see ... Telling others what they "should" and "should not" do with their children ... All the while, there was no scripture in the Bible to support your claims whatsoever ... I believe there are a great deal of believers that would disagree with that type of behavior ...
I don't want to appear boastful because I don't like people who are and don't want to see that in myself!

However I do want to try to answer your question.

The number of likes and rep comments I receive seems like a realistic indicator of whether people think like I do.
Those likes you are referring to were for other posts you made MarcR ... They were not for the post you recently made regarding the discipline of children, which was entirely unsupported by the Bible ... You cannot rest upon past stances to assume those people would agree with your most recent stance ... That is also a false philosophy ... Simply because people agreed with other stances that you took in the past is not any indicator that they will agree with just anything you decide to post ...

Perhaps you should look again
 
P

Pontiac

Guest
Once again, here appears your arrogance Marc ... As an earlier poster stated, it really is not relevant how many likes you might receive on this or any other subject ... That is not a direct reflection of what the Bible actually states ... The Bible nowhere condones your idea of "stripping a child naked" before disciplining them ... That is a simple fact ... A million people can side with you on that philosophy if they desire and still it does not make it correct ... Also, your suggestion that "all Christians" should follow your unsupported philosophy of disciplining a child is further proof of your arrogance ... You may be correct on many issues, but this is not one of them ...
 

LaurieB

Senior Member
Mar 12, 2018
177
10
18
You don't know what you're talking about. I do, in fact, I know the law. Spanking and hitting are not to be conflated.
Simply look this up in a dictionary "preacher" and you will see that spanking IS hitting. and, I most certainly DO know exactly what I am talking about. Graduated from college with a major in psychological child development, work for child protective services.
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
What evidence do you have that "a great many believers will disagree with me" that your earlier demanding post is not based upon facts, but is rather based upon your own opinion ? ... How can you speak for so many other believers when you are only one man ? ... I interpret scripture "as it is written" ... I do not pretend to be God myself nor attempt to mimic His behavior ... I believe you are entering into dangerous territory when you attempt to do that ... Your philosophy regarding the discipline of children is not supported anywhere within the Bible ... Yet, you typed your philosophy as if it were fact for the entire forum to see ... Telling others what they "should" and "should not" do with their children ... All the while, there was no scripture in the Bible to support your claims whatsoever ... I believe there are a great deal of believers that would disagree with that type of behavior ...
I don't want to appear boastful because I don't like people who are and don't want to see that in myself!

However I do want to try to answer your question.

The number of likes and rep comments I receive seems like a realistic indicator of whether people think like I do.
Those likes you are referring to were for other posts you made MarcR ... They were not for the post you recently made regarding the discipline of children, which was entirely unsupported by the Bible ... You cannot rest upon past stances to assume those people would agree with your most recent stance ... That is also a false philosophy ... Simply because people agreed with other stances that you took in the past is not any indicator that they will agree with just anything you decide to post ...
That certainly explains why you put cultural values ahead of Biblical truth. IMO 75% of all people in CPS should be jailed for criminal misfeasance.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
Simply look this up in a dictionary "preacher" and you will see that spanking IS hitting. and, I most certainly DO know exactly what I am talking about. Graduated from college with a major in psychological child development, work for child protective services.
Congrats on your associates degree!

You still don't know what you're talking about, but that's the problem with DFS workers.

Spanking isn't hitting. Spanking isn't beating. That and I have little respect for ANY DFS services. We have much experience with these "workers" and the many problems they've caused on good families here in our city. Way too much power, and way too many lies it propagates on others to push a leftist agenda and assault the family. If anyone here doubts this, just do some research.

Oh, looky here, even in Cali it's supported: California court upholds mother's right to spank daughter | Fox News

Hey, you can conflate hitting with spanking all you want, and decry child discipline. All it tells me is you're a liberal democrat and are politically correct.

Oh, and for the record (for others) spanking is allowed. When a child is HIT and it leaves marks that last a certain amount of time, it is then abuse. Spanking is not that. For any DFS worker to tell you it is, they're lying, and it just shows how it wishes to take any parental authority out of the home. Don't buy the lies of the DFS.
 
Last edited:

Socreta93

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2015
2,248
329
83
Why do all these types of threads always go off the rails?
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
Simply look this up in a dictionary "preacher" and you will see that spanking IS hitting. and, I most certainly DO know exactly what I am talking about. Graduated from college with a major in psychological child development, work for child protective services.
I see you are 20 years old. I graduated High School 42 years before you were born.

My wife has a BA in Social Welfare and a nearly completed MA in Rehabilitation Counselling. She has all the coursework completed for her MA in Special Education.

I have completed a multiple subjects teaching credential. FYI corporal punishment is still legal in private church schools in most states with parental permission.
 

LaurieB

Senior Member
Mar 12, 2018
177
10
18
Congrats on your associates degree!

Again To spank you have to strike .. that is hitting. You have not consulted your dictionary. That is not my problem, but yours. I have my BA and am currently working on my MA. I only mentioned it because the discussion about what is ... and is not ... child abuse was brought up.

You remain confused "preacher". I know that parents still have the right to "spank" (euphemism for hit) their children. What I actually said is that it is ILLEGAL to use corporal punishment in public schools. And, spanking is considered corporal punishment.
You don't like DFS workers? Here is my take on that. If you have nothing to hide, you have no issue with them. They are
there to protect children from child abuse. You do not own your children and they are not your property to do with as you wish.
 
Dec 28, 2016
9,171
2,718
113
I want to bump the response below since liberal political correctness has been derailing this thread. Sorry for engaging them. No more. I would like the OP to see this:

Allow me to ask: Do you take your child(ren) to church? Do you walk with God? Do you pray and read Scripture with your children? Not, do you take them once in a while, read to them or prayed with them like at dinner or in cursory fashion. Are you spiritually leading your home, Ephesians 6:4? It is my sincere hope that you do these things, consistently, and if not that you will take the lead God has called converted father's to do. I am assuming you are a born again believer.
 

MarcR

Senior Member
Feb 12, 2015
5,486
183
63
Once again, here appears your arrogance Marc ... As an earlier poster stated, it really is not relevant how many likes you might receive on this or any other subject ... That is not a direct reflection of what the Bible actually states ... The Bible nowhere condones your idea of "stripping a child naked" before disciplining them ... That is a simple fact ... A million people can side with you on that philosophy if they desire and still it does not make it correct ... Also, your suggestion that "all Christians" should follow your unsupported philosophy of disciplining a child is further proof of your arrogance ... You may be correct on many issues, but this is not one of them ...
I mentioned them only in an attempt to answer your question. You asked me how I determined what I thought others would agree with. It seems to have been a reasonably accurate predictor.

I do indeed have a low regard for your opinions. If that constitutes arrogance, so be it! IMO the arrogance is on your part.