Correcting Childeren ??

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guidingfaith13

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I was sitting here thinking about all the wrong,right ways to correct a child!! Open for discussion- No judging here!! Let me know how you would correct/discipline your child..what do you do how do you approach it :) is it out of Love or Anger :) Love hearing different approaches and scriptures to back it up :)
 

JimJimmers

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I have heard people ask the question, "Should I reward my children for doing right or punish them for doing wrong?" The age-old debate of punishment vs. positive reinforcement. Reading through the scriptures, it seems clear that the only thing to do is a mixture of both.

And, of course, reward doesn't have to be material, or even tangible.
 
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guidingfaith13

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I have heard people ask the question, "Should I reward my children for doing right or punish them for doing wrong?" The age-old debate of punishment vs. positive reinforcement. Reading through the scriptures, it seems clear that the only thing to do is a mixture of both.

And, of course, reward doesn't have to be material, or even tangible.

:) yeah i believe that both a forms of punishment and re-enforcement are extremely important in establishing a base for your child to grow and Learn upon.. Not only are you teaching the fundamentals of obedience through punishment but are establishing a loving relationship through positive reinforcement for your child..

Im curious what method did your parents use with you growing up? Do you support the methods they used or do you wish they approached it differently?
 

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Positive reinforcement, and punishment. Positive reinforcement in the form of kind words, tangible rewards, quality time, etc.

Punishment in the form of verbal correction, removal of privileges, and corporal punishment. (Which I needed, lol. I was a Real Boy, as Pinocchio says)
 
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guidingfaith13

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Positive reinforcement, and punishment. Positive reinforcement in the form of kind words, tangible rewards, quality time, etc.

Punishment in the form of verbal correction, removal of privileges, and corporal punishment. (Which I needed, lol. I was a Real Boy, as Pinocchio says)


okay thats wonderful :) is there anything at all you would have done differently?
 

maxwel

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The real key, long before correction, is to establish very clear boundaries.

1. Make very clear boundaries (rules) for everything that is important.
2. Establish very clear consequences (discipline) for breaching those boundaries.
3. ENFORCE those rules... enforce them every time, and the same exact way... no slacking off.
4. After doling out consequences (punishment)...
always explain again that the rules are not to be mean,
but rather they are there so they will stay SAFE, and LEARN TO DO RIGHT.
Then always tell them again how much you, and God, love them.


Children feel safe and secure when they have boundaries.
They feel loved.

As far as the exact types of "consequences" for breaking the boundaries... there are lots of ways to do things.

Generally you can use small, relatively painless consequences for small things,
and more serious consequences for more serious things.

Most consequences for small things should be immediate, and very short lived... in and out.

IF NONE OF THIS WORKS... USE CHINESE WATER TORTURE!
: )
 

Mo0448

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There was definitely corporal punishment at home it wasn't anything that left marks and called a need for a hospital visit or something but some definitely hurt haha. As much as everyone would like to argue that you can vividly explain to a child and have him or her understand why they shouldn't do something with words alone, they do not have the mental capacity to understand how their actions influence things in many cases while speaking or saying no does solve the problem, sometimes you have to resort to other methods, grounding and light spanking. Spanking never hurt anyone I came out just fine :rolleyes: really though, the problem with many of the younger generations (i feel old just saying that) is that they're entitled little punks that never got the proper discipline they deserved
 
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guidingfaith13

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The real key, long before correction, is to establish very clear boundaries.

1. Make very clear boundaries (rules) for everything that is important.
2. Establish very clear consequences (discipline) for breaching those boundaries.
3. ENFORCE those rules... enforce them every time, and the same exact way... no slacking off.
4. After doling out consequences (punishment)...
always explain again that the rules are not to be mean,
but rather they are there so they will stay SAFE, and LEARN TO DO RIGHT.
Then always tell them again how much you, and God, love them.


Children feel safe and secure when they have boundaries.
They feel loved.

As far as the exact types of "consequences" for breaking the boundaries... there are lots of ways to do things.

Generally you can use small, relatively painless consequences for small things,
and more serious consequences for more serious things.

Most consequences for small things should be immediate, and very short lived... in and out.

IF NONE OF THIS WORKS... USE CHINESE WATER TORTURE!
: )
ahahahah well you got that right :p ahah i guess one of my questions about the punishment.. is when does it get physical? Like is spanking better then nothing if its done out of Love..
 

Dotann

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Hi,


Well i am an Early Childhood Educator and have taught in various schools systems from Kindergarten to grade 8 and owned operated my own daycare for over 20 years as well as was a Nanny to a ECA Supervisor and Manager for over 3 years. I also worked as the Director of the Nursery for 4 years at the church and taught grade the 3/4 , grade 2, grade 4/5 and Kindergarten class at the church for over 5 years. And i have one son who has mental disabilities and is almost now 29 years old. Lets say, i have spent a lot of years teaching and learning how to manage children's behavior as well as trying to help them over their life.

What i have found is you need both. You always need to be a constant positive support and influence them with constructive and sound feedback. They thrive on knowing they did something well!
They also need to know when their behavior is negative, so you also need to be aware of this and it too needs to be acknowledged. But in such a way that it is not detrimental to them physically, mentally or emotionally. Each child is different. Start with verbalization and explaining why they have done something wrong, but gently. and show them the reason why they should not do it. Again it depends on age, but with reason.

Time outs can work too, and this works as follows, - each minute per age of child. To sit alone no talking, playing and told to think about the choices they made and when the time comes to be released from the spot, perhaps the child can think of new concepts of choices he or she might have made differently and you will discuss them together after. (But don't drag it out. Just keep it brief and let the child go off and play so they are not made to feel subject to further punishment)

Their are more ways, but these are some of the main things i guess. The important thing is that all kids love attention and they will try to get it no matter what, even if its the wrong kind of attention meaning doing something bad, just to be noticed if they are starving for affection. Somtimes, We have to look underneath the lining to get to the real problem to see that the reason a child might be acting out is due to not getting enough love at home.. So if you started paying a bit of attention to that child more, like a hug here or there, making him or her feel special, you might notice that those little once very noticeable bursts of acting out in the play yard or in the classroom, suddenly stop and they are the perfect child..
Its like night and day...

Just like John Lennon says,,,, All we need is Love! :)

Anyways,, hope this helps!

Dotann
 

maxwel

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Regarding Positive reinforcement...

you can never give a child too much encouragement and love.


But ya know... sometimes you still have to lock them in a cage.
: )
 

maxwel

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I was sitting here thinking about all the wrong,right ways to correct a child!! Open for discussion- No judging here!! Let me know how you would correct/discipline your child..what do you do how do you approach it :) is it out of Love or Anger :) Love hearing different approaches and scriptures to back it up :)
Never discipline a child out of anger.

If you're upset, wait till you calm down... then go deal with it.

(BTW, all those time-outs mentioned by Dot are pure awesomeness. Short, simple, painless, and over fast. They're great. If it's your OWN child, it is biblical to use corporal punishment... but I think the need is very rare. The bible pretty much explains what it's for. It isn't for normal dumb things, it is for major rebellion... meaning when the child does something really terrible, and has no sorrow or remorse... thus total rebellion. If the child is sorry, then a very light punishment is usually plenty.)
 
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guidingfaith13

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There was definitely corporal punishment at home it wasn't anything that left marks and called a need for a hospital visit or something but some definitely hurt haha. As much as everyone would like to argue that you can vividly explain to a child and have him or her understand why they shouldn't do something with words alone, they do not have the mental capacity to understand how their actions influence things in many cases while speaking or saying no does solve the problem, sometimes you have to resort to other methods, grounding and light spanking. Spanking never hurt anyone I came out just fine :rolleyes: really though, the problem with many of the younger generations (i feel old just saying that) is that they're entitled little punks that never got the proper discipline they deserved
i agree 100% with you!! i was spanked and came out just fine..im thankful that my parents Loved me enough to make sure i knew right from wrong .. thinking back.. i dont remember why my parents told me it was wrong.. i dont remember them saying try to do this next time.. even though they did..but as a child you dont retain that information.. but i do remember however is that light tap on the bum..but my mother always told me she loved me after and gave me a big hug and kiss;) when i would go to do somthing wrong i remember thinking hey wait last time my parents spanked me i dont want to disappoint them again..which is a big part in learning obedients.. then whenever i didnt do it and i did the right thing i would always get soo much attention love and praise :) and that is structurally how a child learns :) now i dont know if i would spank but id use the twig method!! that way its a bit lighter and smaller then a grown mans hand ahah
 
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guidingfaith13

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Never discipline a child out of anger.

If you're upset, wait till you calm down... then go deal with it.

(BTW, all those time-outs mentioned by Dot are pure awesomeness. Short, simple, painless, and over fast. They're great. If it's your OWN child, it is biblical to use corporal punishment... but I think the need is very rare. The bible pretty much explains what it's for. It isn't for normal dumb things, it is for major rebellion... meaning when the child does something really terrible, and has no sorrow or remorse... thus total rebellion. If the child is sorry, then a very light punishment is usually plenty.)

yes always always wait to cool down before punishment so they know your doing it out of love not having patients with them.
 
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guidingfaith13

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Hi,


Well i am an Early Childhood Educator and have taught in various schools systems from Kindergarten to grade 8 and owned operated my own daycare for over 20 years as well as was a Nanny to a ECA Supervisor and Manager for over 3 years. I also worked as the Director of the Nursery for 4 years at the church and taught grade the 3/4 , grade 2, grade 4/5 and Kindergarten class at the church for over 5 years. And i have one son who has mental disabilities and is almost now 29 years old. Lets say, i have spent a lot of years teaching and learning how to manage children's behavior as well as trying to help them over their life.

What i have found is you need both. You always need to be a constant positive support and influence them with constructive and sound feedback. They thrive on knowing they did something well!
They also need to know when their behavior is negative, so you also need to be aware of this and it too needs to be acknowledged. But in such a way that it is not detrimental to them physically, mentally or emotionally. Each child is different. Start with verbalization and explaining why they have done something wrong, but gently. and show them the reason why they should not do it. Again it depends on age, but with reason.

Time outs can work too, and this works as follows, - each minute per age of child. To sit alone no talking, playing and told to think about the choices they made and when the time comes to be released from the spot, perhaps the child can think of new concepts of choices he or she might have made differently and you will discuss them together after. (But don't drag it out. Just keep it brief and let the child go off and play so they are not made to feel subject to further punishment)

Their are more ways, but these are some of the main things i guess. The important thing is that all kids love attention and they will try to get it no matter what, even if its the wrong kind of attention meaning doing something bad, just to be noticed if they are starving for affection. Somtimes, We have to look underneath the lining to get to the real problem to see that the reason a child might be acting out is due to not getting enough love at home.. So if you started paying a bit of attention to that child more, like a hug here or there, making him or her feel special, you might notice that those little once very noticeable bursts of acting out in the play yard or in the classroom, suddenly stop and they are the perfect child..
Its like night and day...

Just like John Lennon says,,,, All we need is Love! :)

Anyways,, hope this helps!

Dotann
:) im a firm believe in picking your battles.. there some things a child will do to get attention!! if it isnt physically harmful to them or anyone else then let it go :) then they will know hey this didnt work i wont do that again.. :) im not completly sold on time out :/ idk even the thought of isolating them to punsh them bothers me more so then yelling..seems that this would do more emotional damage. You never wanted a child to feel alone even if its just for a few seconds.. while it may work for most kids i think ill will take a different approach with mine :) thank you so much for sharing your story and ideas :)
 

JimJimmers

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okay that's wonderful :) is there anything at all you would have done differently?
I would have been more obedient, LOL. As far as parenting, nothing major. I'm sure some minor adjustments, different chore division maybe. My parents would be disappointed if I didn't try to be better than they at parenting :)
 
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guidingfaith13

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I would have been more obedient, LOL. As far as parenting, nothing major. I'm sure some minor adjustments, different chore division maybe. My parents would be disappointed if I didn't try to be better than they at parenting :)
hahahaha thats when you say eh ive learned from your mistakes and that should make you proud ahahahahaha
 

maxwel

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I just realized all the single girls are going to read my comments and then...

think I like children!


What have I done.
 
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guidingfaith13

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I just realized all the single girls are going to read my comments and then...

think I like children!


What have I done.
ahhahahah thats because without knowing it your hearts telling you that children are precious and are a tremendous blessing and a lot of hard work ahahha
 

JimJimmers

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It's okay Max, we know you hate puppies and children.