Dont judge

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KennethC

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Brother_J_BELGIUM said:
I fully agree! We have to do it with love. As a wise Dutch saying says: "He is firm, but fair." We ought to be like that. Point out the mistakes and admonish them in love where they were wrong and tell them we are all sinners and need to confess our sins and we are not ought to be saying "hey, don't you judge me" because the other will say "hey, I only did it because I love you and I don't want you to sin, I'd be happy if you warned me too when I have sinned so we can help each other to be right with the Lord at all times".
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Acts 20:28-31


28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.

30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
 
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Brother_J_BELGIUM

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KennethC said:
Acts 20:28-31


28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.

30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
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Wow, especially that last verse is just... It shows with how much passion and led by the Holy Spirit he was filled.
 
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atwhatcost

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Justifiedgirl said:
Potty mouth? I didnt curse at all. I put arse so that i wouldnt curse ....next time i can just put the actual word if its fowl language either way
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I accepted that word in the same rational as you used it. But truth be known, in some parts of the world, it is the same as the other word. Try tush, bottom, butt, seat, derriere, tuckus, rear, posterior end, south end of a north bound donkey, bum, or sacrum cushion to stay on the safe side. (The advantages of writing a novel for middle graders. I've learned a lot of words to replace the words I'm thinking. lol)
 
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Justifiedgirl

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Thak you
Ill be much more carefull and use a better vocabulary from now on
 
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atwhatcost

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kaylagrl said:
That word would be considered swearing in a Christian forum,and elsewhere for that matter.But certainly it is in here.
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I had THAT grandmother. You know the type. You didn't want to curse in front of her or you feared she'd have a heart attack. Butt and bum were acceptable. Rear end or derriere was preferred. Butthead got a stern look, but neither a heart attack nor a spanking. The word we're debating here might have won me a thump with her silver thimble upside my head. Sometimes that hurt worse than her spankings. (She had arthritic hands, so, granted, her spankings never matched her hubby's spankings nor my Dad's. lol) The one none of us dare say was heart attack worthy, even if we were talking about donkeys. But she sure taught me what was or wasn't grandmother-approved language. lol
 
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1 Corinthians 5
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11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


Romans 16:17-18

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.


2 John 1:10-11

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.


John 7:24

Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”




Matthew 7:16

You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?




2 Timothy 4:3-4

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.




Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.


12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
 
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kaylagrl

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atwhatcost said:
I had THAT grandmother. You know the type. You didn't want to curse in front of her or you feared she'd have a heart attack. Butt and bum were acceptable. Rear end or derriere was preferred. Butthead got a stern look, but neither a heart attack nor a spanking. The word we're debating here might have won me a thump with her silver thimble upside my head. Sometimes that hurt worse than her spankings. (She had arthritic hands, so, granted, her spankings never matched her hubby's spankings nor my Dad's. lol) The one none of us dare say was heart attack worthy, even if we were talking about donkeys. But she sure taught me what was or wasn't grandmother-approved language. lol
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Lol I hear ya! We learned some new words in school that got us in trouble.I remember dropping the F bomb cause I heard another kid say it.Shoot by the time I got a spanking,Bible verses and a good tongue lashing I felt lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut. I was a lot more careful of trying out new words after that!
 
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atwhatcost

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kaylagrl said:
Lol I hear ya! We learned some new words in school that got us in trouble.I remember dropping the F bomb cause I heard another kid say it.Shoot by the time I got a spanking,Bible verses and a good tongue lashing I felt lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut. I was a lot more careful of trying out new words after that!
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It gets worse. I was 14 and my 16 year old cousin went to the UK for a few weeks with a church group. (Episcopalian, and the pastor who took them was a family friend. The pastor was also over my grandmother's house that day, as we all gathered to celebrate my cousins return. BIG family gathering.)

Out in the yard, my cousin was telling stuff about the trip he didn't want the adults to know. He sneaked away one day and went to "a cat house." Well, I have always, always been naive, so I pictured a museum with a cat theme. He had a Siamese cat. His sister and brother both had Siamese cats, so it wasn't outside the possibilities of what a cat house was... at least in my mind. Although, I didn't really understand why my older brothers got excited about this. They didn't even like cats.

So, after the story was over, we all went inside, where that same grandmother, the pastor, my cousin's parents, and all the other parents were. The pastor was talking about how some kids sneaked off. He looked at my cousin and said, "So where did you sneak off to?"

I was very excited and said, "Yeah, tell about the cat house."

It took me 2-3 days before anyone told me what a cat house really was. Even then, I had no idea why he'd want to go to one of those. Ewwww! :eek:
 
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kaylagrl

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atwhatcost said:
It gets worse. I was 14 and my 16 year old cousin went to the UK for a few weeks with a church group. (Episcopalian, and the pastor who took them was a family friend. The pastor was also over my grandmother's house that day, as we all gathered to celebrate my cousins return. BIG family gathering.)

Out in the yard, my cousin was telling stuff about the trip he didn't want the adults to know. He sneaked away one day and went to "a cat house." Well, I have always, always been naive, so I pictured a museum with a cat theme. He had a Siamese cat. His sister and brother both had Siamese cats, so it wasn't outside the possibilities of what a cat house was... at least in my mind. Although, I didn't really understand why my older brothers got excited about this. They didn't even like cats.

So, after the story was over, we all went inside, where that same grandmother, the pastor, my cousin's parents, and all the other parents were. The pastor was talking about how some kids sneaked off. He looked at my cousin and said, "So where did you sneak off to?"

I was very excited and said, "Yeah, tell about the cat house."

It took me 2-3 days before anyone told me what a cat house really was. Even then, I had no idea why he'd want to go to one of those. Ewwww! :eek:
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That is a hilarious story!! lol What a sneaky cousin you had.lol A cat house,too funny. I bet they even had Persian rugs there. :rolleyes:
 
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Tintin

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I still don't know what a 'cat house' is.
 
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Angel371

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john 12/48 he who rejects Me and does not recieve My words has that which judges him, and the words which I (christ) have spoken will judge him in the last days and jugment begins at the house of God
 
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Cruisyazz

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Angela53510 said:
First, the verse you quoted addresses "brothers" (includes sisters in the Greek). That means it is talking about fellow Christians, not the world.

Second, what makes you think I judge anyone? You are judging me to say that! I have a lot of love for people for whom life has thrown an unfair curve ball.

Third - there but for the grace of God go I.
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Imagine that then... That he had to speak directly to the church to get their house in order so they don't judge each other. I would assume if their house (the church) isn't in order than the same rule applies towards the judgement of the non believer
 
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Eva1218

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I for one believe as many who will walk away from another who is in the world and judge them. Just the same will love on them. I have seen both sides and also have partaken in both sides. I was raised in a Christian home and was taught to never look down on anyone. While in my teens and early twenties I seen where homeless people would use the money they collected from passersby to support their drug habits which in turn made me twist my head and turn away from them.

When I truly gave my life to CHRIST and decided to live a life for HIM, HE gave me a heart to reach out to the lost. I'm involved in a church now that is all about outreach we go out in the communities and evangelize where others may not even know they are there. We go on Missions and feed, clothe, minister, provide aid, support, make friends and disciples, Internationally and Domestic . Yes it is truly Awesome! So I get where your coming from with the post, but it is very stern in your approach and for one to truly grasp it we are to love. Love is the key is grasp the heart, spirit and soul of a person and then you have the attention to share your heart. Just a thought. So now my question to you is please share what you are doing for the lost and not judging them?

Blessings!!!!!!!
 
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Willie-T said:
This is one of the basic efforts of our church (and all Vineyards)...... to NOT be an intimidating place where just ANYONE from the streets can comfortably come, and feel welcomed and accepted.
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Do you attend a Vineyard Church? I did for a while in my early days as a Christian :)
 
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Magenta said:
Do you attend a Vineyard Church? I did for a while in my early days as a Christian :)
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Yes. It took me more than 30 years to find it, and when I did, it seemed like I had never actually been in a church before.... despite the fact that I have attended or visited scores of churches over the span of my life.
 
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Willie-T said:
Yes. It took me more than 30 years to find it, and when I did, it seemed like I had never actually been in a church before.... despite the fact that I have attended or visited scores of churches over the span of my life.
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Yes, I know what you mean... I asked that question before reading further, which after reading the whole thread I realized that is the church you attend. In my early days as a Christian I was part of a huge congregation and also attended the smaller congregation of the Vineyard. I used to go to prayer meetings at the pastor's house; they discussed baptizing me, but I was going through the Alpha course at the large church at the same time, and baptism was the planned outcome of that for those who were up for it, and I certainly was done with my wandering the wilderness after more than three decades of it.

I found it very interesting to discover that John Wimber was a founder of that church. I am a huge fan of modern praise and worship music, and for many years listened almost exclusively to songs on their label, knowing that it would be an awesome rendition.

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