He says that he will leave if I don't support him and his children financially.....

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relatiosnhipdrama

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I am new here and feel very torn about by my relationship. I love my husband (I love the man he CAN be and HAS BEEN)


I am engaged to this man who has been married before. He’s 49 - I am 41. He has 3 kids from a previous marriage, one of whom is 22. The others are teenagers. He still pays 1750 a month in child support.


When we met he was making a lot of money. 300k. I changed professions and moved to be closer to him. I am back to making what I made when we met. 150k a year.


He pushed hard for me to move in with him — he has a house. He said if I didn’t move, he didn’t think he could take the long distance anymore. We lived a few hours away from each other.


He pressured hard and told me he was done with me if I would not just give in and move. I did. I quit my job and immediately had enough income to at least cover my bills.


As soon as I moved, he put me on the bank account but took all of my checks. He was very clear that since I was living in HIS house, he would be in control of the finances.


This made me very fearful and I began going back and forth on whether I could do this. I went back and begged for my job back but it didn’t work. I was acting so irrational during this time with my employer (due to my fiances’ demands) that I was not seen the way I used to be.


From there, I started in a personal downward spiral. It didn’t take long before I was able to get my business together and make a lot of cash again, but I was very scared and uncertain- as this was a new biz NOT the profession that I left.


Then, my fiance began getting upset if I had to work out of town at all. He literally called me and told me since I was 2 hours away, if I didn’t come home by dinner time, that he was done with me.


I freaked out and I got scared to come home. I was going to get a hotel room, but I learned he cut the credit card. I was forced to go home…


This was over a year ago. Since then, we have had many more issues…. but good times, as well.


However, now he lost his job and is starting a new business. He has business loans but is depending on my income to pay all the normal bills of the house. I can’t afford ALL of his bills, but I wouldn’t know. He will handle all the money.


I have been considering leaving (silently) and I haven’t deposited my check from Friday. He is on a war path and he told me that if I don’t become a “good partner” and “dependable with my money” that he will have to “take care of himself” and that could mean moving away to get a better job.


He said that he can’t deal with my “feelings anymore” and I better just figure out if I am in or if i am out.


I said, well, if I am supporting all this — I would like to be married. I am paying his mortgage, car, child support etc. He said no. He can’t marry me right now and my demands for marriage make him feel trapped and very concerned about my motivation to “trap him”.


I cried and said I can’t believe he would say this….He told me that my crying is manipulation and makes him want to run further from me.


We had this convo last night when I gently asked him if he had any idea of a wedding date/year? He blew up and said that most men want to come home to a soft/loving woman who wants to be sexy. Not ask a million questions and that he doesn’t want a mate like this — andI need to change my behavior.


He literally said — I am a strong force and I hope you know that if someone challenges me I will ALWAYS win.


Now, I believe he will be profitable with his business soon and I think a lot of what he’s saying is bluffing…because I have tried to leave him before and he BEGS (and bullies) me back. He literally has chased me as I was leaving.. before.


Now, he says he has no time for this and he can’t possibly deal with me like this any longer…and I better get the message fast.


In addition, he is adopted. He met his bio mom about 4 years ago…before he met me. HER husband (who he has met a couple of times) just died of cancer yesterday.


He feels it’s imperative that he attend the funeral and he wants me to go. I said okay. I know I will eventually have to pay the credit card bill, but okay…


He told me yesterday that his 22 year old daughter wants to attend this funeral too. She told my fiance that he should pay for her. He told her that I am paying for the trip because money is tight. Her response? She should pay for ME because at least I am family — she isn’t. I should go in her place.


I had a shocked look on my face when he said that to me…and he said “don’t look at me like that — you better back off because she is my daughter — and I told her she isn’t going, that you are because you are paying…” I said how about because you WANT me to go? He said that he couldn’t believe I said that — that he wouldn’t have invited me if he didn’t want me to go…


He said that his entire family has warned him that I am not going to help him for long and that they are very worried about him with him with me…. and that I have a lot to prove because our past issues…


I know none of this sounds good. Is there anything in here that I am at fault for? I am not perfect — but I also feel so sad about all of this.


He told me this morning that he is sick of fighting day and in and day out. I said I DO NOT FIGHT — he said well you start the fights because you have a question for everything…
 

Fenner

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You need to leave ASAP. This guy is a mentally unstable control freak. Take your paycheck find a place to stay don't look back.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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I am sorry to confuse. I said hustband in the first line. We call each other husband and wife-- but we are not legally married.
 

blue_ladybug

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I 1000% agree with Fenner. This guy is a major control freak, he wants to be in charge of EVERY THING at all costs. Get out now while you can, and for goodness sake, don't marry him or you WILL regret it. And get your money back, before he leaves and takes it all with him. Stop enabling him to use you as a doormat.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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Thanks for this input. I just feel so nervous about leaving him. I have tried to leave him before but I was not successful. I love being with him -- when times are good. But lately it's been so rough.

I just feel so torn by the way he is acting....he went out and bought me a beautfiul new purse the other day "just becasue" but i said we can't afford this... and he said that's why I need you to deposit your paycheck now.

You need to leave ASAP. This guy is a mentally unstable control freak. Take your paycheck find a place to stay don't look back.
 

blue_ladybug

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That part in red. Read it and re-read it. So basically he's spending YOUR money to buy YOU stuff. YOU are paying for whatever he buys. He's using you for one thing: money. If he truly loved you, he wouldn't take advantage of you. Kick his ascot to the curb, get your money and get your own place to stay. You gave up everything for him, and you are going to regret it big time. :/

Thanks for this input. I just feel so nervous about leaving him. I have tried to leave him before but I was not successful. I love being with him -- when times are good. But lately it's been so rough.

I just feel so torn by the way he is acting....he went out and bought me a beautfiul new purse the other day "just becasue" but i said we can't afford this... and he said that's why I need you to deposit your paycheck now.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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I have given him (by my estimate) 70k in the last 5 months. Of course, I spent some of that too -- but I know he has FAR more than I could ever spend. I can not get it back. He has paid off all his credit cards etc...

He knows I have a 4k tax refund coming in the mail. It hasn't arrived yet... and he keeps bugging the accountant. He said if he finds out that (since he gave me a lot of our deductions so I could get a refund on my business and he didn't) that I got the check and didn't tell him - he will file an ammendment from last year to make sure that I suffer and he gets HIS money back.
 

blue_ladybug

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Oh lord honey, how on earth did you get involved with this man? He obviously doesn't love you, if he's willing to make you suffer so that he can get YOUR money. :/ You need to move out ASAP, and do NOT give him your refund check!!! That money is YOURS regardless of what that money grubber bum says..


I have given him (by my estimate) 70k in the last 5 months. Of course, I spent some of that too -- but I know he has FAR more than I could ever spend. I can not get it back. He has paid off all his credit cards etc...

He knows I have a 4k tax refund coming in the mail. It hasn't arrived yet... and he keeps bugging the accountant. He said if he finds out that (since he gave me a lot of our deductions so I could get a refund on my business and he didn't) that I got the check and didn't tell him - he will file an ammendment from last year to make sure that I suffer and he gets HIS money back.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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Yeah, I know that he will hit the roof tonight (he already has once today) that my paycheck still isn't in the account. I haven't transferred it yet and I'm trying to figure out how I will get through tonight without him going ape shi*.

I have thought about transferring it and immediately cashing it out in the am and leaving him -- but that is a plan I have thoguht of before and I lose my courage and ... he just keeps the money and the cycle continues.

And he gets ticked if he even has to go to another bank to cash a check and says that he thinks I am on a mission "to make his life a complete nightmare"

I told him YESTERDAY that the check would be there today. I told him I did quickpay at the bank and it takes 24 hours. How do I get around this? I dont' think I can....without actually delivering the money.

If I say -- you know, I decided I"m going to keep my own money right now...he will freak out and I can promise the world...that he will be at his witts end trying to bully me into doing it.
 

blue_ladybug

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You need to get the conviction to make the break. The longer you wait, the worse it will be. I know if some bum tried taking MY 4 grand, I'd be on the warpath to make sure he didn't. Don't transfer the check, and don't cash it. Get away and go to a different bank to cash it. Otherwise he will see that you transferred it and get to it before you do.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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He's a good looking guy -- charasmatic -- I look at him and think -- God, I will miss him and his handsome face.. but internally he is just angry and mean.

How do I get the courage to do this? I don't know how I will possibly deal with the fall out tonight -- another night of fighting because he will say i failed him.
 

blue_ladybug

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He's a good looking guy -- charasmatic -- I look at him and think -- God, I will miss him and his handsome face.. but internally he is just angry and mean.

How do I get the courage to do this? I don't know how I will possibly deal with the fall out tonight -- another night of fighting because he will say i failed him.

Looks don't matter. It's how he treats you that matters. And he's treating you like his personal ATM. He's letting you pay HIS finances, while he gets more and more power hungry by the day.. You deserve better than this jack donkey.. stop being his doormat..
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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he has told me that I should do a better job of trusting him -- and letting him take control (he said - in a religious word..submitting) and understanding that he is in charge and to stop asking quesitons...

He makes it out that I am SO difficult and literally said "i think you are secretly on a mission to bankrupt me "
 

blue_ladybug

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Ok I see it's time to be a little harsh now.. He wants your money and ONLY your money. He doesn't want you, only your money. You are his cash cow, and you're enabling him to keep drawing milk (money) from you. He wants you to not question his authority, and be a meek little puppy that does what it's told or gets whipped. If anyone is on a mission to bankrupt someone, it's HIM trying to bankrupt YOU.

WHY in God's name are you allowing this to keep happening? You're gonna end up with nothing if you don't break off the engagement, move out and get away from this loser. If he's this bad NOW, he will be ALOT more controlling if you marry him. And you'd be a fool to want to marry someone that selfish, egotistical and controlling.


he has told me that I should do a better job of trusting him -- and letting him take control (he said - in a religious word..submitting) and understanding that he is in charge and to stop asking quesitons...

He makes it out that I am SO difficult and literally said "i think you are secretly on a mission to bankrupt me "
 
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This is really simple. He's a con man and a manipulator that is playing you like a fiddle. It doesn't matter how many times you say 'yeah but', he's still playing you.
He's even using tactics employed by abusers. And you are behaving like an abuse victim. Literally.
This guy does Not care about you, period. He found someone with money that is naive and easy to manipulate. Until you wake up and get tired of being his toy, nothing will change.
You need to see him for who he really is and stop idiolizing him as a good man. He's not a good man. He's a clever man.

I speak so direct because you are still arguing on his behalf. You are still unwilling or unable to face up to the kind of man he really is. You won't own that you have been used and manipulated.

Two things love is not.
Love is not controlling and manipulative.
Love is not letting someone take advantage of you.
The issue here isn't that you are too in love to leave him. The issue is you are too insecure to face the truth, take a stand and act.

I genuinely hope the light bulb comes on for you and soon and that will ditch this user. You seem to have a generous heart and to see it being used and wasted like this is sad.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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I get this. I know this. I'm in therapy and have heard this.

The bottom line is I still feel like leaving him will kill me -- as I will watch some hot young woman on his arm-- spoiled.

He used to spoil me when he had money (even though he still took my money even then).. But I know once he makes money again - he will go back to his lavish lifestyle and he would spoil me again... He treated me like i was his "queen" as he said .. at that time. However, if I get REAL - I will have to admit even then I was making 90k and he was giving me hell if I got my hair done more than once a month. And talked down to me...and tried to force me back into being the "woman he met". When I met him -- we were very much in love and I would do anyting to be with him. But, it wasn't long before he was saying mean things -- the type that would bring me to tears. But those times were infrequent -- but the red flags were there.

Now, he has no money and he is in desperation and wants to make me pay for it. I don't even know why I am rambling. I just know I will miss the man who was amazing to me (and sometimes still is)... I will be jealous of the woman who he finds who is perfect for him. But, truth is she is not me. I am a driven person (used to be) and I want to have a career and I want to have a life.. he wants to be around me 24/7. Meet all my friends (who I don't really have anymore) and meet my bosses -- always be with me.

His ex wife made nothing -- and she had an amazing lifestyle. But he was horrible to her too...for different reasons. JUST NOW - he's telling me stories.

Like, they had a fight and she wanted to go for a walk. She was gone for more than an hour. He let her go -- locked the door and went to bed. LOCKED HER OUT. She had to stay in a hotel. He said he had to "teach her a lesson" He said he would never do that to me...because he LOVES ME..he didn't love her
 
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Fenner

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He sounds like one of those creepy serial killers like Ted Bundy. Handsome, manipulating, get away from him.
 
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relatiosnhipdrama

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and the truth is -- this is just the current issue. He monitors my every move and he tells me his therapist (that he only went to twice when he suggested he would kill himself If I left him) ....says that I am the problem becuase I have been so protective of my emails and my privacy.

He told me yesterday that he bought my computer on his credit (even though my paycheck was the cash for it) and because of that it's in his name and he is tracking my every move on it. He says he gets a copy of everything i type..

Which is not true.... but i am still operating only on my phone with these types of posts -- for a reason.
 

blue_ladybug

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And the next woman will get treated the same way you are--like a doormat, like an all-night ATM.. Stand up for yourself, woman!! You say it would kill you to leave him. Well, if you stay and get into a fight with him, and he injures or kills you, then it really WOULD kill you to leave. Don't be a fool any more. I was that fool once, and it ended with him trying to strangle me. And he was just as controlling as this guy is.

Like Ugly said, stop making excuses for him. Stop trying to justify why you want to stay.. HIS financial woes are NOT YOUR problem..
 

blue_ladybug

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The more you tell us about this creep, the more insane this whole thing sounds. This guy has major issues, and he's a psychotic whacko.. And his quack therapist just sounds ignorant. I don't know what else to say.. You can either take our advice, and smarten up and leave, or get treated like crap and stay and put up with his theatrics..

and the truth is -- this is just the current issue. He monitors my every move and he tells me his therapist (that he only went to twice when he suggested he would kill himself If I left him) ....says that I am the problem becuase I have been so protective of my emails and my privacy.

He told me yesterday that he bought my computer on his credit (even though my paycheck was the cash for it) and because of that it's in his name and he is tracking my every move on it. He says he gets a copy of everything i type..

Which is not true.... but i am still operating only on my phone with these types of posts -- for a reason.