Justice

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Roughsoul1991

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What is justice?

Justice only holds value if you have the correct understanding of morality. If you do not believe that morality is universal, unchanging, and no man can dictate what is right or wrong then this blog may not be completely understood.

Is justice the same as social justice?

Is it Biblical?

Psalm 103:6
The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed.

God pays great attention to justice on Earth and in the eternal. But our culture doesn't quite understand the word justice.

Social justice- a concept that some use to describe the movement towards a socially just world. In this context, social justice is based on the concepts of human rights and equality and involves a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution. [1]

justitia, from justus, just. - 1. The virtue which consists in giving to everyone what is his due; practical conformity to the laws and to principles of rectitude in the dealings of men with each other; honesty; integrity in commerce or mutual intercourse. [2]

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Can you spot the difference?

Justice is the giving to everyone what is due where are social justice focuses on equality in all social areas in society. This is not justice. This is another definition of socialism.

2 Thess 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."

God will give everyone exactly what they deserve in judgment or rewards in Heaven.

The Pilgrims when they first landed set up a form of government under the Mayflower Compact. The Mayflower Compact inspired the Constitution as the Pilgrims were considered our founding father's founding fathers. As they began to establish their settlement, they adopted a social-economic system as evident in their writings. It failed miserably.

"Writing in his diary of the dire economic straits and self-destructive behavior that consumed his fellow Puritans shortly after their arrival, Governor William Bradford painted a picture of destitute settlers selling their clothes and bed coverings for food while others "became servants to the Indians," cutting wood and fetching water in exchange for "a capful of corn." The most desperate among them starved, with Bradford recounting how one settler, in gathering shellfish along the shore, "was so weak … he stuck fast in the mud and was found dead in the place."

The colony's leaders identified the source of their problem as a particularly vile form of what Bradford called "communism." Property in Plymouth Colony, he observed, was communally owned and cultivated. This system ("taking away of property and bringing [it] into a commonwealth") bred "confusion and discontent" and "retarded much employment that would have been to [the settlers'] benefit and comfort."

Brink of Extermination

The most able and fit young men in Plymouth thought it an "injustice" that they were paid the same as those "not able to do a quarter the other could." Women, meanwhile, viewed the communal chores they were required to perform for others as a form of "slavery."

On the brink of extermination, the Colony's leaders changed course and allotted a parcel of land to each settler, hoping the private ownership of farmland would encourage self-sufficiency and lead to the cultivation of more corn and other foodstuffs.

As Adam Smith would have predicted, this new system worked famously. "This had very good success," Bradford reported, "for it made all hands very industrious." In fact, "much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been" and productivity increased. "Women," for example, "went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn." [3]

So, in reality, the so-called equality of social justice is not just, if people do not deserve it. That is inequality. And the ramifications of that philosophy have dire consequences when understanding the history of human behavior.

It is this same play on words in the Equality Act that the US Democrats are trying to pass. If you read the whole law, you will see it does not promote equity but actually destroys the 1st Amendment and women's rights. Making the religious, right to conscience, freedom of speech, and oppresses biological women.

I simply just call everyone to pay attention and do not fall for such nonsense.

Justice involves both punishment and compensation. Foundationed on law and not opinion or emotion. A scale that works within innocent until proven guilty. According to facts and evidence will the scale tilt one way or the other in order for the sentence to be what is just and deserving.

By no means is it perfect, as no human system is. But this system has evolved for 1000s of years and constantly improving through reforms and laws. Only under a free democratic nation can it move in the right direction. Only in a Republic form of government can it have the checks and balances needed.

References:
[1]
https://www.gotquestions.org/social-justice.html

[2]https://av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/justice.html

[3]https://www.heritage.org/markets-and-finance/commentary/pilgrims-beat-communism-free-market
 
Sep 13, 2018
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#2
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What is justice?

Justice only holds value if you have the correct understanding of morality. If you do not believe that morality is universal, unchanging, and no man can dictate what is right or wrong then this blog may not be completely understood.

Is justice the same as social justice?

Is it Biblical?

Psalm 103:6
The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed.

God pays great attention to justice on Earth and in the eternal. But our culture doesn't quite understand the word justice.

Social justice- a concept that some use to describe the movement towards a socially just world. In this context, social justice is based on the concepts of human rights and equality and involves a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution. [1]

justitia, from justus, just. - 1. The virtue which consists in giving to everyone what is his due; practical conformity to the laws and to principles of rectitude in the dealings of men with each other; honesty; integrity in commerce or mutual intercourse. [2]

View attachment 218059

Can you spot the difference?

Justice is the giving to everyone what is due where are social justice focuses on equality in all social areas in society. This is not justice. This is another definition of socialism.

2 Thess 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."

God will give everyone exactly what they deserve in judgment or rewards in Heaven.

The Pilgrims when they first landed set up a form of government under the Mayflower Compact. The Mayflower Compact inspired the Constitution as the Pilgrims were considered our founding father's founding fathers. As they began to establish their settlement, they adopted a social-economic system as evident in their writings. It failed miserably.

"Writing in his diary of the dire economic straits and self-destructive behavior that consumed his fellow Puritans shortly after their arrival, Governor William Bradford painted a picture of destitute settlers selling their clothes and bed coverings for food while others "became servants to the Indians," cutting wood and fetching water in exchange for "a capful of corn." The most desperate among them starved, with Bradford recounting how one settler, in gathering shellfish along the shore, "was so weak … he stuck fast in the mud and was found dead in the place."

The colony's leaders identified the source of their problem as a particularly vile form of what Bradford called "communism." Property in Plymouth Colony, he observed, was communally owned and cultivated. This system ("taking away of property and bringing [it] into a commonwealth") bred "confusion and discontent" and "retarded much employment that would have been to [the settlers'] benefit and comfort."

Brink of Extermination

The most able and fit young men in Plymouth thought it an "injustice" that they were paid the same as those "not able to do a quarter the other could." Women, meanwhile, viewed the communal chores they were required to perform for others as a form of "slavery."

On the brink of extermination, the Colony's leaders changed course and allotted a parcel of land to each settler, hoping the private ownership of farmland would encourage self-sufficiency and lead to the cultivation of more corn and other foodstuffs.

As Adam Smith would have predicted, this new system worked famously. "This had very good success," Bradford reported, "for it made all hands very industrious." In fact, "much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been" and productivity increased. "Women," for example, "went willingly into the field, and took their little ones with them to set corn." [3]

So, in reality, the so-called equality of social justice is not just, if people do not deserve it. That is inequality. And the ramifications of that philosophy have dire consequences when understanding the history of human behavior.

It is this same play on words in the Equality Act that the US Democrats are trying to pass. If you read the whole law, you will see it does not promote equity but actually destroys the 1st Amendment and women's rights. Making the religious, right to conscience, freedom of speech, and oppresses biological women.

I simply just call everyone to pay attention and do not fall for such nonsense.

Justice involves both punishment and compensation. Foundationed on law and not opinion or emotion. A scale that works within innocent until proven guilty. According to facts and evidence will the scale tilt one way or the other in order for the sentence to be what is just and deserving.

By no means is it perfect, as no human system is. But this system has evolved for 1000s of years and constantly improving through reforms and laws. Only under a free democratic nation can it move in the right direction. Only in a Republic form of government can it have the checks and balances needed.

References:
[1]
https://www.gotquestions.org/social-justice.html

[2]https://av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/justice.html

[3]https://www.heritage.org/markets-and-finance/commentary/pilgrims-beat-communism-free-market
No it is not, That is why the Government separated State and religion a long time ago...
 

Prycejosh1987

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Jul 19, 2020
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Is justice the same as social justice?
There are different kinds of justices, there is social justice, moral justice, spiritual justice, etc. The bible is a guide for all the justices we can think of.