Losing battle

JustWhoIAm · Jan 30, 2017

It's later than many realize.

If your faith is true then there is plenty of reason for the world to hate you. It might not be you but the world conspiring to keep you down because of your faith.

Just suggesting something - I speak from experience. These are difficult times.

We call this 'persecution'.

Miri · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Its not working because you keep listening to the wrong voice in your head, you
are listening to Satan the manipulator, instead of the Holy Spirit. There is no
magic wand, you have to chose this day who you will listen to.

Will you continue to listen to lies or the truth. No one can make that decision for you, no one
can force you to think in a different way. Will you listen to the doctor who wants you to
be well, or the destroyer.

Sometimes we can surround ourselves with so much dispair, lies, negativity that it becomes
who we are. STOP doing that, DECIDE you will listen to the truth.

I don't know if you read the bible but try this, pick a favourite book of the bible, or
maybe Ephesians or Romans and a version you can understand. Read several
verses a day and use the P/P model.

Read and ask yourself is there anything in the reading to PRAISE God about.
Is there anything in the reading to PRAY about. Do this every day for a month,
take it like medicine, allow it to sweep over you and work from the inside out.

Here is a passage you could try to start off with.

Ephesians 3:14-21 NKJV
[14] For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
[15] from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
[16] that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to
be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man,
[17] that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being
rooted and grounded in love,
[18] may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length
and depth and height-
[19] to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may
be filled with all the fullness of God.
[20] Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that
we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
[21] to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever
and ever. Amen.

Fubar · Jan 30, 2017

Part of the problem is the wrong voices can be so much louder than the Holy Spirit. I do in fact find my self consciously telling myself to stop and think good thoughts and not bad ones. It's extremely difficult. I just can't seem to fight my way out of the despair and negativity. As far as "lies" go, what haunts me is the truth. Facts. Things I did or didn't do that have made me who I am.

presidente · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Get a Bible promises book or find a web page with positive promises from God. Memorize some scriptures and quote them when you feel this way. Jesus quoted scripture when the devil tempted Him.

Fubar · Jan 30, 2017

I don't understand. The devil didn't do this to me. I did. It was my ignorance and my bad decisions. I'm a problem solver. And usually I pretty good at it. Not with this though. I'm failing miserably. Unfortunately, it's not just my life at stake, but also those who rely on me. The more tired I grow, the weaker I become. The spiral downward keeps accelerating.

presidente · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Paul warned about fiery darts of the wicked one. He also wrote about his warfare, which involved casting down imaginations and every high thought that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. I believe demons can attack Christians by projecting throughts in their minds, which are like 'fiery darts.'

If you dwell on one of these thoughts, you can become hurt, depressed, etc. We are to deflect fiery darts with the shielf of faith, and we can grow in faith by meditating on the word of God. What I'm saying is if you start to have these thoughts, don't accept them and quote scripture instead. If you begin to think how awful you are, for example, you might quote scripture about how you are fearfully and wonderfully made.

popeye · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Ok,then break out the manual that has troubleshooting PROCEEDURES IN IT.

My situation ,about a year ago was dire,depressing,impossible,and,as you say 'spiraling downward".

What was the game changer? What broke me out? What got me the awesome victory I find myself in?

COMBINATION PUNCHES.

Any fighter WILL LOOSE with a one dimensional battle plan. All I had was a "jab". And that was a lazy ineffective jab.

What byoun gotta do,is go back,read my posts and get a real plan.

1) realize your huge problem does not have God wringing his hands. He can,and will turn your deal on a dime.
2) Get out of the "no devil bothering me here" mindset. ( it is he indeed kicking your rear all over nevada)
3) Get into intimat worship. When God shows up,everone gets something.
4) Go on ebay,get the new testament on DVD KJV read by alexander scorby,and turn all the racket off. (get your "christ mind " going.

5) make mat 18;18 your signature battle plan. Read it over and over until you say "oh,wait a minute,that really means what jesus said it means"

Ariel82 · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Some problems you have to let God solve. Take it to Him in prayer and let Him answer.

Sometimes he tells me I can't do anything but trust and hope. Other times he shows me something I never thought to do before.

God is awesome like that.

Ariel82 · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Facts that made you who you were. We die in Christ and are raised into a new life hidden in Him.

You past mistakes might have made who you were, but God and His love and truth will make you into who you can become and who you are now is beloved of God.

Ariel82 · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

If you broke your leg, how long would it take to heal?

A broken heart can take even longer. Especially when God tears down the lies and other spiritual strongholds we have surrounding our hearts and minds.

Have you ever had a splinter that didn't get taken out but festered and got infected?

Our past sins are like that splinter, God can remove it but the infection and gaping hole will take a while to heal.

Keeping you in prayer brother.

PeterJens · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Tell us one thing you are happy with or get pleasure from in your life at the moment.

Two things in your life you need to understand.
1. Your rational mind - which you control.
2. Your emotions which tell you where you are, - which are a messenger of what is working.

The two interact differently in everybody, and can get totally out of sync.
So you need to learn your own language, and what works for you.

Most people get to your state because of pain, unresolved ambitions or objectives,
and then continual passivity, because nothing is clear anymore than just do nothing.

You have all the levers, and the Lord to chart a way through, but you need to choose
which part to start on.

So which is it?

Depleted · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Because you expect pop-psychology on a Christian site to do the trick and in 3 days or less? (Page one gave you answers. The rest of this is just encouraging you or people thinking they can psychoanalyze you.)

popeye · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Victory is progressive. Kill a demon at a time. Work on one demon,decapitate it,and amazingly the others ,not only get the picture,but probably will flee in terror with you just looking at them.

Stop this no victory attitude.

Remember,you don't have victory because everything is going right. You have complete and decisive victory,BECAUSE HE SAID SO.
Get out of the circumstantial and enter the faith world. That realm demands you do not go by eyesight. Eyesight is in fact the enemy of faith.

Find verses,stand on them,and watch God work.

popeye · Jan 30, 2017

Ariel82 said:

Awesome.

Now your talking sis.

popeye · Jan 30, 2017

Fubar said:

Thank you all. Last night when I prayed and this morning when I prayed at Church, I prayed that I would "get it". I'm missing something. I don't know how I can read all these wise and caring messages and not figure this out. But I can't. I can't rest - I can't even get a decent nights sleep. I live in a small town and can't afford to leave, so I'm stuck with everyone knowing how much of a loser I am and treating me as such. I have no friends - except for you all here. I don't have much in the way of skills or talents. And this old dog isn't up to learning new tricks. I'm so used to who I am that I've grown numb to so much pain. It's not that I can't let go of the past as that it's the past is who I am now. And it sucks. Bad. I really hope that someday I can be writing a "success story" as many of you have here.

Dude,that is called "fear of man"

Specifically rebuke that.

Go to the throne and tell God "take this trash off me"

THEN,KNOW THAT HE DID!!! DON'T THINK IT,KNOW IT!!!!!!

popeye · Jan 30, 2017

This is one of many,many sermons. You got to address what is getting you.

[video=youtube;FKR-uA0nkuw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKR-uA0nkuw[/video]

Fubar · Jan 30, 2017

I really appreciate all the kind words I'm receiving here. I honestly didn't know what to expect here, but the responses have been tremendous. Knowing that other people actually care is amazing. I don't expect a one answer cure. I don't expect my problems solved in a day or two. For so long I haven't had a human soul to talk to. To vent to. To hear me. I've prayed and prayed. It took me years to finally start praying for a different outcome than the one I had been. Every time things get a little better, the next fall is twice as bad. I'm starting to resolve myself to that this is not going to change. Then I read the words here and feel hopeful. I'm not afraid of hard work to achieve desired results. In this case a little piece of mind and a brighter outlook on the future. I've just grown so tired.

Ariel82 · Jan 30, 2017

You work too hard. Learn to rest in Christ's finished work.

He saved you. he loves you.

Sometimes that is all I have and I realize, it's enough.

Fubar · Jan 30, 2017

For me, I think sometimes my trying to rest in Christ's work turns to complacency.

Fubar · Jan 30, 2017

I know he loves me. But I need to love me.

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