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Interesting article....well done.
 
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If it is good enough for Rupert Murdoch then it should be good enough for the rest of us!

Rupert Murdoch has one. So do financiers Vivi Nevo and Bruce Wasserstein. Why are the West's most powerful men coupling up with younger Asian women?
Call it the Woody Allen Effect. When the venerable director scandalously left Mia Farrow for her adopted daughter, South Korean-born Soon-Yi Previn — 35 years his junior — he may as well have sent out a press release: Asian-girl fantasy trumps that of Hollywood royalty!

Many of the elite now turn to companies like A Foreign Affair to help them find Asian Trophy Wives. Foreign Affair specializes in matching high power men with model like women form around the world. Foreign Affair boast that they have helped over 20,000 couples during the 18 years of business.

Not two years after they tied the knot, media baron Rupert Murdoch walked down the aisle with fresh-faced Wendi Deng — 17 days after finalizing his divorce from his second wife. Then, CBS head Leslie Moonves wed TV news anchor Julie Chen; Oscar winner Nicolas Cage married half-his-age third wife Alice Kim; billionaire George Soros coupled up with violinist Jennifer Chun; and producer Brian Grazer courted concert pianist Chau-Giang Thi Nguyen. Add the nuptials of investment magnate Bruce Wasserstein to fourth wife Angela Chao and the pending vows between venture capitalist Vivi Nevo and Chinese actress Ziyi Zhang, and we've got a curious cultural ripple.

Were these tycoons consciously courting Asian babes? Do any of them qualify for the unnerving "yellow fever" or "rice king" moniker? It's unsavory to think so. But after two or three failed attempts at domestic bliss with women of like background and age, these heavy hitters sought out something different. Something they had likely fetishized.

Enter the doll-faced Asian sylph on the arm of a silver-haired Western suit. (Hello, mail-order bride!) The excruciating colonial stereotypes — Asian women as submissive, domestic, hypersexual — are obviously nothing new. But decades after The World of Suzie Wong hit drive-ins and more than 20 years since David Bowie's "China Girl" topped the music charts, why are we still indulging them?

Because they're omnipresent — and often entertaining. Even now, how many cinematic greats, literary best sellers, or even cell-phone ads (see Motorola's latest) characterize Asian women as something other than geishas, ninjas, or dragon ladies? As the object of opening-line zingers like "Me love you long time" (the infamous line from Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket), I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at the cheeky blogstuffwhitepeoplelike.com, which ranks Asian girls at number 11 because "Asian women avoid key white women characteristics, such as having a midlife crisis, divorce, and hobbies that don't involve taking care of the children." Sure, I'm petite and was in fact born in Shanghai, but — to the shock of more than one guy I've gone out with — I'd rather down an icy beer and burger than nurse bubble tea and eat dumplings while massaging his back with my toes.

"This is a common experience among Asian-American women," says Bich Minh Nguyen, who broaches the stereotypes in her latest novel, Short Girls. "They're dating a white guy, and they may not know if it's a fetish thing."

"It's like a curse that Asian-American women can't avoid," says C.N. Le, director of Asian and Asian-American Studies at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. "From an academic point of view, the perception still serves as a motivation for white men."

According to Foreign Affair executives, "Our clients say they just can not find the values that they are looking for with beauty, these men have been looking their whole life here and have had no luck finding it. That is why they turn to us."

In researching his new book, The East, the West, and Sex, author Richard Bernstein found that the Orientalist illusion continues to influence. "Historically, Asia provided certain sexual opportunities that would be much more difficult for Western men to have at home. But it remains a happy hunting ground for them today," he says, citing one phenomenon in the northeastern region of Thailand called Issan, where 15 percent of marriages are between young Thai women and Western men well into their 60s.

But I suspect there's something else about the East that's seducing business bigwigs at this very moment: globalization. Consider that, stateside, Mandarin classes have spiked 200 percent over the past five years (apparently, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was an early adopter; he taught Mandarin classes in his Dartmouth days), and China has claimed status as the world's top export nation. In Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell theorizes that Asian kids' intrinsic work ethic makes them outsmart American kids in math. (In the latest Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development international education survey, Taiwanese students were tops in math, while the U.S. placed 35th.) It's as though these Western men are hungry for a piece of that mystical Eastern formula. As such, Asians (in addition to African orphans) are hot commodities right about now — status symbols as prized as a private Gulfstream jet or a museum wing bearing your name (neither of which goes so well with a frumpy, aging first wife).

Tellingly, most current trophies of choice are far more than exotic arm candy. They are accomplished musicians and journalists, they have Ivy League MBAs and hail from prestigious political families (Mrs. Wasserstein's older sis is former Labor Secretary Elaine Chao). Why, then, are these women falling for rich white patriarchs? Why be a target for headline comparisons to concubines? When Wendi Deng was described as "The Yellow Peril" in a recent magazine profile, it only marginalized her achievement: As chief strategist for MySpace China, she has become central to News Corp.'s expansion into the elusive Chinese market — something Murdoch himself had attempted, and failed to do, before she came into the picture.

While I'm sure that real love and affection is sometimes the bond in these culture-crossing May-December romances, could it be that power divorces of a certain ilk make the perfect renegade suitors for these overachieving Asian good girls — an ultimate (yet lame) attempt at rebellion? Maybe these outsized, world-class moguls are stand-ins for emotionally repressed Asian dads (one cliché that is predominantly true). Or...are these women just glorified opportunists? What's so perverse is that while Asians have always revered their elders, sleeping with a guy old enough to be your grandfather is just creepy — in any culture.

So do these marriages last? Kenneth Agee, marketing director of Foreign Affair say," these marriages have almost twice the success rate of domestic marriages, much less likely to end in divorce"
I am not sure where this post, thread or article is heading or your point.... It's a little bit disturbing..:p

Personally, it's none of my business who they marry, what race, culture or creed.
 
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I am not sure where this post, thread or article is heading or your point.... It's a little bit disturbing..:p

Personally, it's none of my business who they marry, what race, culture or creed.
Okay... maybe... it's my business on the creed but not the race or culture. :p
 
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it's an article alright, from 2009, found here, word-for-word copy/paste --

http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/advice/a3386/asian-trophy-wife/

next this guy will be selling us a mail-order bride.
i suggest, do not click on any links he posts, haha.

also spammed on reddit and a dozen e-dating websites, word-for word, all in the last week or so, except for the last paragraph

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So do these marriages last? Kenneth Agee, marketing director of Foreign Affair say," these marriages have almost twice the success rate of domestic marriages, much less likely to end in divorce"
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90dayfiance, you are creepy, in any culture.
 
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also spammed on reddit and a dozen e-dating websites, word-for word, all in the last week or so, except for the last paragraph

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So do these marriages last? Kenneth Agee, marketing director of Foreign Affair say," these marriages have almost twice the success rate of domestic marriages, much less likely to end in divorce"
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90dayfiance, you are creepy, in any culture.
Ya I thought that last line was interesting too......somebody got something for sale. Good eye Post
 

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I thought as much but figured I'd give em a chance to reveal it wasn't theirs. Lol Thanks Post
lol i think the only way to get him talking is to say something like

"WOW HOW INTERESTING PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW I CAN GET MY OWN ASIAN TROPHY WIFE WITH NO CREDIT CHECK"
 
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lol i think the only way to get him talking is to say something like

"WOW HOW INTERESTING PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW I CAN GET MY OWN ASIAN TROPHY WIFE WITH NO CREDIT CHECK"

Or......I'M SOOOO RONERY.
 

posthuman

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somebody got something for sale.
yeah to me this is screaming

you pay only shipping and processing fee! act now limited time offer!

and human trafikking.
 
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we're rolling back the prices to absolutely crazy value!

get yours before the psychiatrists shut us down!
Well I have a trophy wife already....haha.
 

posthuman

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Well I have a trophy wife already....haha.
aww ...

me too!

and we are a trophy wife, even chosen from a land of foreigners

“Hallelujah!
For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear.”
 
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aww ...

me too!

and we are a trophy wife, even chosen from a land of foreigners

“Hallelujah!
For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear.”
Double like!
 

posthuman

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Take the "high view"....I like it. :)
lol i was going to give him some reputation for reminding us how we who were strangers and aliens have been brought into the family of God, but it seems that earlier i reported him for human traficking, so i can't xD
 

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90dayfiance is a TV show about Americans using a 90-day visa to bring fiancés to the US to marry them. Usually, it is a man bringing a woman over from some other country.

I used to live in Indonesia, and I met my wife while I was there. There are advantages to marrying Asian women. I think I met one woman who identified as a 'Feminist' while I was there. She was educated in the west. Women there really value taking care of the home. I used to work in an office with a bunch of housewives and a few guys, and the women were always cooking and talking about cooking and taking care of things at home. Even though they had careers, it was a different vibe. The culture is family oriented. Virginity before marriage seemed to be the norm. Even jokes about sex were typically about married couples. It was generally accepted by the culture that wives were supposed to submit to their husbands. And there wasn't the PC sensitivity to gender issues (or racial issues) there that you sense in the west.

I was at a bus stop near a college campus a few years ago, and there was this college kid there, a girl about 18 years old or so. I asked her what time it is and said a few comments to strike up a conversation. She didn't want to talk, which was fine, but she had such an attitude. I wasn't trying to flirt with her or anything, just making conversation. But I've read that young men find that young women in the US nowadays have this unfriendly attitude when they try to start conversations. They get met with a scowl. I know what they are talking about, and maybe it was less of an issue when I was younger. I don't know. In Indonesia, if you strike up a conversation with a stranger, usually the strangers are warm and friendly. Some of the other Asian cultures are a bit more 'stiff' in some ways, but still people were generally friendly to me, including women when I was young and single.

When I was in Korea, some Korean women were open to dating foreign men. I dated one briefly. But the idea of marriage was controversial, and parents may or may not approve. I knew one expat who had eloped with a Korean woman whose parents later accepted him.

But in Indonesia, which has a lot of ethnicities and people of mixed local ethnicities, plus Dutch and Chinese mixed in, Caucasian expats are seen as desirable partners. It doesn't hurt that managers in Indonesia could earn a few dollars a month and low-paid expat English teachers could have higher salaries than them. Indonesians were colonized by the Dutch who used to be at the upper level of society in terms of power and economically. With the 'foreign mystique' a Caucasian man could go there and be considered more attractive than he is in his own country, and find women who are typically more conservative and more marriage-and-family focused than women in his own country.

I didn't analyze all this and try to find a wife abroad. I was overseas when I was during the years of my life when I was interested and looking for a wife, and God answered my prayers and gave me an excellent wife.
 

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it's an article alright, from 2009, found here, word-for-word copy/paste --

http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/advice/a3386/asian-trophy-wife/

next this guy will be selling us a mail-order bride.
i suggest, do not click on any links he posts, haha.

Maybe the poster is promoting the show by the same name. A Foreign Affair, mentioned in the article, is a company that takes men (usually old white guys) from the US and sends them over to Russia and other countries on tours to meet lots of Russian (or other ethnicity) women to date, marry, etc.

It's tacky to advertise stuff like this on a forum like this. But I don't think matchmaking, international dating sites, or trips to meet potential spouses should be illegal or considered 'human trafficking.' Tricking a woman to go to a foreign country and either getting her legally married or pretending to, and then having her work as a slave in a restaurant 80 hours a week or work as a prostitute... that should be illegal, and is. If the woman legally marries a man to get a greencard and lies and says he hit her or just leaves him after she has her greencard, that should be illegal as well. But the laws are set up where it is easy for a woman to do that in the US. If she claims abuse, she can get on the fast track for a greencard, or so I've read.

I notice, not on this forum, but elsewhere, that some people seem to think that if a couple doesn't date, fall in love, and get married the modern American way, that there marriage must be some kind of sham. But lots of cultures have used matchmakers or had their parents do matchmaking for thousands of years. Indians still do. If western men want to use some kind of matchmaker, that's up to them. I think that's kind of crazy if they hire someone who has no incentive to see that they get a good match. But I don't think it should be illegal or considered human trafficking.

There is a TV show now where so-called 'experts' match up two strangers and have them get married and ask them if they want to stay married or get a divorce after 5 weeks.