Please- need help and advice regarding my marriage

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CatC

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Hello. I'm new here. I was hoping to get other Christian's advice and thoughts on problems I'm having in my marriage. My husband and I have been married for 8 years- we've been together for 12.
We have 2 daughters together ages 4 & 7 .
I am also 6 months pregnant with our son. I am a Christian but my husband is not- altho God had been answering my prayers and working on his heart . ie. he attends church, listens to christian music ( he had not done things like this before). I had met him when I was not following Jesus ( carnal) but I did ask The Lord to let me know if I should marry him and felt that God did. However we had our share of marital problems including misunderstanding, Miscommunication & not enough intimacy.
The worst of it we were more roommates than husband and wife.
We both said we wanted to try more intimacy but we were always so busy and things came up, excuses so neither of us were as intimate as either of us wanted to be. We had talked about carving out the time etc but things always seemed to come up. We both still love eachother. I had a really bad feeling something was wrong recently and had found out found that he had been having an online emotional relationship with a female for about 4 months. Before confronting him I prayed to God for help and His peace. No tears when I confronted him about it. He did not denied doing it. He said he was lonely, bored and we werent intimate enough. He also felt I had been rejecting any of his advances and recoiling from his touch (I didn't know that I did this) and was making excuses for not being intimate. he told me the online chatting was an escape from reality.
He also never apologized at first and thought that he did nothing wrong because he said that he never had any physical contact with her and never planned on meeting her (she lives in another country) or anyone else online. Their chats ended in sept 2013 and no communication since then.

I asked him to put himself to reverse the roles and if i was cheating online with another man doing what he did- would he still think that it's ok? He said no and realized that he was wrong.
Nonetheless. I was so devastated - angry, upset, filled with doubt & mistrust- total basket case. I kept thinking what else is he not telling me , what other secrets and lies were there? Especially since he expressed no remorse about it. He then said he was sorry and wanted to do anything and everything to make our marriage work. He said he would give me all access to emails, online accounts, his phone, etc. that he has nothing to hide and would take a lie detector test. Take STD tests to show he was disease free. That he would stop chatting online. Go to marriage counseling- whatever it takes.
I wanted to believe him but honestly didnt know what to believe. The trust was gone.
I told him if I can't trust him that I can't be with him and i didnt want to think about divorce but i would if i had to. He said he would consider commit suicide if I divorced him and he loved me more than life itself.

I had been constantly praying to God for help, guidance and reading scripture and verses on marriage and forgiveness. I know I must forgive him for what he did. I asked God to show me how to forgive him . To see His grace and mercy. And He did show me and I started to forgive him. I started feeling a great compassion and love for him- and i know it was due to God&the Holy Spirit, not of my own will. I acknowledged that altho what he did was wrong, my miscommunication and "rejection" of him made it worse.

Against my own initial misgivings, we became intimate again after reading in 1 Corinthians 7. & Ephesians.,submit to my husband and don't deny your spouse .. etc and felt that God was showing me that my husband was just so lost , lonely , sad and needs Jesus so badly. I wanted to show him I could love him despite the pain and sadness and mistrust i felt and hope it will bring him to The Lord. And I told him this .
We also spent alot of time just talking and being together- it was like we were dating again.

Then again we hit another snag. I had also found out that he told the online girl ( who knew he was married with 2 kids) that we were pregnant and that he was unhappy and didnt want the baby. That ours was in a Sexless marriage and he didnt remember impregnating me since we didnt have sex that often. He told me he was unhappy because he thought I had cheated on him and that the baby was not his - and that's why I was rejecting his advances since I was getting it somewhere else . I told him that I am a Christian woman following Jesus and never have and never will commit adultery( my dad had a few affairs while with my mom but she stayed married for her kids sake- it devastated her. Also when we got married i was still a virgin and have never been with anyone else but him and saw no need to stray). He said that he was considering getting a DNA test. I told him I completely have nothing to hide. He never did. I think that it's satan doing a number on him and us :(. I don't think he truly believes it- I think it was said in anger.

We both want to move past this and make our marriage work. But I keep having trust issues - which i told him i would for a while. I want to believe but am guarded.
I feel like I was truly making an effort even tho im still upset but to me he seems to show true remorse. I asked him if i didnt find out about his cheating would he have told me? he said he didnt know. Im concerned that ive been foolish to be intimate with him again so quickly.i just felt so bad and I love him. I panic every time i see him on the computer or phone for extended periods of time. I told him we have to set ground rules- no phone or internet at home after dinner unless emergency and only for short periods of time. At first he seemed really upset to give it up the internet but then he said he was willing to do this but seems to be having a harder time complying ( he loves Facebook and playing games)
We plan on going to marriage counseling.
I continuously am asking for God's wisdom and help but am so confused. Please help!
Thank you so much in advance.
 
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CatC

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Addendum: I meant to say that im afraid that my husband does not show true remorse and he will 'cheat online' again if we aren't intimate enough. That's my worst fear.
 

adsd

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my heart goes out to you. I will keep you in prayer. I remember all to well that feeling of desperation. the fear. but if you are choosing to work on it you will have to every time your fear comes get on your knees give it to Jesus. stay in prayer and let God guide you. after 12 years and 5 kids I left mine. but every situation is different. mine Jesus opened a door and God guided me out. you will come to a point where you are willing to let God guide you. understand one of his mistakes could ruin your life. on line or in person a relationship is not okay. God see's all you are not alone. if you need to talk feel free to message me.
 

pickles

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When it comes to trust, Jesus said I trust no man.
I say this as one who went through difficulties as well, and yes, God is faithful and has brought amazing healing to our marriage. :)
You see, your trust cannot be in your husband, simply because he will still fail.
You need to put your trust in God first, for your husband, what you do, your marraige.
When your trust is first in God, the rest is in His hands, and God does not fail us, even if things do go baddly. :)
Put your trust n God for everything, and He will show you and bring you all you and your husband need.

You , your husband and family are in my prayers in Jesus.
Huge hugs and God bless :)
pickles
 

Jette

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I completely agree with what pickles has said here. CatC, I am so very sorry to hear you're going through marital issues, but you know that the goal of satan is to steal, kill and destroy. So basically he wants to steal your husband, kill you and destroy your marriage. You cannot let him do this. you must arm yourself with the word of God, standing on his word and promises and reclaim your territory in the Lord. God can do exceedingly, abundantly above all we can ask or think, but right now you need to take your focus off of your husband, everything he has done, will do, etc. and put your focus on Christ and your relationship with God. It's not easy in any way, shape or form, and there are resources out there that can help you in your journey to restoration, because that's what this appears to be. I do have some resources that perhaps will give you the type of information that you need to get through these troubling times. Be encouraged and I will be praying for you and your family.

If this goes through, check out Welcome to Encouraging Women and if you think that it doesn't apply to you, look further. There is healing that needs to happen and only our Lord Jesus Christ can do that for us. God bless!
 

presidente

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I'm sorry to hear about your problems with your husband. If he's an unbeliever, he may not see anything wrong with what he did. Christians have the Bible, which has a lot to say about not coveting, etc. The Bible says not to defraud one another in your marriage. One problem is if we do that, then the other person can be tempted. I don't think you should leave him for sending emails like that. And if you are going to be married to him you have to sleep with him. He didn't sign up just to have a room mate. I realize you are pregnant, and he should, too, which can make the whole intimacy issue a lot more complicated. I am sorry for the hurtful words he said about your pregnancy. As an unbeliever, maybe he can't understand how deeply rooted your faith and your commitment to stay faithful is. Maybe you can remind him of a time you were intimate. When you heal up after childbirth, or even now, you can make sure that you are intimate with him more often. Ask him how often he would like, and then do what you can to meet his needs. For men, the physical intimacy can help with the other types of intimacy. If a man feels rejected, it can be hard to connect emotionally, and men sometimes feel connected to their wives through sex. Women sometimes don't want to have sex unless they feel that connection. If one or the other gets out of whack, it can start a cycle where emotional and physical intimacy die down. If you see that, you can break the cycle by having more physical intimacy. If he catches on, he could add more emotional intimacy. It's a lot more complicated than that, of course. But that's one way to deal with the situation.
 
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brokenclay

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pickles

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CatC, just wanted to check in on you and see how you are doing. :)
Im sure being pregnant brings alot more concern and worry to you and I just want you to know you are not alone in this.
I know my advise might seem like what is always said, I felt the same as I couldnt see past my pain then.
But in Jesus, there is trull power, streangth , wisdom and love in what I shared with you.
Even if its not easy to see yet. :)
When I was young, alot of what was spoken to in scripture and advised seemed canned to me, but that was only because I was looking only at the words and thinking how does this help me.
But, I came to see that one has to have in Jesus, the faith and trust in God and His words to bring understanding and His healing.
I see you have done this, so suggesting you need more may seem judgemental.
But the truth is ? Faith like Gods love is infinite, the more one has the greater the peace and understanding, eventually bringing one to see its no longer about mesure, but like eternal life, perfected.
Anyway, just wanted to check in on you and let you know if you need, Im here.
Just pm me.


In Jesus
Huge hugs and God bless
pickles
 
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CatC

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Hello. I wanted to thank everyone for responding to me. Thank you for your encouragement , help and advice.
I know now very clearly that altho I didn't mean to deny my husband his sexual needs I did, which attributed to his "online sex chats, etc.

I didnt mention this in the earlier post, but I also found out he had a ashleymadison acct (encourages affairs) , adult friend finder , went on craigslist - casual encounters, porn, literotica ( sex stories). He said it was all for sexual stimulation of the mind and fantasy more than physical. and he didnt want to get STD's, cyber stalked etc. . i had also found an email written only a few days ago ( before i confronted him) which was an add that he was seeking bored married women looking to discreet meetings and becoming a 2nd wife....
So it wasn't just the online relationship with that girl. I was terrified that he hooked up with these random women . he told me that yes he had intimate sexual chats with some of them but it never went further than that. He told me he never had sex with anyone he met but he had opportunities to cheat. He did voluntarily show me some things. He said he deleted the ashley Madison acct. etc. and will give me all access to these things. He said the Internet was a huge part of his life starting from when he was a teenager- way before I met him. But he was willing to minimize his use and show me everything

I've decided to forgiven him for what he did but need to work on rebuilding trust that was lost. He promised me all further online communication is stopped and that if our sex life improved he would have no need for online relationships.

We decided to move ahead in our marriage and not linger in the past. We are restoring our intimacy again. I am praying daily to God for guidance and help and when I start to have doubts or worry to i have been giving it to Jesus. God has shown me alot. About compassion. Love. I found some great websites on forgiveness, Rebuilding trust. Also a marriage counselor at local church.
Thank you all. Will keep you posted.
 
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akrick

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I am so glad you have chosen to forgive him.

Moving forward as you are doing should include good christian marriage counseling and also very important is an accountability partner for your husband. It will help him earn your trust again... and that will take some time.

God bless both of you and I pray that everything works out for the glory of our Lord.

Rick
 
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msgomez1000

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Hello. I wanted to thank everyone for responding to me. Thank you for your encouragement , help and advice.
I know now very clearly that altho I didn't mean to deny my husband his sexual needs I did, which attributed to his "online sex chats, etc.

I didnt mention this in the earlier post, but I also found out he had a ashleymadison acct (encourages affairs) , adult friend finder , went on craigslist - casual encounters, porn, literotica ( sex stories). He said it was all for sexual stimulation of the mind and fantasy more than physical. and he didnt want to get STD's, cyber stalked etc. . i had also found an email written only a few days ago ( before i confronted him) which was an add that he was seeking bored married women looking to discreet meetings and becoming a 2nd wife....
So it wasn't just the online relationship with that girl. I was terrified that he hooked up with these random women . he told me that yes he had intimate sexual chats with some of them but it never went further than that. He told me he never had sex with anyone he met but he had opportunities to cheat. He did voluntarily show me some things. He said he deleted the ashley Madison acct. etc. and will give me all access to these things. He said the Internet was a huge part of his life starting from when he was a teenager- way before I met him. But he was willing to minimize his use and show me everything

I've decided to forgiven him for what he did but need to work on rebuilding trust that was lost. He promised me all further online communication is stopped and that if our sex life improved he would have no need for online relationships.

We decided to move ahead in our marriage and not linger in the past. We are restoring our intimacy again. I am praying daily to God for guidance and help and when I start to have doubts or worry to i have been giving it to Jesus. God has shown me alot. About compassion. Love. I found some great websites on forgiveness, Rebuilding trust. Also a marriage counselor at local church.
Thank you all. Will keep you posted.
I think god is showing you an EXIT plan. Not all marriages are put together by god.
I dont want to be mean or harsh but you need a divorce that is adultery.
 
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brokenclay

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We are told not to be judgemental. Wouldn't you want to be forgiven and given the chance to repent and be restored. She is doing the right thing to show mercy. She loves her husband. God will bless her for that. Are you a Christian?
 
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msgomez1000

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Yes, not trying to judge her at all but people post here want answers not just what sounds best. but I think god would not want to see his followers live in sadness like her having to be afraid he will cheat again.
but this man sounds addicted, men like this do not just quit this behavior.
He will just learn another way to go about it and whatever happened to talking about a sex issue with your wife instead of RUNNING off to ASHLEY MADISON.COM You can forgive and be blessed with someone who actually respects her. I'm sorry do not believe for a second he was on craigslist just to talk. Men go there to hook up and meet up. This woman blames herself for his betrayal which is not good. Once again good luck to her.
 

Angela53510

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Hello. I wanted to thank everyone for responding to me. Thank you for your encouragement , help and advice.
I know now very clearly that altho I didn't mean to deny my husband his sexual needs I did, which attributed to his "online sex chats, etc.

I didnt mention this in the earlier post, but I also found out he had a ashleymadison acct (encourages affairs) , adult friend finder , went on craigslist - casual encounters, porn, literotica ( sex stories). He said it was all for sexual stimulation of the mind and fantasy more than physical. and he didnt want to get STD's, cyber stalked etc. . i had also found an email written only a few days ago ( before i confronted him) which was an add that he was seeking bored married women looking to discreet meetings and becoming a 2nd wife....
So it wasn't just the online relationship with that girl. I was terrified that he hooked up with these random women . he told me that yes he had intimate sexual chats with some of them but it never went further than that. He told me he never had sex with anyone he met but he had opportunities to cheat. He did voluntarily show me some things. He said he deleted the ashley Madison acct. etc. and will give me all access to these things. He said the Internet was a huge part of his life starting from when he was a teenager- way before I met him. But he was willing to minimize his use and show me everything

I've decided to forgiven him for what he did but need to work on rebuilding trust that was lost. He promised me all further online communication is stopped and that if our sex life improved he would have no need for online relationships.

We decided to move ahead in our marriage and not linger in the past. We are restoring our intimacy again. I am praying daily to God for guidance and help and when I start to have doubts or worry to i have been giving it to Jesus. God has shown me alot. About compassion. Love. I found some great websites on forgiveness, Rebuilding trust. Also a marriage counselor at local church.
Thank you all. Will keep you posted.
Your husband has an addiction to pornography, and it will not go away on its own. Not even if you had sex with him 3 times a day. It is a serious addiction, and he will need help, counseling and accountability or it will happen again. As it has in the past.

I am glad you are trying to move past this, but adultery is not something you move past just by saying you forgive him. Even once, perhaps, but he has a consistent and persistent pattern of mental and physical adultery.

Please get help for yourself and consider leaving this marriage, if he does not get help.

Here are some stats:

Statistics on Sexual Addiction | About | Prodigals International

Please read the link there on women.

"women learn that they did not cause husband's behavior"

How Pornography Affects Wives | IntegrityRestored.com

I guarantee this will continue if he does not get help. There are whole organizations, Christians and secular that deal with porn addiction. He may literally need to go into rehab from this addiction. And if he will not even admit that porn is adultery, then you have another HUGE problem.

"Many married men try to deny that viewing pornography is adultery by claiming they are not having a “real affair.” They are just “viewing images on a computer screen.” This is a weak attempt to justify pornography use. The fact is that whether she is a real person, or an image on a screen, sharing your sexuality with someone other than your wife is adultery."

How Pornography Affects Wives | IntegrityRestored.com

And some other links:
Choosing a Top Inpatient Porn Addiction Recovery Center

Pornography and Sex Addiction Recovery Resources | StrengtheningMarriage.com

I had no idea this was a problem, until we spent a whole unit on it in Seminary, in pastoral ministries. Do you know why? Because so many pastors are addicted to porn. They warned us of the danger, and gave us links in case we were addicted. Then one of our classmates confessed he was addicted to porn, and how it damaged his marriage, and his relationship with God. I couldn't have been more shocked!

Anyway, I am not saying this to discourage you from trying to restore your marriage, but because you have clearly stated that this is an ongoing issue, and I don't want to see you get hurt over and over, think it is your fault, especially when you are pregnant. Get help immediately, or the reconciliation of your marriage is going to be over sooner than you could imagine.