Racism hasn't stopped.. Grudges, hatred, and pride, still exist in people..

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Dino246

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Racism is just as much a fruit of the flesh as what is listed in Galatians. How to deal with it? Submit to Christ, seek to grow in His love, bring to Him the things which trouble you about yourself and others. Seek His input on these things. Be gracious to others who differ in view or practice.

Blessings,
Dino
 
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CarolSampaio

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secularhermit said:
Well, if I was racist and someone called me stupid, I wouldn´t feel stupid, then.

"Contradicting yourself?

"Our differences should be a matter to rejoice and wonder, not to segregate... :("
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Wow... your argument is so flawed it's just sad...

We are talking about a crime and you want to set it as one of the different things God made?

Hate is the lack of love, therefore the lack of God... God ORDERED us to love one another... it's a comandment! and if you cannot understand that, well, you should review your grounds as a christian...
 
Angela53510

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I grew up in a home where my dad played pro football. We had people from all races and socio-economic backgrounds in our home. I thought that was normal.

Really, we are all descended from Adam and Eve. God in his infinite wisdom planted the genes for all the races in that first couple. And genetically, no one is pure. Even the Native Americans on the east coast have European blood in them, and the Native Americans on the west coast have Chinese blood in them. Because there was more travel across the oceans before Columbus and the Vikings than was thought before! This diversity is true of every culture and ethnicity.

I guess as Christians, we do need to be involved in fighting racism. Martin Luther King Jr. did amazing things to help the blacks in the 60's although he paid for it with his life.
 
Willie-T

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CarolSampaio said:
Wow... your argument is so flawed it's just sad...

We are talking about a crime and you want to set it as one of the different things God made?

Hate is the lack of love, therefore the lack of God... God ORDERED us to love one another... it's a comandment! and if you cannot understand that, well, you should review your grounds as a christian...
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What "crime?" You're saying it's a crime to "feel" or "think?"

It is NOT a crime to even be as prejudiced as the head of the KKK or the leader of the Black Panthers.
 
Willie-T

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CarolSampaio said:
Wow... your argument is so flawed it's just sad...

We are talking about a crime and you want to set it as one of the different things God made?

Hate is the lack of love, therefore the lack of God... God ORDERED us to love one another... it's a comandment! and if you cannot understand that, well, you should review your grounds as a christian...
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And how absolutely ridiculous it is to think you can love because you are ordered to.
 
secularhermit

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Diana! Please...

Could you help ME understand what this means:

"[h=2]Re: Racism hasn't stopped.. Grudges, hatred, and pride, still exist in people..[/h]"
 
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CarolSampaio

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Willie-T said:
What "crime?" You're saying it's a crime to "feel" or "think?"

It is NOT a crime to even be as prejudiced as the head of the KKK or the leader of the Black Panthers.
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If you are a christian, it is... it is a sin.

Matthew 15

18*But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart,*and these defile them.*19*For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.20*These are what defile a person;*but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
 
Willie-T

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CarolSampaio said:
If you are a christian, it is... it is a sin.

Matthew 15

18*But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart,*and these defile them.*19*For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.20*These are what defile a person;*but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
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Brother, are you mixed-up.
 
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Mitspa

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Willie-T said:
And how absolutely ridiculous it is to think you can love because you are ordered to.
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Willie you know the Lord commands us to love as He has loved us...its based on us understanding His love for us..then we love others. I think you just like to argue at times :)
 
Willie-T

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Mitspa said:
Willie you know the Lord commands us to love as He has loved us...its based on us understanding His love for us..then we love others. I think you just like to argue at times :)
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I never questioned what Jesus told us we are to learn to have a heart to do. I said, quite emphatically, that you cannot love someone because you are ordered to.

Try telling your wife you only married her because you were ordered to.

And, yes, I do love to challenge the stupid things we sometimes say because we think we are somehow being Spiritual by doing so.
 
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Mitspa

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Willie-T said:
I never questioned what Jesus told us we are to learn to have a heart to do. I said, quite emphatically, that you cannot love someone because you are ordered to.

Try telling your wife you only married her because you were ordered to.

And, yes, I do love to challenge the stupid things we sometimes say because we think we are somehow being Spiritual by doing so.
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Ill try that if I ever get married :)
 
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dianalaneph said:
How do you teach, correct, encourage your kids, husbands, wife, family, friend, brothers, sisters to get out of this system? Do you have a verse that can inspires us? please do share..
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I think stopping racism will happen shortly before chronic world peace. I don't think either one happens until Judgement Day.

That said I was simply raised not to buy into it to begin with. But that backfired too. One of my friends turned on me for absolutely no reason in fifth grade. (Later on, I figured out the reason. There was a huge population shift in the 1960's and she was being trained to be racist by an influx of people.) She'd grab my arm, yank on it repeatedly, and shout that I was hitting her. When teachers heard, they'd come running and she'd run away. Since nothing was happening by the time the teachers got to me, there was nothing to say or do.

When nothing came of it, she'd punch me in the back while running by. She was a friend, so it wasn't like I was going to punch her back. But I didn't know what to do and I was hurt, so I went home crying and asked my mother what to do.

Mom, soft-spoken, quiet woman that she was, (not even lol), told me to punch her in the nose the next time she did it.

I've been punched in the nose. It hurts. Even if you don't cry, it brings tears to your eyes, so I couldn't bring myself to punch her all that hard. But the next time we were lined up at the door ready to be dismissed she started up again, so I back-handed her nose with about as much force as finger-flick, (the type of thing my grandmother would do to me with a thimble on her finger. Can't think of the word. lol) I got caught. I told the teacher, "But my mother told me to do that."

Mom got sent to the Principal's office instead of me. Only then did I find out it suddenly mattered that my friend was black. It never came up in our conversations. There was no reason to bring it up. Mom was helping with a new school program for our small town. The program is still called Head-Start. She was kicked off the group working on that program because suddenly she was a racist.

So, frankly, I learned even the term racist tends to be racist. If I ever had kids, I would have taught them some groups are more equal than others. That's not a comment against blacks. That's a comment about most groups that throw out the racist card for no reason other than they want specialer rights. Just the people in those groups who enforce that one. (The homosexuals seem to have specialer rights now in the USA. Again, not all of them. I'd like to think most people in any given group don't go out of their way to think they're specialer.)
 
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Isn't it strange how we are conditioned to categorize people a certain way? I guess we all have certain perceptions that are so ingrained in us that we don't even realize it most times. My children were raised in the inner city where the schools had kids from every race under the sun. My kids' friends were all different nationalities and our family itself is like the U.N. - we got all kinds of multi-cultural marriages going on. :)
 
Magenta

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secularhermit said:
You said it, sir, instead.

Mat 5:22 but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.
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1 John 4:2
Those who say, “I love God," and hate their brothers or sisters, are lairs; for those who do not love a brother or sister whom they have seen, cannot love God whom they have not seen.

 
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I'm a

 
Gozinia

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'Sup ma Cracka ! *High fives Ageofknowledge
 
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I guess the best question would be what do you think of Moses. Hopefully they'll say good things. Then ask them to read Numbers 12. Ask what they think of Moses again. Then ask what God thought of Moses compared to his siblings. If they don't know about Cush, explain that he was a child of Ham who's people went to Africa. Cush's people settled in Sudan area. You could even go into where Cush had been cursed. Here's Moses with a black woman from a tribe of a man who was cursed by God, yet when Aaron and Miriam talk about him they get the lepersy and Moses gets praised. Then go into how God judges the heart and man is who judges the outer appearance.

But honestly, you can't encourage anyone to not be racist. It's a choice. Unfortunately many choose to remain ignorant.
 
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